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| 44th PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION | |
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JournalsNo. 377 (Unrevised) Wednesday, November 27, 2024 2:00 p.m. |
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| Prayer |
| National Anthem |
| Statements By Members |
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Pursuant to Standing Order 31, members made statements. |
| Oral Questions |
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Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions. |
| Deferred Recorded Divisions |
Concurrence in Committee Reports |
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Pursuant to Standing Order 66(2), the House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Boulerice (Rosemont—La Petite-Patrie), seconded by Mr. Julian (New Westminster—Burnaby), — That the 12th report of the Standing Committee on Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities, presented on Thursday, October 26, 2023, be concurred in; (Concurrence in Committee Reports No. 69) |
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And of the amendment of Ms. Zarrillo (Port Moody—Coquitlam), seconded by Mr. Boulerice (Rosemont—La Petite-Patrie), — That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word “That” and substituting the following: |
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“the 12th report of the Standing Committee on Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities, presented on Thursday, October 26, 2023, be not now concurred in, but that it be recommitted to the committee for further consideration, with a view to consider the role of financialized landlords on rising costs in Canada’s rental market, including how the use of algorithmic pricing tools is contributing to rent increases and how pervasive this practice is across the Canadian rental market.”;
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The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the subamendment of Mr. Gerretsen (Kingston and the Islands), seconded by Mrs. Atwin (Fredericton), — That the amendment be amended by adding, after the word “role”, the words “and impacts”. |
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The question was put on the subamendment and it was agreed to on the following division: |
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| (Division No. 895 -- Vote no 895) | |
| YEAS: 181, NAYS: 149 |
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YEAS -- POUR Alghabra Dhillon Kelloway Oliphant Total: -- 181 |
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NAYS -- CONTRE Aboultaif Doherty Lehoux Scheer Total: -- 149 |
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PAIRED -- PAIRÉS Duncan (Etobicoke North) Plamondon Total: -- 2 |
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Pursuant to Standing Order 66(2), the House proceeded to the putting of the question on the amendment, as amended, of Ms. Zarrillo (Port Moody—Coquitlam), seconded by Mr. Boulerice (Rosemont—La Petite-Patrie), — That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word “That” and substituting the following: |
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“the 12th report of the Standing Committee on Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities, presented on Thursday, October 26, 2023, be not now concurred in, but that it be recommitted to the committee for further consideration, with a view to consider the role and impacts of financialized landlords on rising costs in Canada’s rental market, including how the use of algorithmic pricing tools is contributing to rent increases and how pervasive this practice is across the Canadian rental market.”
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The question was put on the amendment, as amended, and it was negatived on the following division: |
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| (Division No. 896 -- Vote no 896) | |
| YEAS: 26, NAYS: 302 |
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YEAS -- POUR Angus Collins (Victoria) Hughes Mathyssen Total: -- 26 |
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NAYS -- CONTRE Aboultaif Drouin Larouche Ruff Total: -- 302 |
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PAIRED -- PAIRÉS Duncan (Etobicoke North) Plamondon Total: -- 2 |
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Pursuant to Standing Order 66(2), the question was put on the main motion and it was agreed to on the following division: |
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| (Division No. 897 -- Vote no 897) | |
| YEAS: 184, NAYS: 145 |
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YEAS -- POUR Alghabra Dhillon Lalonde Robillard Total: -- 184 |
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NAYS -- CONTRE Aboultaif Doherty Kusie Rempel Garner Total: -- 145 |
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PAIRED -- PAIRÉS Duncan (Etobicoke North) Plamondon Total: -- 2 |
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| Royal Assent |
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A message was received informing the Commons that on November 27, 2024, at 10:00 a.m., Her Excellency the Governor General signified royal assent by written declaration to the following bill: |
Bill S-13, An Act to amend the Interpretation Act and to make related amendments to other Acts — Chapter No. 30.
