Konrad Winrich von Finckenstein made a statement.

Garnett Genuis moved, — In light of testimony and evidence provided by Diane Daly, the committee order the production from the government of the recording which Ms. Daly referenced in her testimony of her 3.5-hour interview with the Canada Border Services Agency, and call the following people to appear before the committee on ArriveCan and particularly to respond to the new information Ms. Daly has presented: Lysane Bolduc, Tom Von Schoenberg, Arianne Reza, Erin O’Gorman, and additional officials and experts with knowledge of Task-based informatics professional services (TBIPS); further, that the committee write to Kristian Firth and ask him to provide information and evidence supporting his claims at the bar of the House regarding Diane Daly, including the time, location, and names of other participants at the alleged meetings with her, and that he respond to the committee’s request for information by Labour Day.

Debate arose thereon.

At 10:18 a.m., the meeting was suspended.

At 10:24 a.m., the meeting resumed.

Debate on the motion resumed.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Shafqat Ali, Michael Barrett, Valerie Bradford, Larry Brock, Blake Desjarlais, Garnett Genuis, Iqra Khalid, Brenda Shanahan, Nathalie Sinclair-Desgagné, Jean Yip — 10;

NAYS: — 0.

Questioning of the witnesses resumed.

At 11:49 a.m., the meeting was suspended.

At 11:57 a.m., the meeting resumed.

Questioning of the witnesses resumed.

Rick Perkins moved, — That, given the Auditor General’s audit of Sustainable Development and Technology Canada (SDTC), and given that government-appointed board members approved: (a) $330 million towards 186 projects (44%) in which nine Order-in-Council board members had conflicts of interest in violation of the Canada Foundation for Sustainable Development Technology Act, (b) $58 million towards projects that were outside of SDTC’s spending restrictions outlined by its contribution agreements with Innovation, Science and Economic Development Canada, the committee therefore express extreme concern with the blatant disregard of taxpayer funds, call on the Minister of Innovation, Science, and Industry to recoup these funds for Canadians taxpayers within 60 days following the adoption of this motion, and request the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner investigate all 186 conflict of interest votes and the culture of conflict at the SDTC Board.

A point of order was raised as to the procedural acceptability of the proposed motion.

RULING BY THE CHAIR

The chair ruled the motion admissible, as the topic of the motion related to the matter at hand.

Whereupon, Brenda Shanahan appealed the decision of the Chair.

The question: "Shall the decision of the chair be sustained?" was put and was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Larry Brock, Blake Desjarlais, Garnett Genuis, Rick Perkins — 4;

NAYS: Shafqat Ali, Valerie Bradford, Iqra Khalid, Brenda Shanahan, Nathalie Sinclair-Desgagné, Jean Yip — 6.