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Minutes of Proceedings

Standing Committee on Government Operations and Estimates (OGGO)
44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 113
Wednesday, March 27, 2024, 11:01 a.m. to 2:56 p.m.
Televised
Presiding
Kelly McCauley, Chair (Conservative)

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• Alexandre Boulerice for Taylor Bachrach (NDP)
• Adam Chambers for Kelly Block (Conservative)
• Francis Drouin for Majid Jowhari (Liberal)
• Shelby Kramp-Neuman for Stephanie Kusie (Conservative)
• Philip Lawrence for Garnett Genuis (Conservative)
• Ron McKinnon for Parm Bains (Liberal)
• John Barlow (Conservative)
• Brad Redekopp (Conservative)
Library of Parliament
• Olivier Leblanc-Laurendeau, Analyst
• Mahdi Benmoussa, Analyst
Main Estimates 2024-25: Vote 1 under Canada Post Corporation, Vote 1 under Canada School of Public Service, Vote 1 under Canada School of Public Service, Vote 1 under Canadian Intergovernmental Conference Secretariat, Vote 1 under Canadian Transportation Accident Investigation and Safety Board, Votes 1 and 5 under Department of Public Works and Government Services, Votes 1 and 5 under National Capital Commission, Vote 1 under Office of the Governor General's Secretary, Vote 1 under Office of the Parliamentary Budget Officer, Vote 1 under Office of the Public Sector Integrity Commissioner, Vote 1 under Privy Council Office, Vote 1 under Public Service Commission, Vote 1 under Senate, Votes 1 and 5 under Shared Services Canada and Votes 1, 5, 10, 20, 25, 30 and 35 under Treasury Board Secretariat
Government of Saskatchewan
• Hon. Scott Moe, Premier of Saskatchewan
Office of the Parliamentary Budget Officer
• Yves Giroux, Parliamentary Budget Officer
• Jill Giswold, Senior Analyst
• Kaitlyn Vanderwees, Analyst
Pursuant to Standing Order 81(4), the committee commenced consideration of the Main Estimates 2024-25: Vote 1 under Canada Post Corporation, Vote 1 under Canada School of Public Service, Vote 1 under Canada School of Public Service, Vote 1 under Canadian Intergovernmental Conference Secretariat, Vote 1 under Canadian Transportation Accident Investigation and Safety Board, Vote 1 and 5 under Department of Public Works and Government Services, Vote 1 and 5 under National Capital Commission, Vote 1 under Office of the Governor General's Secretary, Vote 1 under Office of the Parliamentary Budget Officer, Vote 1 under Office of the Public Sector Integrity Commissioner, Vote 1 under Privy Council Office, Vote 1 under Public Service Commission, Vote 1 under Senate, Vote 1 and 5 under Shared Services Canada and Vote 1, 5, 10, 20, 25, 30 and 35 under Treasury Board Secretariat, referred to the committee on Thursday, February 29, 2024.

Scott Moe made a statement and answered questions.

At 11:22 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 11:23 a.m., the sitting resumed.

Motion

Charles Sousa moved, — That, when the committee undertakes to invite witnesses:

(a) a witness list submission deadline be set by the Chair, with the explicit consent of the committee;

(b) witnesses be invited proportionally to each recognized party standing in the House; and

(c) no such witness be invited without instruction of the committee.

At 11:48 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 11:51 a.m., the sitting resumed.

RULING BY THE CHAIR

The Chair deems the motion inadmissible.

Whereupon, Charles Sousa appealed the decision of the Chair.

The question: ''Shall the decision of the Chair be sustained?'' was put and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Adam Chambers, Phil Lawrence, Shelby Kramp-Neuman

NAYS: Jenica Atwin, Ron McKinnon, Francis Drouin, Irek Kusmierzcyk, Charles Sousa, Julie Vignola, Alexandre Boulerice

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Jenica Atwin, Alexandre Boulerice, Francis Drouin, Irek Kusmierczyk, Ron McKinnon, Charles Sousa, Julie Vignola — 7;

NAYS: Adam Chambers, Shelby Kramp-Neuman, Philip Lawrence — 3.

Questioning of the witness resumed.

At 12:36 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 12:39 p.m., the sitting resumed.

Yves Giroux made a statement and answered questions.

At 2:23 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 2:40 p.m., the sitting resumed.

Committee Business
The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

Motion

Charles Sousa moved, — That the meeting of Thursday, March 28, 2024, be cancelled.

Debate arose thereon.

At 2:56 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Simon Larouche
Committee clerk