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| 44th PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION | |
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JournalsNo. 378 (Unrevised) Thursday, November 28, 2024 10:00 a.m. |
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| Prayer |
| Daily Routine Of Business |
Tabling of Documents |
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Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Lamoureux (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid before the House, — Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions: |
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— No. 441-02709 concerning fisheries; |
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— No. 441-02710 concerning employment and labour. |
Motions |
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Mr. Lamoureux (Winnipeg North), seconded by Mr. McDonald (Avalon), moved, — That the House do now proceed to the orders of the day. |
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The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division: |
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| (Division No. 898 -- Vote no 898) | |
| YEAS: 175, NAYS: 145 |
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YEAS -- POUR Alghabra Dhaliwal Kayabaga O'Regan Total: -- 175 |
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NAYS -- CONTRE Aboultaif Dreeshen Lewis (Haldimand—Norfolk) Schmale Total: -- 145 |
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PAIRED -- PAIRÉS Duncan (Etobicoke North) Plamondon Total: -- 2 |
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| Question of Privilege |
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The House resumed the adjourned debate on the motion of Mr. Scheer (Regina—Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Berthold (Mégantic—L'Érable), — That the government's failure of fully providing documents, as ordered by the House on June 10, 2024, be hereby referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs; |
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And on the amendment, as amended, of Mr. Berthold (Mégantic—L'Érable), seconded by Mr. Perkins (South Shore—St. Margarets), — That the motion be amended by adding the following: |
“provided that it be an instruction to the committee:
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(a) that the following witnesses be ordered to appear before the committee, separately, for two hours each:
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(i) the Minister of Innovation, Science and Industry,
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(ii) the Clerk of the Privy Council,
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(iii) the Privacy Commissioner of Canada, who respected the order of the House and deposited unredacted documents,
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(iv) Paul MacKinnon, the former Deputy Secretary to the Cabinet (Governance),
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(v) the Auditor General of Canada,
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(vi) the Commissioner of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police,
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(vii) the Deputy Minister of Innovation, Science and Economic Development Canada,
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(viii) the Law Clerk and Parliamentary Counsel of the House of Commons,
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(ix) the Acting President of Sustainable Development Technology Canada,
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(x) a panel consisting of the Board of Sustainable Development Technology Canada; and
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(b) that it report back to the House no later than the 30th sitting day following the adoption of this order.";
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And on the subamendment of Mr. Kelly (Calgary Rocky Ridge), seconded by Mr. Falk (Provencher), — That the amendment be amended by adding the following: |
“, except that the order for the committee to report back to the House within 30 sitting days shall be discharged if the Speaker has sooner laid upon the table a notice from the Law Clerk and Parliamentary Counsel confirming that all government institutions have fully complied with the order adopted on June 10, 2024, by depositing all of their responsive records in an unredacted form”.
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The debate continued. |
| Motions |
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Mr. van Koeverden (Milton), seconded by Mr. Lamoureux (Winnipeg North), moved, — That the debate be now adjourned. |
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The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division: |
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| (Division No. 899 -- Vote no 899) | |
| YEAS: 179, NAYS: 150 |
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YEAS -- POUR Alghabra Dhillon Kelloway Oliphant Total: -- 179 |
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NAYS -- CONTRE Aboultaif Dreeshen Lewis (Essex) Seeback Total: -- 150 |
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PAIRED -- PAIRÉS Duncan (Etobicoke North) Plamondon Total: -- 2 |
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| Question of Privilege |
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The House resumed the adjourned debate on the motion of Mr. Barrett (Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands and Rideau Lakes), seconded by Mr. McCauley (Edmonton West), — That the House, having considered the unanimous views of the Standing Committee on Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics, expressed in its 12th report, find Stephen Anderson to be in contempt for his failure to provide the information which the committee had ordered him to produce and, accordingly, order him to attend at the bar of this House, at the expiry of the time provided for Oral Questions on the next Wednesday the House sits which is at least one week following the adoption of this order, for the purposes of: |
(a) receiving an admonishment delivered by the Speaker;
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(b) delivering up the records referred to in the 12th report;
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(c) providing responses to the questions referred to in the 12th report; and
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(d) responding to supplementary questions arising from his responses to the questions referred to in the 12th report;
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provided that: |
(e) any records which Mr. Anderson produces shall stand referred to the Standing Committee on Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics;
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(f) the questioning shall be governed by the provisions of subparagraphs (b)(iv) and (v) of the order adopted on Monday, April 8, 2024, concerning the appearance at the bar of Kristian Firth, except that references to "Mr. Firth" be read as "Mr. Anderson"; and
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(g) it be an instruction to the Standing Committee on Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics to consider the records produced by Mr. Anderson and his testimony at the bar of the House and, if necessary, recommend further action;
