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Minutes of Proceedings

44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 89
Monday, December 11, 2023, 11:00 a.m. to 12:35 p.m.
Webcast
Presiding
Heath MacDonald, Chair (Liberal)

House of Commons
• Jean-François Pagé, Legislative Clerk
• Émilie Thivierge, Legislative Clerk
 
Library of Parliament
• Sabrina Charland, Analyst
• Alexsandra Ferland, Analyst
The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

The Chair presented the Sixth Report from the Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure, which read as follows:

Your subcommittee met on Wednesday, December 6, 2023, to consider the business of the committee and agreed to make the following recommendations:

  1. That clause-by-clause consideration of Bill C-320, An Act to amend the Corrections and Conditional Release Act (disclosure of information to victims), commence on Monday, December 11, 2023.
  2. That the Minister of Public Safety be invited to appear for two hours, at his earliest convenience in 2024, to discuss his mandate, as requested by the committee motion adopted on Monday, October 23, 2023.
  3. That the clerk invite the selected witnesses including the Minister of Public Safety and the Minister of Innovation, Science and Technology, regarding Bill C-26, An Act respecting cyber security, amending the Telecommunications Act and making consequential amendments to other Acts, to appear at the next committee meetings in 2024.
  4. That members of the committee send their prioritized list of proposed witnesses for the study of the growing problem of car thefts in Canada to the clerk no later than Monday, January 29, 2024.

It was agreed, — That the Sixth Report from the subcommittee be concurred in.

• Colin Carrie, M.P., Oshawa
Pursuant to the order of reference of Wednesday, October 18, 2023, the committee commenced consideration of Bill C-320, An Act to amend the Corrections and Conditional Release Act (disclosure of information to victims).

The Chair called Clause 1.

Colin Carrie made a statement and answered questions.

The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

Motion

Randall Garrison gave notice of the following motion:

That the Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security hold a 2-hour meeting, immediately after the winter break, to study the possible impact of the Conservative Party of Canada’s proposed motions and votes, on December 7, 2023, to cut each of the following Supplementary Estimates (B) items of total of $659,805,933 related to public safety:

Canadian Border Services Agency—cuts proposed of $23,051,792

Canadian Security Intelligence Service—cuts proposed of $32,964,572

Correctional Service—cuts proposed of $290,588,112

Court Administration Service—cuts proposed of $22,743,433

Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness—cuts proposed of $176,059,072

Royal Canadian Mounted Police — cuts proposed of $114,398,952

Doug Shipley gave notice of the following motion:

Given that the Liberal government’s costly carbon tax is driving up the cost of everything, including the cost of fuel, which negatively impacts the budgets of policing services across Canada;

That the Chair report to the House that the committee call on the government to immediately cancel the carbon tax.

• Colin Carrie, M.P., Oshawa
Pursuant to the order of reference of Wednesday, October 18, 2023, the committee resumed consideration of Bill C-320, An Act to amend the Corrections and Conditional Release Act (disclosure of information to victims).

Questioning of Colin Carrie resumed.

At 11:57 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 12:06 p.m., the sitting resumed.

Correctional Service of Canada
• Kirstan Gagnon, Assistant Commissioner, Communications and Engagement Sector
• Katherine Belhumeur, Director General, Offender Programs and Reintegration Branch
• Katherine Cole, Director, Citizen Engagement
Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness
• Chad Westmacott, Director General, Community Safety, Corrections and Criminal Justice
Parole Board of Canada
• Lawrence Chow, Director Genera, Policy, Planning and Operations
Pursuant to the order of reference of Wednesday, October 18, 2023, the committee resumed consideration of Bill C-320, An Act to amend the Corrections and Conditional Release Act (disclosure of information to victims).

Kirstan Gagnon, Katherine Cole and Chad Westmacott answered questions.

The committee commenced its clause-by-clause study of the Bill.

On Clause 1,

Dane Lloyd moved, — That Bill C-320, in Clause 1, be amended:

Proactively to a victim of an offence committed by an offender, unless otherwise requested, the commissioner.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Dane Lloyd and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Dane Lloyd, Eric Melillo, Glen Motz, Doug Shipley — 4;

NAYS: Chris Bittle, Kody Blois, Randall Garrison, Ron McKinnon, Jennifer O'Connell, Yves Perron, Peter Schiefke — 7.

Clause 1 carried.

Clause 2 carried.

Clause 3 carried.

The Title carried.

The Bill was adopted.

ORDERED, — That the Chair report the Bill to the House.

At 12:35 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Simon Larouche
Clerk of the committee