The Clerk informed the House of the unavoidable absence of the Speaker.

Mrs. Maheu (Saint-Laurent -- Cartierville), Deputy Chairperson of Committees of the Whole, took the Chair, pursuant to Standing Order 8.

PRAYERS

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 78(2), Mr. Gagliano (Secretary of State (Parliamentary Affairs) and Deputy Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Gray (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), moved, -- That, in relation to Bill C-77, An Act to provide for the maintenance of railway operations and subsidiary services, not more than three hours shall be allotted to the consideration of the report stage of the Bill and not more than one hour shall be allotted to the consideration of the third reading stage of the Bill and, at the conclusion of the final allotted hour of consideration of each of the said stages of the Bill, any proceedings before the House shall be interrupted and every question necessary for the disposal of the stage then under consideration shall be put forthwith and successively, without further debate or amendment.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 180)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Alcock -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Barnes -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Calder -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Collins -- Copps -- Cowling -- Crawford -- DeVillers -- Discepola -- Duhamel -- English -- Finestone -- Flis -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Hanrahan -- Hickey -- Hoeppner -- Hopkins -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McTeague -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nault -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Patry -- Peters -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringma -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Skoke -- Speaker -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stinson -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thalheimer -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wells -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- 131

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Bachand -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bouchard -- Bélisle -- Caron -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Crête -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fillion -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Godin -- Guay -- Guimond -- Jacob -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Mercier -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Paré -- Pomerleau -- Rocheleau -- St-Laurent -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- 41

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Allmand -- Asselin -- Bellemare -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Brien -- Cannis -- Canuel -- Culbert -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Marchand -- Payne -- Peric -- Picard (Drummond) -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Sauvageau -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata)

The Order was read for the consideration at report stage of Bill C-77, An Act to provide for the maintenance of railway operations and subsidiary services, as reported by the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development with amendments.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(5), the Acting Speaker selected and grouped for debate the following motions:

Group No. 1 -- Motions Nos. 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 15, 16, 17, 19, 20, 21, 22, 24, 25, 26, 29, 30, 31, 33, 34, 35, 36, 38, 39 and 40.

Group No. 2 -- Motions Nos. 4, 9, 13, 18, 23, 27, 32, 37 and 41.

Group No. 3 -- Motions Nos. 14, 28 and 42.

Group No. 1

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 1, -- That Bill C-77, in Clause 2, be amended by replacing lines 14 and 15, on page 1, with the following:

````Commission'' means a Mediation Commission established under this''.

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 2, -- That Bill C-77, in Clause 8, be amended by replacing lines 35 and 36, on page 3, with the following:

``8. (1) During the mediation period,''.

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 3, -- That Bill C-77, in Clause 9, be amended by replacing line 22, on page 4, with the following:

``a Mediation Commission shall be''.

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 5, -- That Bill C-77, in Clause 11, be amended by replacing lines 46 to 48, on page 6, with the following:

``11.(1) Within fifty days after its establishment, each Commission shall''.

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 6, -- That Bill C-77, in Clause 11, be amended by replacing lines 5 to 14, on page 7, with the following:

``was established, endeavour to mediate all the matters referred to it and to bring about an agreement between the employer and the union on those matters;''.

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 7, -- That Bill C-77, in Clause 11, be amended by replacing lines 20 and 21, on page 7, with the following:

``(c) submit a report to the Minister who shall lay the report before the House of Commons within ten days

(i) unless the parties have reached an agreement within that period; or

(ii) where no agreement is reached, the parties may, by mutual agreement, submit their dispute to arbitration or shall recover their rights under Part I of the Canada Labour Code, once the ten days have expired.''

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 8, -- That Bill C-77, in Clause 11, be amended by deleting lines 22 to 30, on page 7.

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 10, -- That Bill C-77, in Clause 13, be amended by replacing lines 40 to 46, on page 7 and lines 1 to 6, on page 8, with the following:

``for the purposes of the mediation referred to in subparagraph 11(1)(a)(i), all the powers of a conciliation commissioner under section 84 of the Canada Labour Code.''

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 11, -- That Bill C-77 be amended by deleting Clause 14.

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 12, -- That Bill C-77 be amended by deleting Clause 15.

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 15, -- That Bill C-77, in Clause 25, be amended by replacing lines 9 and 10, on page 11, with the following:

````Commission'' means a Mediation Commission established under this''.

