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MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS
 
Meeting No. 1
 
Thursday, May 17, 2012
 

The Subcommittee on Bill C-38 (Part 3) of the Standing Committee on Finance met at 8:49 a.m. this day, in Room 237-C, Centre Block, for the purpose of electing a Chair, pursuant to Standing Order 106(2).

 

Members of the Subcommittee present: Mike Allen, Stella Ambler, David Anderson, Blaine Calkins, Kirsty Duncan, Peter Julian, Randy Kamp, Michelle Rempel and Brian Storseth.

 

Acting Members present: Jean Crowder for Anne Minh-Thu Quach, Jack Harris for Robert Chisholm, François Lapointe for Anne Minh-Thu Quach and Nycole Turmel for Megan Anissa Leslie.

 

In attendance: Library of Parliament: Penny Becklumb, Analyst; Mark Mahabir, Analyst. House of Commons: Michelle Tittley, Procedural Clerk.

 

Appearing: Hon. Joe Oliver, P.C., M.P., Minister of Natural Resources; Hon. Peter Kent, P.C., M.P., Minister of the Environment; Hon. Keith Ashfield, P.C., M.P., Minister of Fisheries and Oceans and Minister for the Atlantic Gateway.

 

Witnesses: Department of Natural Resources: Jay Khosla, Assistant Deputy Minister, Major Projects Management Office; Adam Hendriks, Director of Operations Western Canada, Major Projects Management Office. Department of Fisheries and Oceans: Kevin Stringer, Assistant Deputy Minister, Program Policy. Department of the Environment: Coleen Volk, Assistant Deputy Minister, Environmental Stewardship Branch. Canadian Environmental Assessment Agency: Steve Mongrain, Senior Policy Advisor, Policy Development Sector; Helen Cutts, Vice-President, Policy Development Sector. Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development: Jean-François Tremblay, Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Treaties and Aboriginal Government. Department of Transport: Helena Borges, Assistant Deputy Minister, Programs.

 
The Clerk of the Subcommittee presided over the election of a Chair, pursuant to the motion adopted by the Standing Committee on Finance on Tuesday, May 15, 2012.
 

On motion of Mike Allen, it was agreed, — That Blaine Calkins be elected Chair of the Subcommittee.

 

Blaine Calkins took the Chair.

 

Pursuant to the motion adopted by the Standing Committee on Finance on Tuesday, May 15, 2012, the following routine motions are adopted:

— That the Subcommittee retain, as needed and at the discretion of the Chair, the services of one or more analysts from the Library of Parliament to assist it in its work.

— That the Chair be authorized to hold meetings and to receive and publish evidence when a quorum is not present, provided that at least three (3) members are present, including one (1) member of the opposition and one (1) member of the government.

— That witnesses be given up to ten (10) minutes for their opening statement, at the discretion of the Chair; that, at the discretion of the Chair, during the questioning of witnesses, there be allocated seven (7) minutes for each questioner in the first round and five (5) minutes for each questioner in the second and subsequent rounds; that the order of questions for the first round be as follows: Conservative Party, New Democratic Party, Liberal Party; that questioning during the second round should alternate between the government members and the opposition members in the following manner: Conservative Party, Conservative Party, New Democratic Party, Conservative Party, New Democratic Party, Conservative Party, New Democratic Party, Conservative Party, based on the principle that each Committee member should have the opportunity to question the witnesses; and that if time permits, further rounds should repeat the pattern of the first two at the discretion of the Chair.

— That only the Clerk of the Subcommittee be authorized to distribute documents to the members of the Subcommittee and only when the documents are available in both official languages; and that witnesses be advised accordingly.

— That the Clerk of the Subcommittee, in consultation with the Chair, be authorized to make the necessary arrangements to provide working meals for the Subcommittee.

— That, if requested, reasonable travel, accommodation and living expenses be reimbursed to witnesses, not exceeding two (2) representatives per organization, in accordance with the Financial Management and Policy Guide for Committees; and that, in exceptional circumstances, payment for more representatives be made at the discretion of the Chair.

— That, unless otherwise ordered, each committee member be permitted to have one (1) staff member in attendance at any in camera meeting; and that one (1) staff member from each party also be permitted to attend any in camera meeting.

— That one (1) copy of the transcript of each in camera meeting be kept in the Subcommittee Clerk’s office for consultation by members of the Subcommittee.

— That forty-eight (48) hours’ notice be required for any substantive motion to be considered by the Subcommittee, unless the substantive motion relates directly to business then under consideration; that the notice of motion be filed with the Clerk of the Subcommittee and distributed to members in both official languages; and that completed motions received before the close of business, which is understood to be 4:00 p.m., be distributed the same day.

 
Pursuant to the motion adopted by the Standing Committee on Finance on Tuesday, May 15, 2012, the Subcommittee commenced its study of Bill C-38, Part 3 (Responsible Resource Development).
 

It was agreed, — That Hon. Joe Oliver, P.C., M.P., Minister of Natural Resources, Hon. Peter Kent, P.C., M.P., Minister of the Environment and Hon. Keith Ashfield, P.C., M.P., Minister of Fisheries and Oceans and Minister for the Atlantic Gateway, be now heard.

 

On motion of Mike Allen, it was agreed, — That the Subcommittee sits in a televised session.

 

At 8:56 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 8:59 a.m., the sitting resumed in a televised session.

 

The Ministers made statements and answered questions.

 

At 10:11 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 10:15 a.m., the sitting resumed.

 

Jay Khosla, Coleen Volk and Jean-François Tremblay answered questions.

 

At 10:41 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 10:43 a.m., the sitting resumed in camera.

 
The Subcommittee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to Subcommittee business.
 

It was agreed, — That all the parties submit their witness lists, in a priority order, to the Clerk by 5:00 p.m. on Friday, May 18, 2012 at the latest.

 

It was agreed, — That the Subcommittee meets from 6:30 p.m. to 10:30 p.m. on May 28, 29, 30, 31, 2012, provided that if there are votes in the House on an evening of one of these dates, the Subcommittee meets from 7:00 p.m. to 11:00 p.m. .

 

It was agreed, — That the topics for the meetings be as follows: May 28: Economic Impacts; May 29: Environmental Considerations and Aboriginal Consultations; May 30: Duplication of Timelines; May 31: take the last two hours of the meeting to proceed with the study of a Draft Report to the Standing Committee.

 

It was agreed, — That all the meetings be televised.

 

At 11:00 a.m., the Subcommittee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

 



Jean-François Lafleur
Clerk of the Subcommittee

 
 
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