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| Daily Routine Of Business |
Introduction of Government Bills |
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Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Beech (Minister of Citizens’ Services) for Ms. Freeland (Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance), seconded by Ms. Khera (Minister of Diversity, Inclusion and Persons with Disabilities), Bill C-78, An Act respecting temporary cost of living relief (affordability), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. |
Presenting Reports from Interparliamentary Delegations |
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Pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), Ms. Fry (Vancouver Centre) presented the report of the Canadian Delegation to the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe Parliamentary Assembly (OSCE), 23rd Winter Meeting, Vienna, Austria, from February 22 to 23, 2024. — Sessional Paper No. 8565-441-61-09. |
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Pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), Ms. Fry (Vancouver Centre) presented the report of the Canadian Delegation to the OSCE Parliamentary Assembly, 31st Annual Session, Bucharest, Romania, from June 29 to July 3, 2024. — Sessional Paper No. 8565-441-61-10. |
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Pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), Mr. Sheehan (Sault Ste. Marie) presented the report of the Canada-Japan Inter-Parliamentary Group, 22nd Bilateral Meeting, Tokyo and Tohoku, Japan, from May 13 to 17, 2024. — Sessional Paper No. 8565-441-57-08. |
Presenting Reports from Committees |
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Ms. Fry (Vancouver Centre), from the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage, presented the 14th report of the committee, "Harms caused by illegal sexually explicit material online". — Sessional Paper No. 8510-441-512. |
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Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the committee requested that the government table a comprehensive response. |
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A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 114, 124, 125, 130 and 133) was tabled. |
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Ms. Fry (Vancouver Centre), from the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage, presented the 15th report of the committee, "The holding of a National Forum on the Media". — Sessional Paper No. 8510-441-513. |
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Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the committee requested that the government table a comprehensive response. |
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A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 110 to 112, 126, 134 and 136) was tabled. |
Introduction of Private Members' Bills |
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Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. MacGregor (Cowichan—Malahat—Langford), seconded by Mr. Green (Hamilton Centre), Bill C-421, An Act to establish a national food cooperative strategy, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. |
Presenting Petitions |
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Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows: |
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— by Mrs. Zahid (Scarborough Centre), one concerning foreign affairs (No. 441-02896); |
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— by Ms. Kwan (Vancouver East), one concerning foreign affairs (No. 441-02897); |
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— by Ms. May (Saanich—Gulf Islands), one concerning foreign affairs (No. 441-02898); |
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— by Mr. Casey (Charlottetown), one concerning food and drink (No. 441-02899) and one concerning social affairs and equality (No. 441-02900); |
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— by Mr. Genuis (Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan), three concerning foreign affairs (Nos. 441-02901, 441-02903 and 441-02904) and one concerning taxation (No. 441-02902); |
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— by Mr. Reid (Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston), one concerning foreign affairs (No. 441-02905). |
| Question of Privilege |
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The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Scheer (Regina—Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Berthold (Mégantic—L'Érable), — That the government's failure of fully providing documents, as ordered by the House on June 10, 2024, be hereby referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs; |
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And of the amendment, as amended, of Mr. Berthold (Mégantic—L'Érable), seconded by Mr. Perkins (South Shore—St. Margarets), — That the motion be amended by adding the following: |
“provided that it be an instruction to the committee:
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(a) that the following witnesses be ordered to appear before the committee, separately, for two hours each:
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(i) the Minister of Innovation, Science and Industry,
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(ii) the Clerk of the Privy Council,
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(iii) the Privacy Commissioner of Canada, who respected the order of the House and deposited unredacted documents,
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(iv) Paul MacKinnon, the former Deputy Secretary to the Cabinet (Governance),
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(v) the Auditor General of Canada,
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(vi) the Commissioner of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police,
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(vii) the Deputy Minister of Innovation, Science and Economic Development Canada,
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(viii) the Law Clerk and Parliamentary Counsel of the House of Commons,
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(ix) the Acting President of Sustainable Development Technology Canada,
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(x) a panel consisting of the Board of Sustainable Development Technology Canada; and
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(b) that it report back to the House no later than the 30th sitting day following the adoption of this order.";
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And of the subamendment of Mr. Kelly (Calgary Rocky Ridge), seconded by Mr. Falk (Provencher), — That the amendment be amended by adding the following: |
“, except that the order for the committee to report back to the House within 30 sitting days shall be discharged if the Speaker has sooner laid upon the table a notice from the Law Clerk and Parliamentary Counsel confirming that all government institutions have fully complied with the order adopted on June 10, 2024, by depositing all of their responsive records in an unredacted form”.
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The debate continued. |
| Motions |
| Question of Privilege |
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The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Scheer (Regina—Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Berthold (Mégantic—L'Érable); |
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And of the amendment, as amended, of Mr. Berthold (Mégantic—L'Érable), seconded by Mr. Perkins (South Shore—St. Margarets); |
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And of the subamendment of Mr. Kelly (Calgary Rocky Ridge), seconded by Mr. Falk (Provencher). |
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The debate continued. |
| Requests for the Extension of Sitting Hours |
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Pursuant to order made Wednesday, February 28, 2024, Ms. Gould (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) requested that the ordinary hour of daily adjournment on Thursday, November 28, 2024, be 12:00 a.m. and this request was deemed adopted. |
| Question of Privilege |
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The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Scheer (Regina—Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Berthold (Mégantic—L'Érable); |
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And of the amendment, as amended, of Mr. Berthold (Mégantic—L'Érable), seconded by Mr. Perkins (South Shore—St. Margarets); |
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And of the subamendment of Mr. Kelly (Calgary Rocky Ridge), seconded by Mr. Falk (Provencher). |
