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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
36th PARLIAMENT, 2nd SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 129

Monday, October 16, 2000

11:00 a.m.



PRAYERS

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 11:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(6), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

Mr. Calder (Dufferin -- Peel -- Wellington -- Grey), seconded by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), moved, -- That the government consider the advisability of increasing the pension accrual rate for firefighters to allow them to retire with adequate financial provisions for their retirement. (Private Members' Business M-418)

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 93, the Order was dropped to the bottom of the order of precedence on the Order Paper.

TABLING OF DOCUMENTS

The Speaker laid upon the Table, -- Report of the Information Commissioner for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2000, pursuant to the Access to Information Act, R.S. 1985, c. A-1, s. 38. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-362-734-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The Order was read for the consideration of the Business of Supply.

Mr. Duceppe (Laurier -- Sainte-Marie), seconded by Mrs. Tremblay (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis), moved, -- That this House work to provide the means needed to fight poverty and violence against women as demanded by the World March of Women, particularly in the areas of income protection, health, international aid, violence and wage parity, so as to ensure a fairer distribution of wealth between women and men.

Debate arose thereon.

Ms. St-Hilaire (Longueuil), seconded by Mr. Bigras (Rosemont-Petite Patrie), moved the following amendment, -- That the motion be amended by adding after the words "That this House" the following:

    "immediately"

Debate arose thereon.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

-- No. 362-1100 concerning gasoline pricing. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-362-86-02;

-- No. 362-1129 concerning Chechnya. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-362-117-01;

-- Nos. 362-1316, 362-1324 and 362-1569 concerning research and development. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-362-118-01;

-- No. 362-1379 concerning aboriginal affairs. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-362-35-07;

-- Nos. 362-1479, 362-1525 and 362-1625 concerning abortion. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-362-8-09;

-- No. 362-1617 concerning nudity. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-362-119-01.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. McKay (Scarborough East), seconded by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), Bill C-506, An Act to amend the Hazardous Products Act (fire-safe cigarettes), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

First Reading of Senate Public Bills

Pursuant to Standing Order 69(2), on motion of Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport) for Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Public Works and Government Services), seconded by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of Human Resources Development), Bill S-25, An Act to amend the Defence Production Act, was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Order 69(2), on motion of Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport) for Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), seconded by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of Human Resources Development), Bill S-26, An Act to repeal An Act to incorporate the Western Canada Telephone Company, was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Adams (Peterborough), three concerning health care services (Nos. 362-1729 to 362-1731);

-- by Mr. Robinson (Burnaby -- Douglas), one concerning health care services (No. 362-1732);

-- by Mr. Harvard (Charleswood St. James -- Assiniboia), one concerning immigration (No. 362-1733);

-- by Ms. Alarie (Louis-Hébert), one concerning oil products (No. 362-1734) and three concerning the labelling of food products (Nos. 362-1735 to 362-1737);

-- by Mr. Riis (Kamloops, Thompson and Highland Valleys), one concerning health care services (No. 362-1738), one concerning the highway system (No. 362-1739) and one concerning child poverty (No. 362-1740);

-- by Mr. Knutson (Elgin -- Middlesex -- London), one concerning the Canada Post Corporation (No. 362-1741);

-- by Mr. Mancini (Sydney -- Victoria), six concerning health care services (Nos. 362-1742 to 362-1747) and one concerning oil products (No. 362-1748);

-- by Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), one concerning health care services (No. 362-1749) and one concerning the criminal justice system (No. 362-1750);

-- by Mr. Martin (Winnipeg Centre), one concerning oil products (No. 362-1751).

Questions on Order Paper

Pursuant to Standing Order 39(7), the following question was made an Order for Return:

    Q-40 -- Ms. Lill (Dartmouth) -- What funds, grants, loans and loan guarantees has the government issued in the constituency of Dartmouth for each of the following fiscal years: (a) 1993-1994; (b) 1994-1995; (c) 1995-1996; (d) 1996-1997; (e) 1997-1998; (f) 1998-1999; and in each case, where applicable: (i) what was the department or agency responsible; (ii) what was the program under which the payment was made; (iii) what were the names of the recipients if they were groups or organizations; (iv) what was the monetary value of the payment made; and (v) what was the percentage of program funding covered by the payment received?

Mr. Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the Return to this Order. -- Sessional Paper No. 8555-362-40.


Pursuant to Standing Order 39(7), the following question was made an Order for Return:

    Q-69 -- Mr. Lowther (Calgary Centre) -- Could the government provide a complete accounting of all Canadian taxpayer dollars transferred to, or in any way spent on, international organizations and agencies (including United Nations agencies and all other multilateral institutions) by any channel during the fiscal year 1998-99, listing clearly each item of expenditure by both the disbursing department and by the recipient organization or agency?

Mr. Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the Return to this Order. -- Sessional Paper No. 8555-362-69.


Pursuant to Standing Order 39(7), the following question was made an Order for Return:

    Q-78 -- Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton) -- What funds, grants, loans and loan guarantees has the government issued in the constituency of Bras d'Or -- Cape Breton for each of the following fiscal years: (a) 1993-1994, (b) 1994-1995, (c) 1995-1996, (d) 1996-1997, (e) 1997-1998, and (f) 1998-1999, and in each case, where applicable: (i) what was the department or agency responsible; (ii) what was the program under which the payment was made; (iii) what were the names of the recipients, if they were groups or organizations; (iv) what was the monetary value of the payment made; and (v) what was the percentage of program funding covered by the payment received?

Mr. Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the Return to this Order. -- Sessional Paper No. 8555-362-78.