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And on the amendment of Mr. Cooper (St. Albert—Edmonton), seconded by Mr. Doherty (Cariboo—Prince George), — That the motion be amended by deleting paragraph (f) and substituting the following: |
“(f) during Mr. Anderson’s appearance at the bar for the purpose of responding to questions, which shall be asked by members, with questions and answers being addressed through the Speaker,
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(i) during the first round of questioning, 10 minutes shall be allocated to a member from each recognized party in the following order: the official opposition, the Bloc Québécois, the New Democratic Party and the government party,
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(ii) during the second round of questioning, there shall be 13 periods of five minutes each for members from the recognized parties, who shall be recognized consistent with the proportions observed during Oral Questions, namely, and in the following order, five members of the official opposition, two members of the Bloc Québécois, two members of the New Democratic Party, one member of the government party, and three members of the official opposition, provided that the same member may be recognized more than once,
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(iii) during either round, members may be permitted to share their time with one or more members by so indicating to the Speaker,
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(iv) each of Mr. Anderson’s answers shall approximately reflect the time taken by the question which preceded it,
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(v) the Speaker may, at his discretion, suspend the sitting briefly during the questioning;
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(g) at the expiry of the time provided for questioning, and after Mr. Anderson has been excused from further attendance, the House shall resume consideration of the usual business of the House for a Wednesday; and”.
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The debate continued. |
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Mr. Brassard (Barrie—Innisfil), seconded by Mr. Cooper (St. Albert—Edmonton), moved the following subamendment, — That the amendment be amended by adding, in subparagraph (f)(i), the following: |
“followed by an additional 10 minutes which shall be allocated to the member for Edmonton Centre,”.
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Debate arose thereon. |
| Motions |
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Mr. van Koeverden (Milton), seconded by Mr. Lamoureux (Winnipeg North), moved, — That the debate be now adjourned. |
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The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division: |
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| YEAS: 179, NAYS: 150 |
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YEAS -- POUR Alghabra Dhillon Kelloway Oliphant Total: -- 179 |
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NAYS -- CONTRE Aboultaif Dreeshen Lewis (Essex) Seeback Total: -- 150 |
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PAIRED -- PAIRÉS Duncan (Etobicoke North) Plamondon Total: -- 2 |
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| Government Orders |
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Pursuant to Standing Order 57, Ms. Gould (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Ms. Bibeau (Minister of National Revenue), moved, — That, in relation to the consideration of Government Business No. 43, the debate not be further adjourned. |
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Pursuant to Standing Order 67.1, the House proceeded to the question period regarding the moving of the closure motion. |
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The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division: |
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| (Division No. 901 -- Vote no 901) | |
| YEAS: 177, NAYS: 148 |
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YEAS -- POUR Alghabra Dhillon Kelloway O'Connell Total: -- 177 |
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NAYS -- CONTRE Aboultaif Duncan (Stormont—Dundas—South Glengarry) Lewis (Essex) Schmale Total: -- 148 |
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PAIRED -- PAIRÉS Duncan (Etobicoke North) Plamondon Total: -- 2 |
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| Motions |
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By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That, notwithstanding any standing order, special order, or usual practice of the House, the House do now proceed to Statements by Members followed by Oral Questions, and that the usual allotment of time be afforded for each rubric. |
| Statements By Members |
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Pursuant to Standing Order 31, members made statements. |
| Oral Questions |
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Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions. |
| Government Orders |
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The House resumed consideration of the motion of Ms. Gould (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Hussen (Minister of International Development), — That, notwithstanding any standing order, special order, or usual practice of the House, the bill in the name of the Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance, entitled An Act respecting temporary cost of living relief (affordability), be disposed of as follows: |
(a) the bill be ordered for consideration at the second reading stage immediately after the adoption of this order;
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(b) when the House begins debate at the second reading stage of the bill, one member of each recognized party and a member of the Green Party may each speak at the said stage for not more than 10 minutes, followed by five minutes for questions and comments;
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(c) at the conclusion of the time provided for the debate or when no member wishes to speak, whichever is earlier, all questions necessary to dispose of the second reading stage of the bill be deemed put, a recorded division be deemed requested and the vote shall not be deferred;
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(d) if the bill is adopted at the second reading stage, it shall be deemed referred to a committee of the whole, deemed considered in committee of the whole, deemed reported without amendment, deemed concurred in at report stage, and deemed read a third time and passed;
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(e) during consideration of the bill, the House shall not adjourn, except pursuant to a motion moved by a minister of the Crown; and
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(f) no motion to adjourn the debate may be moved except by a minister of the Crown; (Government Business No. 43)
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And of the amendment of Ms. Larouche (Shefford), seconded by Mr. Ste-Marie (Joliette), — That the motion be amended by adding the following: |
“(g) it be an instruction to the Standing Committee on Finance that it study the subject matter of the bill and, for the purposes of this study, the Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance shall be ordered to appear before the committee, for at least three hours, at a date and time to be fixed by the Chair of the committee, but not later than Friday, December 13, 2024” .
