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Minutes of Proceedings

44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 131
Wednesday, June 19, 2024, 5:14 p.m. to 6:28 p.m.
Televised
Presiding
Kelly McCauley, Chair (Conservative)

Library of Parliament
• Olivier Leblanc-Laurendeau, Analyst
• Ryan van den Berg, Analyst
The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

It was agreed, — That, notwithstanding any previous decisions, members be given more time to consider the documentation received regarding the government list of qualified Indigenous businesses, and that any action by the committee in relation to that documentation be the subject of a new motion after the summer.

It was agreed, — That, regarding the study of postal service in Canada’s rural and remote communities, John Anderson be again invited to appear in the fall, provided that he provides the Clerk with his speaking notes for today, which will be translated and distributed to committee members, and that the committee hear from additional witnesses in the fall before completing a report on the matter.

At 5:28 p.m., the meeting was suspended.

At 5:33 p.m., the meeting resumed.

• Hon. Anita Anand, President of the Treasury Board
Treasury Board Secretariat
• Annie Boudreau, Comptroller General of Canada
• Antoine Brunelle-Côté, Assistant Secretary, Expenditure Management Sector
• Karen Cahill, Assistant Secretary and Chief Financial Officer
• Bill Matthews, Secretary of the Treasury Board of Canada
• Dominic Rochon, Chief Information Officer of Canada
• Francis Trudel, Associate Chief Human Resources Officer
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the committee resumed its study of subject matter of Supplementary Estimates (A), 2024-25.

The Minister made a statement and, with the other witnesses, answered questions.

Motion

Matthew Green moved, — That, as per the usual practice of House of Commons standing committees, the Standing Committee on Government Operations and Estimates shall not meet during Parliament’s summer recess unless the requirements of s.106(4) of the Standing Orders are met.

RULING BY THE CHAIR

The Chair ruled the motion inadmissible because it was moved outside the “Committee Business” section and because it had already been moved at a previous meeting and on which debate had adjourned.

Whereupon, Matthew Green appealed the decision of the Chair.

The question was put on the question “Shall the decision of the Chair be sustained?” and the decision was overturned on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Block, Genuis, Kusie — 3;

NAYS: Bains, Green, Jowhari, Powlowski, Kusmierczyk, Sousa, Vignola, — 7.

Accordingly, the decision of the Chair was overturned.

RULING BY THE CHAIR

The Chair declared the motion inadmissible on the grounds that the motion is not substantially different from a motion moved at a previous meeting.

Whereupon, Matthew Green appealed the decision of the Chair.

The question was put on the question “Shall the decision of the Chair be sustained?” and the decision was overturned on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Block, Genuis, Kusie — 3;

NAYS: Bains, Green, Jowhari, Powlowski, Kusmierczyk, Sousa, Vignola — 7.

Accordingly, the decision of the Chair was overturned.

Motion

Matthew Green moved, — That, taking into consideration the House of Commons administration will block times during the summer for technical blackouts when committees will be unable to meet, and that summer is a time when members spend time in their constituencies, meeting with constituents and attending community events, the members of this committee and sub-committee agree not to meet during the summer recess except for meetings under Standing Order 106.4.

Debate arose thereon.

At 6:28 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Marc-Olivier Girard
Clerk of the committee