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MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS
Meeting No. 18

TUESDAY, DECEMBER 9, 1997

The Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development met at 3:43 o’clock p.m., this day, in room 701 La Promenade Building, the Chair, Guy Saint-Julien, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: John Bryden, John Finlay, Ghislain Fournier, David Iftody, Nancy Karetak-Lindell, Gerald Keddy, Derrek Konrad, Judi Longfield, Bernard Patry, Guy Saint-Julien and Bryon Wilfert.

Acting Members present: Jocelyne Girard-Bujold for Claude Bachand and Carolyn Bennett for Lawrence O'Brien.

In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Mary C. Hurley and Jill Wherrett, Research Officers. From the Committees and Legislative Services Directorate: Charles Bellemare, Legislative Clerk.

Witnesses: From the Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development: Will Dunlop, Director, Resource Policy Directorate, Northern Affairs Program; Peter Haley, A/Chief, Resource Strategies, Northern Affairs Program; Jacques Denault, Policy Specialist, Northern Affairs Program; Suzanne Grenier, Legal Counsel; Margaret Gray, Policy Advisor.

 

The Committee resumed consideration of Bill C-6, An Act to provide for an integrated system of land and water management in the Mackenzie Valley, to establish certain boards for that purpose and to make consequential amendments to other Acts. (See Minutes of Proceedings dated Tuesday, November 18, 1997, Meeting No.6)

The Committee resumed clause by clause consideration of the Bill.

 

By unanimous consent, it was agreed, -- That the Committee proceed to consider, in order, all clauses to which amendments had not been proposed.

 

Clauses 43 to 76 carried.

 

Clauses 79 to 111 carried.

 

Clauses 113 to 114 carried.

 

Clauses 116 to 124 carried.

 

Clause 126 carried.

 

Clauses 128 to 133 carried.

 

Clauses 135 to 146 carried.

 

Clauses 148 to 150 carried.

 

Clauses153 to 154 carried.

 

Clause 156 carried.

 

Clause 158 carried.

 

Clauses 160 to 168 carried.

 

The Committee reverted to the consideration of Clause 42.

 

By unanimous consent, the amendment of Gerald Keddy, -- That Bill C-6, in Clause 42, be amended by replacing line 19 on page 14 with the following:

 

"settlement area and in other communities in the Mackenzie Valley a notice inviting interested"

 

was withdrawn.

 

Gerald Keddy moved, -- That Bill C-6, in Clause 42, be amended by replacing line 19 on page 14 with the following:

 

"settlement area and in adjoining settlement areas in the Mackenzie Valley a notice inviting interested"

 

After debate, the question being put on the amendment, it was agreed to.

 

Gerald Keddy moved, -- That Bill C-6, in Clause 42, be amended by replacing line 25 on page 14 with the following:

 

"after publishing in the settlement area and in adjoining settlement areas in the Mackenzie Valley a notice"

 

After debate, the question being put on the amendment, it was agreed to.

 

Clause 42, as amended, carried.

 

On Clause 77

 

Bernard Patry moved, -- That Bill C-6, in Clause 77, be amended by replacing line 6 on page 25 with the following:

 

"any substantial alteration to the quality, quantity or rate"

 

After debate, the question being put on the amendment, it was agreed to on division.

 

Clause 77, as amended, carried on division.

 

On Clause 78

 

Bernard Patry moved, -- That Bill C-6, in Clause 78, be amended by replacing, in the French version, lines 17 and 18 on page 25 with the following:

 

"vraisemblablement pour effet d'altérer de façon importante la qualité, la quantité ou le débit des"

 

After debate, the question being put on the amendment, it was agreed to on division.

 

Clause 78, as amended, carried on division.

 

On Clause 112

 

Bernard Patry moved, -- That Bill C-6, in Clause 112, be amended by replacing line 41 on page 39 with the following:

 

"less than seven members including a chair-"

 

After debate, the question being put on the amendment, it was agreed to on division.

 

Clause 112, as amended, carried on division.

 

Clause 115 carried.

 

On Clause 125

 

Derrek Konrad moved, -- That Bill C-6, in Clause 125, be amended by replacing line 33 on page 44 with the following:

 

"cause of significant public concern; and"

 

After debate, the question being put on the amendment, it was negatived.

 

Derrek Konrad moved, -- That Bill C-6, in Clause 125, be amended by replacing line 45 on page 44 with the following:

 

"or might be a cause of significant public concern; and"

 

The question being put on the amendment, it was negatived.

 

Clause 125 carried.

