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MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS
Meeting No. 36
Thursday, November 22, 2001
The Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs met at 11:10 a.m. this day, in Room 112-N, Centre Block, the Chair, Peter Adams, presiding.
Members of the Committee present: Peter Adams, Pierre Brien, Marlene Catterall, Cheryl Gallant, Richard Harris, Jay Hill, Joe Jordan, Paul Macklin, Carolyn Parrish, Geoff Regan, John Reynolds, John Richardson, Jacques Saada and Tony Tirabassi.
In attendance: From the Library of Parliament: James Robertson, research officer.
Witnesses: From the Privy Council Office: Richard B. Fadden, Deputy Clerk, Counsel and Security and Intelligence Coordinator; Oonagh Fitzgerald, Assistant Secretary to the Cabinet, Legislation and House planning/Counsel; Valerie de Montigny, Senior Analyst, Office of the Assistant Secretary to the Cabinet, Communications and Consultation.
Question of privilege raised on October 15, 2001 by the Member of West Vancouver--Sunshine Coast regarding the matter of the media receiving information on the contents of Bill C-36, An Act to amend the Criminal Code, the Official Secrets Act, the Canada Evidence Act, the Proceeds of Crime (Money Laundering) Act and other Acts, and to enact measures respecting the registration of charities in order to combat terrorism, before Members of Parliament.
John Reynolds moved -- That the Committee ask for the draft report prepared by Deloitte & Touche.
After debate, the question being put on the motion, it was negatived.
Richard Harris moved -- That Deloitte & Touche be invited to appear before the Committee.
After debate, the question being put on the motion, it was negatived.
Richard Harris moved -- That this committee ask Mr. Fadden to receive from members of this committee questions arising from the Deloitte & Touche report and that he would further direct those questions to Deloitte & Touche for response and ensure that such responses be delivered back to the members submitting them.
After debate, the question being put on the motion, it was negatived.
Paul Macklin moved - That the Committee report to the House with respect to this matter that this committee has not found a contempt.
Debate arose.
Richard Harris moved -- That the main motion be amended by adding, after the word “that”, the following : “subject to outstanding questions arising out of the Deloitte & Touche report, being answered by Deloitte Touche, either in written or verbal form”.
After debate, the question being put on the amendment , it was negatived.
The question being put on the main motion, it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
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YEAS: Marlene Catterall Joe Jordan Paul Macklin Carolyn Parrish Geoff Regan John Richardson Jacques Saada Tony Tirabassi (8) |
NAYS: Pierre Brien Cheryl Gallant Richard Harris Jay Hill John Reynolds (5) |
Richard Harris moved -- That this committee direct Mr. Fadden to receive from members of this committee questions arising from the Deloitte & Touche report and that he would further direct those questions to Deloitte & Touche for response and ensure that such responses be delivered back to the members submitting them.
The question being put on the motion, it was negatived on the following recorded division:
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YEAS: Marlene Catterall Joe Jordan Paul Macklin Carolyn Parrish Geoff Regan John Richardson Jacques Saada Tony Tirabassi (8) |
NAYS: Cheryl Gallant Richard Harris Jay Hill John Reynolds (4) |
At 12:25 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 12:27 p.m., the sitting resumed in camera.
At 12:35 p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
Patrice Martin
Clerk of the Committee