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 16, -- That Bill C-77, in Clause 30, be amended by replacing lines 1 and 2, on page 13, with the following:

``30. During the mediation period,''.

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 17, -- That Bill C-77, in Clause 31, be amended by replacing line 14, on page 13, with the following:

``a Mediation Commission shall be''.

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 19, -- That Bill C-77, in Clause 33, be amended by replacing lines 38 to 40, on page 15, with the following:

``33.(1) Within fifty days after its establishment, each Commission shall''.

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 20, -- That Bill C-77, in Clause 33, be amended by replacing lines 45 to 47, on page 15, and lines 1 to 7, page 16, with the following:

``was established, endeavour to mediate all the matters referred to it and to bring about an agreement between the employer and the union on those matters;''.

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 21, -- That Bill C-77, in Clause 33, be amended by replacing lines 13 and 14, on page 16, with the following:

``(c) submit a report to the Minister who shall lay the report before the House of Commons within ten days

(i) unless the parties have reached an agreement within that period; or

(ii) where no agreement is reached, the parties may, by mutual agreement, submit their dispute to arbitration or shall recover their rights under Part I of the Canada Labour Code, once the ten days have expired.''

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 22, -- That Bill C-77, in Clause 33, be amended by deleting lines 15 to 23, on page 16.

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 24, -- That Bill C-77, in Clause 35, be amended by replacing lines 33 to 41, on page 16, with the following:

``for the purposes of the mediation referred to in subparagraph 33(1)(a)(i), all the powers of a conciliation commissioner under section 84 of the Canada Labour Code.''

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 25, -- That Bill C-77 be amended by deleting Clause 36. Mme Lalonde (Mercier), appuyée par M. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), propose la motion no 25, -- Qu'on modifie le projet de loi C-77 en supprimant l'article 36.

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 26, -- That Bill C-77 be amended by deleting Clause 37.

