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Minutes of Proceedings

44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 153
Tuesday, September 24, 2024, 3:44 p.m. to 5:43 p.m.
Televised
Presiding
Peter Fonseca, Chair (Liberal)

Library of Parliament
• Mehrab Kiarsi, Analyst
• Joëlle Malo, Analyst
As an individual
• Steven Lewis, Adjunct Professor of Health Policy, Simon Fraser University
• Kim G. C. Moody, Moodys LLP Tax Advisors
Canadian Cattle Association
• Jennifer Babcock, Senior Director, Government Relations and Public Affairs
• Jack Chaffe, Officer at Large
Canadians for Tax Fairness
• Katrina Miller, Executive Director
Office of the Parliamentary Budget Officer
• Govindadeva Bernier, Director, Budgetary Analysis
• Yves Giroux, Parliamentary Budget Officer
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2) and the motion adopted by the committee on Thursday, June 13, 2024, the committee resumed its study of changes to capital gains and corresponding measures announced in Budget 2024.

Steven Lewis, Jack Chaffe, Yves Giroux, Kim Moody and Katrina Miller made statements and, with Jennifer Babcock and Govindadeva Bernier, answered questions.

Motion

Marty Morantz moved, — That, with regard to the provisions of Budget 2024 and the subsequent motion passed by the House of Commons regarding changes to certain provisions regarding the administration of Capital Gains and the provisions related to the taxation of Capital Gains earned by both individuals under the Income Tax Act and Corporations (both publicly traded and Canadian Controlled Private Corporations) including but not limited to the increase in the inclusion rate from 50% to 66 2/3's %, the Department of Finance provide the following to the House of Commons Standing Committee of Finance on or before November 1st, 2024:

A detailed written ‘economic impact study’ on the implementation of the aforesaid changes including:

  1. A breakdown of the expected impact on private sector employment including, jobs related to trades and construction;
  2. An estimate of the anticipated new tax revenue expected;
  3. A breakdown of the effect the changes will have on Canadas GDP both gross and per capita;
  4. An analysis of the impact on the equity positions of publicly traded Corporations with a specific focus on the direct impact on share value;
  5. An estimate of the impact of the equity position of the Canada Pension Plan;
  6. An estimate of the impact on investment in SMEs, start-ups and R&D including impact on scaling; and
  7. An analysis as to whether these changes will be a disincentive for the construction of purpose built rental units and multi unit housing projects.

Debate arose thereon.

Motion

Rachel Bendayan moved, — That the debate be now adjourned.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Yvan Baker, Rachel Bendayan, Don Davies, Julie Dzerowicz, Francesco Sorbara, Joanne Thompson — 6;

NAYS: Adam Chambers, Jasraj Singh Hallan, Pat Kelly, Marty Morantz, Gabriel Ste-Marie — 5.

Questioning of the witnesses resumed.

Rachel Bendayan gave notice of the following motion:

That the Committee hold Pre-Budget Consultations for the 2025 Budget, and that:

  1. The committee dedicate no fewer than ten meetings to pre-budget consultations and that it reportsits findings to the house.
  2. The Deputy Prime Minister and Finance Minister and departmental officials be invited to appearbefore the committee.

At 5:43 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Alexandre Roger
Clerk of the committee