 

On Clause 127

 

Bernard Patry moved, -- That Bill C-6, in Clause 127, be amended by replacing, in the English version, line 12 on page 46 with the following:

 

"Board shall take into account any report made in"

 

After debate, the question being put on the amendment, it was agreed to.

 

Clause 127, as amended, carried.

 

On Clause 147

 

Judi Longfield moved, -- That Bill C-6, in Clause 147, be amended

 

(a) by replacing lines 28 and 29 on page 58 with the following:

 

"146 in consultation with the first nations."

 

(b) by replacing, in the French version, line 38 on page 58 with the following:

 

"me, les premières nations des Gwich'in et du Sahtu participent à leur"

 

After debate, the question being put on the amendment, it was agreed to on division.

 

Clause 147, as amended, carried on division.

 

On Clause 151

 

Bernard Patry, moved, -- That Bill C-6, in Clause 151, be amended by

 

(a) adding after line 22 on page 60 the following:

 

"or under any territorial law"

 

(b) replacing lines 27 and 28 on page 60 with the following:

"may be, continue in effect, subject to any terms and"

 

(c) replacing line 33 on page 60 with the following:

 

"Territorial Lands Act or in accordance with any applicable territorial law, amend, renew or"

 

(d) replacing line 3 on page 61 with the following:

 

"as defined in those regulations, or conferred by that territorial law on any authority specified in it."

 

After debate, the question being put on the amendment, it was agreed to.

 

Clause 151, as amended, carried.

 

On Clause 152

 

Bernard Patry moved, -- That Bill C-6, in Clause 152, be amended by replacing lines 16 to 31 on page 61 with the following:

 

"152. Rights to the use of land under any lease, easement or other interest in land that was granted under the Territorial Lands Act or the regulations made pursuant to that Act, or under any territorial law, and that exist on the coming into force of sections 54 and 56 or section 99 continue in effect, subject to the terms and conditions of exercising those rights."

 

After debate, the question being put on the amendment, it was agreed to on division.

 

Clause 152, as amended, carried on division.

 

On Clause 155

 

Derrek Konrad moved, -- That Bill C-6, in Clause 155, be amended by replacing lines 17 to 20 on page 62 with the following:

 

"application."

 

After debate, the question being put on the amendment, it was negatived.

 

Derrek Konrad moved, -- That Bill C-6, in Clause 155, be amended by deleting lines 26 to 32 on page 62.

 

The question being put on the amendment, it was negatived.

 

Derrek Konrad moved, -- That Bill C-6, in Clause 155, be amended by deleting lines 33 to 40 on page 62.

 

The question being put on the amendment, it was negatived.

 

Clause 155 carried.

 

Clause 157 carried.

 

New Clause 157.1

 

Bernard Patry moved, -- That Bill C-6 be amended by adding after line 16 on page 63 the following:

 

"157.1 Part 5 does not apply in respect of any licence, permit or other authorization related to an undertaking that is the subject of a licence or permit issued before June 22, 1984, except a licence, permit or other authorization for an abandonment, decommissioning or other significant alteration of the project."

 

After debate, the question being put on the amendment, it was agreed to on division.

 

On Clause 159

 

Bernard Patry moved, -- That Bill C-6, in Clause 159, be amended by replacing lines 4 to 14 on page 64 with the following:

 

"(2) The Canadian Environmental Assessment Act continues to apply in respect of a proposal for a development, as defined in Part 5 of this Act, for which a screening or comprehensive study was commenced under that Act before the coming into force of Part 5 without a determination being made pursuant to subsection 20(1) or section 23 or, in the case of a referral under paragraph 23(a), pursuant to subsection 37(1), of that Act, and that determination may only be made after the screening report or comprehensive study report is submitted to the Mackenzie Valley Environmental Impact Review Board and after consultation with that Board."

 

After debate, the question being put on the amendment, it was agreed to.

 

Clause 159, as amended, carried.

 

The Committee reverted to consideration of Clause 2.

 

Clause 2, as amended, carried.

 

The Schedule carried.

 

Clause 1 carried.

 

On the preamble

 

Bernard Patry moved, -- That Bill C-6, in the preamble, be amended by deleting lines 24 to 29 on page 1.

 

After debate, the question being put on the amendment, it was agreed to.

 

The Preamble, as amended, carried.

 

The Title carried.

 

The Bill, as amended, carried.

 

Ordered, -- That Bill C-6, as amended, be reprinted as a working copy for the use of the House of Commons at Report Stage.

 

 

Ordered, -- That the Chairman report the Bill, as amended, to the House.

 

 


At 5:13 o’clock p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.


Christine Fisher



Clerk of the Committee