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 29, -- That Bill C-77, in Clause 47, be amended by replacing lines 3 and 4, on page 20, with the following:

````Commission'' means a Mediation Commission established under this''.

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 30, -- That Bill C-77, in Clause 52, be amended by replacing lines 30 and 31, on page 21, with the following:

``52. During the mediation period,''.

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 31, -- That Bill C-77, in Clause 53, be amended by replacing line 2, on page 22, with the following:

``a Mediation Commission shall be''.

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 33, -- That Bill C-77, in Clause 55, be amended by replacing lines 24 to 26, on page 24, with the following:

``55.(1) Within fifty days after its establishment, each Commission shall''.

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 34, -- That Bill C-77, in Clause 55, be amended by replacing lines 31 to 40, on page 24, with the following:

``was established, endeavour to mediate all the matters referred to it and to bring about an agreement between the employer and the union on those matters;''.

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 35, -- That Bill C-77, in Clause 55, be amended by replacing lines 46 and 47, on page 24, with the following:

``(c) submit a report to the Minister who shall lay the report before the House of Commons within ten days

(i) unless the parties have reached an agreement within that period; or

(ii) where no agreement is reached, the parties may, by mutual agreement, submit their dispute to arbitration or shall recover their rights under Part I of the Canada Labour Code once the ten days have expired.''

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 36, -- That Bill C-77, in Clause 55, be amended by deleting lines 1 to 9, on page 25.

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 38, -- That Bill C-77, in Clause 57, be amended by replacing lines 19 to 27, on page 25, with the following:

``for the purposes of the mediation referred to in subparagraph 55(1)(a)(i), all the powers of a conciliation commissioner under section 84 of the Canada Labour Code.''

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 39, -- That Bill C-77 be amended by deleting Clause 58.

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 40, -- That Bill C-77 be amended by deleting Clause 59.

Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 1.

At 12:51 p.m., pursuant to Order adopted earlier today under the provisions of Standing Order 78(2), the Acting Speaker interrupted the proceedings.

The question was put on Motion No. 1 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motions Nos. 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 15, 16, 17, 19, 20, 21, 22, 24, 25, 26, 29, 30, 31, 33, 34, 35, 36, 38, 39 and 40, was deferred.

Group No. 2

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 4, -- That Bill C-77, in Clause 10, be amended by replacing lines 30 to 44, on page 5 and lines 1 to 5, on page 6, with the following:

``(3) The employer and the union may agree on the appointment of a person as Chairperson, but where they do not agree on a Chairperson, the Minister shall, after obtaining the agreement of the official opposition in the House of Commons, appoint as Chairperson a person whom the Minister considers to be qualified.

(4) After the employer and the union representing the bargaining unit have each appointed a person to represent them and the name of the Chairperson is known, the Minister''.

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 9, -- That Bill C-77, in Clause 12, be amended by replacing lines 32 to 37, on page 7, with the following:

``the need to establish good labour-management relations and to that end it shall promote terms and conditions of employment that take into account the experience and knowledge of employees and the economic viability and competitiveness of a coast-to-coast rail system.''

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 13, -- That Bill C-77 be amended by deleting Clause 16.

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 18, -- That Bill C-77, in Clause 32, be amended by replacing lines 22 to 41, on page 14, with the following:

``(3) The employer and the union may agree on the appointment of a person as Chairperson, but where they do not agree on a Chairperson, the Minister shall, after obtaining the agreement of the official opposition parties in the House of Commons, appoint as Chairperson a person whom the Minister considers to be qualified, and the person so appointed shall be deemed to have been appointed by the employer or the union, as the case may be.

(4) After the employer and the union representing the bargaining unit have each appointed a person to represent them and the name of the Chairperson is known, the Minister''.

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 23, -- That Bill C-77, in Clause 34, be amended by replacing lines 25 to 30, on page 16, with the following:

``the need to establish good labour-management relations and to that end it shall promote terms and conditions of employment that take into account the experience and knowledge of employees and the economic viability and competitiveness of a coast-to-coast rail system.''

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 27, -- That Bill C-77 be amended by deleting Clause 38.

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 32, -- That Bill C-77, in Clause 54, be amended by replacing lines 12 to 31, on page 23, with the following:

``(3) The employer and the union may agree on the appointment of a person as Chairperson, but where they do not agree on a Chairperson, the Minister shall, after obtaining the agreement of the official opposition in the House of Commons, appoint as Chairperson a person whom the Minister considers to be qualified, and the person so appointed shall be deemed to have been appointed by the employer or the union, as the case may be.

(4) After the employer and the union representing the bargaining unit have each appointed a person to represent them and the name of the Chairperson is known, the Minister.''

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 37, -- That Bill C-77, in Clause 56, be amended by replacing lines 11 to 16, on page 25, with the following:

``the need to establish good labour-management relations and to that end it shall promote terms and conditions of employment that take into account the experience and knowledge of employees and the economic viability and competitiveness of a coast-to-coast rail system.''

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 41, -- That Bill C-77 be amended by deleting Clause 60.

The question was put on Motion No. 4 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motions Nos. 18 and 32, was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 9 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motions Nos. 23 and 37, was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 13 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motions Nos. 27 and 41, was deferred.

Group No. 3

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 14, -- That Bill C-77 be amended by deleting Clause 18.

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 28, -- That Bill C-77 be amended by deleting Clause 40.

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 42, -- That Bill C-77 be amended by deleting Clause 62.

The question was put on Motion No. 14 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motions Nos. 28 and 42, was deferred.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions at report stage of Bill C-77, An Act to provide for the maintenance of railway operations and subsidiary services, as reported by the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development with amendments.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 1 of Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), -- That Bill C-77, in Clause 2, be amended by replacing lines 14 and 15, on page 1, with the following:

````Commission'' means a Mediation Commission established under this''.

The question was put on Motion No. 1 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N<sup>o</sup> 181)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Bachand -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bouchard -- Bélisle -- Caron -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Crête -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fillion -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Godin -- Guay -- Guimond -- Jacob -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Mercier -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Paré -- Pomerleau -- Rocheleau -- St-Laurent -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- 40

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Alcock -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Calder -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Collins -- Copps -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Culbert -- DeVillers -- Discepola -- Duhamel -- English -- Finestone -- Flis -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Hanrahan -- Hickey -- Hoeppner -- Hopkins -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- Highlands -- Canso) -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- The Sydneys) -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McTeague -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nault -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Patry -- Peters -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringma -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Skoke -- Speaker -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stinson -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thalheimer -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wells -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- 133

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Allmand -- Asselin -- Bellemare -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Brien -- Cannis -- Canuel -- Culbert -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Marchand -- Payne -- Peric -- Picard (Drummond) -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Sauvageau -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata)

