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Minutes of Proceedings

44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 66
Tuesday, April 25, 2023, 3:44 p.m. to 5:46 p.m.
Presiding
John Brassard, Chair (Conservative)

• Angelo Iacono (Liberal)
• Irek Kusmierczyk (Liberal)
• Yasir Naqvi (Liberal)
Library of Parliament
• Alexandra Savoie, Analyst
• Sabrina Charland, Analyst
The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

Motion

Michael Barrett moved, — That the committee call the Lobbying Commissioner and the former Interim Ethics Commissioner to appear, regarding the appointment of former Liberal Minister of Industry, Navdeep Bains as chief corporate affairs officer at Rogers Communications.

Debate arose thereon.

By unanimous consent, the motion was allowed to stand.

Department of National Defence
• Anne Bank, Executive Director, Directorate Access to Information and Privacy
Department of Citizenship and Immigration
• Sylvain Beauchamp, Director General, Client Experience
• Tracy Perry, Acting Director General, Integrated Corporate Business, Corporate Services
As an individual
• Dean Beeby, Journalist
Democracy Watch
• Duff Conacher, Co-Founder
Canadian Security Intelligence Service
• Nicole Giles, Deputy Director and Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Policy and Strategic Partnerships
Library and Archives of Canada
• Kristina Lillico, Director General, Access to Information and Privacy
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(h) and the motion adopted by the committee on Monday, May 16, 2022, the committee resumed its study of access to information and privacy system.

Dean Beeby and Duff Conacher made statements and answered questions.

At 4:42 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 4:47 p.m., the sitting resumed.

Nicole Giles, Tracy Perry, Anne Bank and Kristina Lillico made statements and, with Sylvain Beauchamp, answered questions

The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

The committee resumed consideration of the motion of Michael Barrett, — That the committee call the Lobbying Commissioner and the former Interim Ethics Commissioner to appear, regarding the appointment of former Liberal Minister of Industry, Navdeep Bains as chief corporate affairs officer at Rogers Communications.

The debate continued.

Amendment

Matthew Green moved, — That the motion be amended by deleting the words "and the former Interim Ethics Commissioner” and by adding, after the words "Rogers Communications", the words "; and that in in the absence of a duly appointed Ethics Commissioner, the Chair send a letter to the Office of the Ethics Commissioner asking if any advice has been given regarding Rogers and demanding the details of the Office of the Ethics Commissioner’s involvement with respect to the appointment process.".

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Matthew Green and it was agreed to.

After debate, the question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

That the committee call the Lobbying Commissioner to appear, regarding the appointment of former Liberal Minister of Industry, Navdeep Bains as chief corporate affairs officer at Rogers Communications; and that in in the absence of a duly appointed Ethics Commissioner, the Chair send a letter to the Office of the Ethics Commissioner asking if any advice has been given regarding Rogers and demanding the details of the Office of the Ethics Commissioner’s involvement with respect to the appointment process.

At 5:46 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Nancy Vohl
Clerk of the committee