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The debate continued. |
| Motions |
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Pursuant to order made Wednesday, February 28, 2024, Ms. Gould (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Hussen (York South—Weston), moved, — That the debate be now adjourned. |
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Pursuant to order made Wednesday, February 28, 2024, the motion was deemed adopted. |
| Question of Privilege |
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The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Barrett (Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands and Rideau Lakes), seconded by Mr. McCauley (Edmonton West), — That the House, having considered the unanimous views of the Standing Committee on Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics, expressed in its 12th report, find Stephen Anderson to be in contempt for his failure to provide the information which the committee had ordered him to produce and, accordingly, order him to attend at the bar of this House, at the expiry of the time provided for Oral Questions on the next Wednesday the House sits which is at least one week following the adoption of this order, for the purposes of: |
(a) receiving an admonishment delivered by the Speaker;
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(b) delivering up the records referred to in the 12th report;
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(c) providing responses to the questions referred to in the 12th report; and
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(d) responding to supplementary questions arising from his responses to the questions referred to in the 12th report;
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provided that: |
(e) any records which Mr. Anderson produces shall stand referred to the Standing Committee on Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics;
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(f) the questioning shall be governed by the provisions of subparagraphs (b)(iv) and (v) of the order adopted on Monday, April 8, 2024, concerning the appearance at the bar of Kristian Firth, except that references to "Mr. Firth" be read as "Mr. Anderson"; and
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(g) it be an instruction to the Standing Committee on Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics to consider the records produced by Mr. Anderson and his testimony at the bar of the House and, if necessary, recommend further action;
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And of the amendment of Mr. Cooper (St. Albert—Edmonton), seconded by Mr. Doherty (Cariboo—Prince George), — That the motion be amended by deleting paragraph (f) and substituting the following: |
“(f) during Mr. Anderson’s appearance at the bar for the purpose of responding to questions, which shall be asked by members, with questions and answers being addressed through the Speaker,
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(i) during the first round of questioning, 10 minutes shall be allocated to a member from each recognized party in the following order: the official opposition, the Bloc Québécois, the New Democratic Party and the government party,
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(ii) during the second round of questioning, there shall be 13 periods of five minutes each for members from the recognized parties, who shall be recognized consistent with the proportions observed during Oral Questions, namely, and in the following order, five members of the official opposition, two members of the Bloc Québécois, two members of the New Democratic Party, one member of the government party, and three members of the official opposition, provided that the same member may be recognized more than once,
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(iii) during either round, members may be permitted to share their time with one or more members by so indicating to the Speaker,
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(iv) each of Mr. Anderson’s answers shall approximately reflect the time taken by the question which preceded it,
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(v) the Speaker may, at his discretion, suspend the sitting briefly during the questioning;
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(g) at the expiry of the time provided for questioning, and after Mr. Anderson has been excused from further attendance, the House shall resume consideration of the usual business of the House for a Wednesday; and”.
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The debate continued. |
| Motions |
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Pursuant to order made Wednesday, February 28, 2024, Ms. Gould (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Hussen (York South—Weston), moved, — That the debate be now adjourned. |
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Pursuant to order made Wednesday, February 28, 2024, the motion was deemed adopted. |
| Government Orders |
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Ms. Gould (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Hussen (Minister of International Development), moved, — That, notwithstanding any standing order, special order, or usual practice of the House, the bill in the name of the Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance, entitled An Act respecting temporary cost of living relief (affordability), be disposed of as follows: |
(a) the bill be ordered for consideration at the second reading stage immediately after the adoption of this order;
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(b) when the House begins debate at the second reading stage of the bill, one member of each recognized party and a member of the Green Party may each speak at the said stage for not more than 10 minutes, followed by five minutes for questions and comments;
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(c) at the conclusion of the time provided for the debate or when no member wishes to speak, whichever is earlier, all questions necessary to dispose of the second reading stage of the bill be deemed put, a recorded division be deemed requested and the vote shall not be deferred;
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(d) if the bill is adopted at the second reading stage, it shall be deemed referred to a committee of the whole, deemed considered in committee of the whole, deemed reported without amendment, deemed concurred in at report stage, and deemed read a third time and passed;
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(e) during consideration of the bill, the House shall not adjourn, except pursuant to a motion moved by a minister of the Crown; and
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(f) no motion to adjourn the debate may be moved except by a minister of the Crown. (Government Business No. 43)
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Debate arose thereon. |
| Notices of Motions |
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Ms. Gould (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) gave notice of the intention to move at the next sitting of the House, pursuant to Standing Order 57, that, in relation to the consideration of Government Business No. 43, the debate not be further adjourned. |
| Government Orders |
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The House resumed consideration of the motion of Ms. Gould (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Hussen (Minister of International Development). (Government Business No. 43) |
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The debate continued. |
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Ms. Larouche (Shefford), seconded by Mr. Ste-Marie (Joliette), moved the following amendment, — That the motion be amended by adding the following: |
“(g) it be an instruction to the Standing Committee on Finance that it study the subject-matter of the bill and, for the purposes of this study, the Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance shall be ordered to appear before the committee, for at least three hours, at a date and time to be fixed by the Chair of the committee, but not later than Friday, December 13, 2024.” .
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Debate arose thereon. |
| Motions |
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Pursuant to order made Wednesday, February 28, 2024, Ms. Khera (Minister of Diversity, Inclusion and Persons with Disabilities), seconded by Mr. Beech (Burnaby North—Seymour), moved, — That this House do now adjourn. |
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Pursuant to order made Wednesday, February 28, 2024, the motion was deemed adopted. |
| Adjournment |
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Accordingly, at 8:38 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1). |