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Minutes of Proceedings

Standing Committee on Government Operations and Estimates (OGGO)
44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 112
Tuesday, March 26, 2024, 12:02 p.m. to 2:17 p.m.
Televised
Presiding
Kelly McCauley, Chair (Conservative)

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• Luc Berthold for Kelly Block (Conservative)
• Larry Brock for Garnett Genuis (Conservative)
• Sean Casey for Majid Jowhari (Liberal)
• Sean Casey for Jenica Atwin (Liberal)
• Bryan May for Majid Jowhari (Liberal)
• Kyle Seeback for Stephanie Kusie (Conservative)
Library of Parliament
• Olivier Leblanc-Laurendeau, Analyst
• Lindsay McGlashan, Analyst
ArriveCAN Application
Canada Border Services Agency
• Jonathan Moor, Vice-President, Comptrollership Branch
• Mike Leahy, Director General, CARM Project Directorate
• Alexandre Martel, Executive Director, Procurement
• Stephen Alexander, Contracting Officer
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(c) and the motion adopted by the committee on Monday, October 17, 2022, the committee resumed its study of the ArriveCAN application.

Jonathan Moor made a statement and, with Alexandre Martel and Mike Leahy, answered questions.

It was agreed, — That the proposed budget in the amount of $1,000, for the study of the Main Estimates 2024-25, be adopted.

It was agreed, — That the proposed budget in the amount of $1,000, for the study of the Supplementary Estimates (C), 2023-24, be adopted.

Motion

Larry Brock moved, — That the committee direct the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) to present, no later than April 2nd, 2024: (a) all Botler AI communication with Erin O’Gorman and other employees of the CBSA; (b) the misconduct report received from Botler AI in the fall of 2022, and (c) any and all evidence pertaining to the deleted and/or missing CBSA emails attributed to Minh Doan.

Debate arose thereon.

At 2:02 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 2:13 p.m., the sitting resumed.

The debate continued

Amendment

Charles Sousa moved, — That the motion be amended by replacing all the words after “Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA)” with the following:

''to present to the committee, no later than Friday, April 19, 2024, at 12:00 p.m.: (a) all Botler AI communication with Erin O’Gorman and other employees of the CBSA; and

(b) the misconduct report received from Botler AI in the fall of 2022''.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Charles Sousa and it was agreed to.

After debate, the question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

That the Committee direct the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) to present to the committee, no later than Friday, April 19, 2024, at 12:00 p.m.: (a) all Botler AI communication with Erin O’Gorman and other employees of the CBSA; and (b) the misconduct report received from Botler AI in the fall of 2022.

At 2:17 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Thomas Bigelow
Clerk of the committee