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The debate continued. |
| Private Members' Business |
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At 5:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(6), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business. |
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The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Tochor (Saskatoon—University), seconded by Ms. Gladu (Sarnia—Lambton), — That Bill C-380, An Act to amend the Canadian Environmental Protection Act, 1999 (plastic manufactured items), be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development. |
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The debate continued. |
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The question was put on the motion and, pursuant to Standing Order 93(1), the recorded division was deferred until Wednesday, December 4, 2024, at the expiry of the time provided for Oral Questions. |
| Government Orders |
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At 6:08 p.m., by unanimous consent, the House resumed consideration of the motion of Ms. Gould (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Hussen (Minister of International Development); (Government Business No. 43) |
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And of the amendment of Ms. Larouche (Shefford), seconded by Mr. Ste-Marie (Joliette). |
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The debate continued. |
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At 8:18 p.m., pursuant to order made earlier today under the provisions of Standing Order 57, the Speaker interrupted the proceedings. |
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The question was put on the amendment and it was negatived on the following division: |
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| YEAS: 153, NAYS: 176 |
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YEAS -- POUR Aboultaif Dreeshen Lemire Sauvé Total: -- 153 |
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NAYS -- CONTRE Alghabra Dhaliwal Kayabaga Oliphant Total: -- 176 |
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PAIRED -- PAIRÉS Duncan (Etobicoke North) Plamondon Total: -- 2 |
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The question was put on the main motion and it was agreed to on the following division: |
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| (Division No. 903 -- Vote no 903) | |
| YEAS: 174, NAYS: 148 |
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YEAS -- POUR Alghabra Dhillon Kelloway O'Connell Total: -- 174 |
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NAYS -- CONTRE Aboultaif Dreeshen Lemire Savard-Tremblay Total: -- 148 |
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PAIRED -- PAIRÉS Duncan (Etobicoke North) Plamondon Total: -- 2 |
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Pursuant to order made earlier today, the order was read for the second reading and reference to a committee of the whole of Bill C-78, An Act respecting temporary cost of living relief (affordability). |
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Mr. Anandasangaree (Minister of Crown-Indigenous Relations) for Ms. Freeland (Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance), seconded by Ms. Bibeau (Minister of National Revenue), moved, — That the bill be now read a second time and referred to a committee of the whole. |
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Debate arose thereon. |
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At 10:39 p.m., pursuant to order made earlier today, the Speaker interrupted the proceedings. |
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The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division: |
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| YEAS: 176, NAYS: 151 |
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YEAS -- POUR Alghabra Dhillon Kelloway O'Connell Total: -- 176 |
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NAYS -- CONTRE Aboultaif Dreeshen Leslie Scheer Total: -- 151 |
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PAIRED -- PAIRÉS Duncan (Etobicoke North) Plamondon Total: -- 2 |
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Accordingly, pursuant to order made earlier today, Bill C-78, An Act respecting temporary cost of living relief (affordability), was read the second time and referred to a committee of the whole, deemed considered in committee of the whole, deemed reported without amendment, deemed concurred in at report stage, and deemed read a third time and passed. |
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| Motions |
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Pursuant to order made Wednesday, February 28, 2024, Ms. Gould (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Ms. Joly (Ahuntsic-Cartierville), moved, — That this House do now adjourn. |
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Pursuant to order made Wednesday, February 28, 2024, the motion was deemed adopted. |
| Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House |
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Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid before the House as follows: |
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— by Mr. MacAulay (Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food) — Report of the Canadian Dairy Commission for the dairy year ending July 31, 2024, together with the Auditor General's Report, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S., 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 150(1). — Sessional Paper No. 8560-441-90-04. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food) |
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— by Mr. Virani (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada) — Charter Statement — Bill C-78, An Act respecting temporary cost of living relief (affordability), pursuant to the Department of Justice Act, R.S., 1985, c. J-2, sbs. 4.2(1). — Sessional Paper No. 8560-441-1232-76. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Finance) |
| Petitions Filed with the Clerk of the House |
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Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified by the Clerk of Petitions were filed as follows: |
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— by Mr. Morrison (Kootenay—Columbia), one concerning transportation (No. 441-02906) and one concerning the environment (No. 441-02907). |
| Adjournment |
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Accordingly, at 11:24 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1). |