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Minutes of Proceedings

44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 99
Monday, January 29, 2024, 11:04 a.m. to 1:07 p.m.
Televised
Presiding
Kelly McCauley, Chair (Conservative)

• Scot Davidson for Kelly Block (Conservative)
• Marcus Powlowski for Jenica Atwin (Liberal)
• Denis Trudel for Julie Vignola (Bloc Québécois)
Library of Parliament
• Olivier Leblanc-Laurendeau, Analyst
• Ryan van den Berg, Analyst
The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

Motion

Scot Davidson moved, — Given that Government regulation and red tape imposes higher costs on Canadians, making the cost-of-living crisis worse, and that excessive regulation and red tape is felt by small businesses, entrepreneurs and throughout the entire economy, including, housing, health care, energy and more, the committee recognize the following negative impacts caused by government red tape and regulation and report to the House that:

i. The 2024 red tape report card, the federal government received a “C-“ on the regulatory burden it places on businesses, according to the CFIB,

ii. 92% of small business want the government to reduce regulation and red tape, according to the CFIB,

iii. Canada ranks 34 out of 35 OECD countries in time it takes to approve a building project, while the United States and the United Kingdom approve projects three times faster than Canada, according to the Ontario Housing Affordability Task Force,

iv. The Canadian Home Builders Association says the average development approval timelines in some of Canada’s most unaffordable cities have continued to worsen, with Toronto increasing from 21 months in 2020 to 32 months in 2022, and Vancouver increasing from 13 months in 2020 to 15 months in 2022,

v. 54% of foreign trained doctors and 64% foreign trained nurses do not work in health care, according to Statistics Canada,

vi. The Government of Canada says it takes up to 25 years to build a mine in Canada,

In order to lower costs, and improve services for Canadians, the committee call on the government to immediately reduce the regulatory burden and red tape across all sectors in the economy and table a plan within 30 days of this motion being adopted showing reductions in red tape and regulation.

Debate arose thereon.

At 11:18 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 11:28 a.m., the sitting resumed.

The committee resumed consideration of the motion moved by Scott Davidson which read as follows:

Given that Government regulation and red tape imposes higher costs on Canadians, making the cost-of-living crisis worse, and that excessive regulation and red tape is felt by small businesses, entrepreneurs and throughout the entire economy, including, housing, health care, energy and more, the committee recognize the following negative impacts caused by government red tape and regulation and report to the House that:

i. The 2024 red tape report card, the federal government received a “C-“ on the regulatory burden it places on businesses, according to the CFIB,

ii. 92% of small business want the government to reduce regulation and red tape, according to the CFIB,

iii. Canada ranks 34 out of 35 OECD countries in time it takes to approve a building project, while the United States and the United Kingdom approve projects three times faster than Canada, according to the Ontario Housing Affordability Task Force,

iv. The Canadian Home Builders Association says the average development approval timelines in some of Canada’s most unaffordable cities have continued to worsen, with Toronto increasing from 21 months in 2020 to 32 months in 2022, and Vancouver increasing from 13 months in 2020 to 15 months in 2022,

v. 54% of foreign trained doctors and 64% foreign trained nurses do not work in health care, according to Statistics Canada,

vi. The Government of Canada says it takes up to 25 years to build a mine in Canada,

In order to lower costs, and improve services for Canadians, the committee call on the government to immediately reduce the regulatory burden and red tape across all sectors in the economy and table a plan within 30 days of this motion being adopted showing reductions in red tape and regulation.

The debate continued

Amendment

Taylor Bachrach moved, — That the motion be amended by adding after the words “all sectors in the economy” the following: “extend partial loan forgiveness for CEPA loans until the end of 2024”.

At 12:22 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 12:23 p.m., the sitting resumed.

RULING BY THE CHAIR

The Chair ruled the amendment out of order as it was beyond the scope of the motion.

The committee resumed consideration of the motion moved by Scott Davidson which read as follows:

Given that Government regulation and red tape imposes higher costs on Canadians, making the cost-of-living crisis worse, and that excessive regulation and red tape is felt by small businesses, entrepreneurs and throughout the entire economy, including, housing, health care, energy and more, the committee recognize the following negative impacts caused by government red tape and regulation and report to the House that:

i. The 2024 red tape report card, the federal government received a “C-“ on the regulatory burden it places on businesses, according to the CFIB,

ii. 92% of small business want the government to reduce regulation and red tape, according to the CFIB,

iii. Canada ranks 34 out of 35 OECD countries in time it takes to approve a building project, while the United States and the United Kingdom approve projects three times faster than Canada, according to the Ontario Housing Affordability Task Force,

iv. The Canadian Home Builders Association says the average development approval timelines in some of Canada’s most unaffordable cities have continued to worsen, with Toronto increasing from 21 months in 2020 to 32 months in 2022, and Vancouver increasing from 13 months in 2020 to 15 months in 2022,

v. 54% of foreign trained doctors and 64% foreign trained nurses do not work in health care, according to Statistics Canada; vi. The Government of Canada says it takes up to 25 years to build a mine in Canada,

In order to lower costs, and improve services for Canadians, the committee call on the government to immediately reduce the regulatory burden and red tape across all sectors in the economy and table a plan within 30 days of this motion being adopted showing reductions in red tape and regulation.

The debate continued

At 12:27 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 12:36 p.m., the sitting resumed.

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Taylor Bachrach, Scot Davidson, Garnett Genuis, Stephanie Kusie — 4;

NAYS: Parm Bains, Majid Jowhari, Irek Kusmierczyk, Marcus Powlowski, Charles Sousa, Julie Vignola — 6.

On motion of Garnett Genuis, it was agreed, — That the clerk inform Erin O'Gorman that the committee sends for the preliminary statement of fact regarding CBSA's investigation, that was sent to the supervisors of Mr MacDonald and Mr Utano.

At 12:46 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 12:53 p.m., the sitting resumed in camera.

The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

At 1:07 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Thomas Bigelow
Acting clerk of the committee