Accordingly, Motions Nos. 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 15, 16, 17, 19, 20, 21, 22, 24, 25, 26, 29, 30, 31, 33, 34, 35, 36, 38, 39 and 40 were also negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 4 of Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), -- That Bill C-77, in Clause 10, be amended by replacing lines 30 to 44, on page 5 and lines 1 to 5, on page 6, with the following:

``(3) The employer and the union may agree on the appointment of a person as Chairperson, but where they do not agree on a Chairperson, the Minister shall, after obtaining the agreement of the official opposition in the House of Commons, appoint as Chairperson a person whom the Minister considers to be qualified.

(4) After the employer and the union representing the bargaining unit have each appointed a person to represent them and the name of the Chairperson is known, the Minister''.

The question was put on Motion No. 4 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N<sup>o</sup> 182)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Bachand -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bouchard -- Bélisle -- Caron -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Crête -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fillion -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Godin -- Guay -- Guimond -- Jacob -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Mercier -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Paré -- Pomerleau -- Rocheleau -- St-Laurent -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- 40

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Alcock -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Calder -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Collins -- Copps -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Culbert -- DeVillers -- Discepola -- Duhamel -- English -- Finestone -- Flis -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Hanrahan -- Hickey -- Hoeppner -- Hopkins -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- Highlands -- Canso) -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- The Sydneys) -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McTeague -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nault -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Patry -- Peters -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringma -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Skoke -- Speaker -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stinson -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thalheimer -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wells -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- 133

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Allmand -- Asselin -- Bellemare -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Brien -- Cannis -- Canuel -- Culbert -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Marchand -- Payne -- Peric -- Picard (Drummond) -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Sauvageau -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata)

Accordingly, Motions Nos. 18 and 32 were also negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 9 of Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), -- That Bill C-77, in Clause 12, be amended by replacing lines 32 to 37, on page 7, with the following:

``the need to establish good labour-management relations and to that end it shall promote terms and conditions of employment that take into account the experience and knowledge of employees and the economic viability and competitiveness of a coast-to-coast rail system.''

The question was put on Motion No. 9 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 40, NAYS: 133. (See list under Division No. 182)

Accordingly, Motions Nos. 23 and 37 were also negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred division on Motion No. 13 of Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), -- That Bill C-77 be amended by deleting Clause 16.

The question was put on Motion No. 13 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 40, NAYS: 133. (See list under Division No. 182)

Accordingly, Motions Nos. 27 and 41 were also negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 14 of Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), -- That Bill C-77 be amended by deleting Clause 18.

The question was put on Motion No. 14 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 40, NAYS: 133. (See list under Division No. 182)

Accordingly, Motions Nos. 28 and 42 were also negatived on the same division.

Mrs. Robillard (Minister of Labour), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Secretary of State (Parliamentary Affairs) and Deputy Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), moved, -- That Bill C-77, An Act to provide for the maintenance of railway operations and subsidiary services, as amended, be concurred in at report stage.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division--Vote N<sup>o</sup> 183)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Alcock -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Calder -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Collins -- Copps -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Culbert -- DeVillers -- Discepola -- Duhamel -- English -- Finestone -- Flis -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Hanrahan -- Hickey -- Hoeppner -- Hopkins -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- Higlands -- Caso) -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- The Sydneys) -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McTeague -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nault -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Patry -- Peters -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringma -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Skoke -- Speaker -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stinson -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thalheimer -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wells -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- 133

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Bachand -- Bellehumeur -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bouchard -- Bélisle -- Caron -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Crête -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fillion -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Godin -- Guay -- Guimond -- Jacob -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Mercier -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Paré -- Pomerleau -- Rocheleau -- St-Laurent -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- 39

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Allmand -- Asselin -- Bellemare -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Brien -- Cannis -- Canuel -- Culbert -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Marchand -- Payne -- Peric -- Picard (Drummond) -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Sauvageau -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata)

Accordingly, the Bill, as amended, was concurred in at report stage and ordered for a third reading at the next sitting of the House.

MOTIONS

Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Gray (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), moved, -- That the House do now adjourn.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

ADJOURNMENT

At 1:45 p.m., the House adjourned until tomorrow at 1:00 p.m., pursuant to Order made Thursday, March 23, 1995.