Pursuant to Standing Order 39(7), the following question was made an Order for Return:

    Q-88 -- Mr. Pankiw (Saskatoon -- Humboldt) -- With respect to the Canada Foundation for Innovation and its Board of Directors, what has the government through Industry Canada determined to be: (a) the names of those organizations and/or persons represented on the Foundation's Board of Directors; (b) the criterion for being selected to the Board; and (c) the duration of service for Board members.

Mr. Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the Return to this Order. -- Sessional Paper No. 8555-362-88.


Pursuant to Standing Order 39(7), the following question was made an Order for Return:

    Q-95 -- Mr. Pankiw (Saskatoon -- Humboldt) -- With respect to the Canada Research Chairs initiative: (a) what is the total number of applications received to date from each Canadian university; (b) what is the formula to be used for the granting of program money to Canadian universities; (c) what is the amount of money to be given to each university in the upcoming fiscal year; and (d) in each case, which granting council will award the money?

Mr. Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the Return to this Order. -- Sessional Paper No. 8555-362-95.


Pursuant to Standing Order 39(7), the following question was made an Order for Return:

    Q-96 -- Mr. Earle (Halifax West) -- What funds, grants, loans and loan guarantees has the federal government issued in the constituency of Halifax West from June 2, 1998 to June 1, 1999 and, in each case where applicable: (a) the department or agency responsible; (b) the program under which the payment was made; (c) the names of the recipients, if they were groups or organizations; (d) the monetary value of the payment made; and (e) the percentage of program funding covered by the payment received?

Mr. Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the Return to this Order. -- Sessional Paper No. 8555-362-96.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Duceppe (Laurier -- Sainte-Marie), seconded by Ms. Tremblay (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis), in relation to the Business of Supply;

And of the amendment of Ms. St-Hilaire (Longueuil), seconded by Mr. Bigras (Rosemont -- Petite-Patrie).

The debate continued.

At 6:15 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 81(16), the Speaker interrupted the proceedings.

The question was put on the amendment and, pursuant to Standing Order 45, the recorded division was deferred until Tuesday, October 17, 2000, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:

-- by the Speaker -- Proceedings of the Royal Society of Canada for 1998, together with the Transactions for 1999, the Calendar for 1999-2000 and the Report of Council for 1998-99, pursuant to the Act to Incorporate the Royal Society of Canada, S. C. 1883, c. 46, s. 9. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-362-233-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage)

-- by Mr. Axworthy (Minister of Foreign Affairs) -- Report of the Roosevelt Campobello International Park Commission, together with the Auditors' Report, for the year 1999, pursuant to the Roosevelt Campobello International Park Commission Act, S. C. 1964-65, c. 19, s. 7. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-362-229-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade)

-- by Mr. Baker (Minister of Veterans Affairs) -- Statement on the operations of the Returned Soldiers' Insurance Act for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2000, pursuant to the Act to amend the Returned Soldiers' Insurance Act, S.C. 1951, c. 59, s. 12. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-362-228-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on National Defence and Veterans Affairs)

-- by Mr. Baker (Minister of Veterans Affairs) -- Statement on the operations of the Veterans Insurance Act for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2000, pursuant to the Veterans Insurance Act, R.S. 1970, c. V-3, sbs. 18(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-362-254-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on National Defence and Veterans Affairs)

-- by Ms. Bradshaw (Minister of Labour) -- Report of the Canadian Centre for Occupational Health and Safety, together with the Auditor General's report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2000, pursuant to the Canadian Centre for Occupational Health and Safety Act, R.S. 1985, c. C-13, sbs. 26(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-362-38-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities)

-- by Ms. Bradshaw (Minister of Labour) -- Reports of the Canada Industrial Relations Board for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2000, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-362-733-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

-- by Ms. Bradshaw (Minister of Labour) -- Reports of the Merchant Seamen Compensation Board for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2000, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-362-850-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

-- by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage) -- Management Plan for Waterton Lakes National Park of Canada, dated May 2000, pursuant to An Act to amend the National Parks Act and to amend An Act to amend the National Parks Act, S.C. 1988, c. 48, s. 4. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-362-334-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage)

-- by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage) -- Management Plan for Kootenay National Park of Canada, dated May 2000, pursuant to An Act to amend the National Parks Act and to amend An Act to amend the National Parks Act, S.C. 1988, c. 48, s. 4. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-362-738-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage)

-- by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage) -- Management Plan for Jasper National Park of Canada, dated May 2000, pursuant to An Act to amend the National Parks Act and to amend An Act to amend the National Parks Act, S.C. 1988, c. 48, s. 4. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-362-739-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage)

-- by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage) -- Management Plan for Yoho National Park of Canada, dated May 2000, pursuant to An Act to amend the National Parks Act and to amend An Act to amend the National Parks Act, S.C. 1988, c. 48, s. 4. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-362-740-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage)

-- by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage) -- Corporate Plan, together with a summary, for the period 2000-01 to 2004-05 of the Parks Canada Agency, pursuant to the Parks Canada Agency Act, S. C. 1998, c. 31, sbs. 33(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8562-362-853-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage)

-- by Mr. Dhaliwal (Minister of Fisheries and Oceans) -- Summaries of the Corporate Plan for the period 2000-01 to 2004-05 and of the Operating and Capital Budgets for 2000- 01 of the Freshwater Fish Marketing Corporation, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R. S. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 125(4). -- Sessional Paper No. 8562-362-826-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans)

-- by Mr. Eggleton (Minister of National Defence) -- Reports of the Canadian Forces Grievance Board for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2000, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-362-717-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

-- by Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Public Works and Government Services) -- Response of the government, pursuant to Standing Order 109, to the Tenth Report of the Standing Committee on Public Accounts, "Chapter 18 of the September 1999 Report and Chapter 27 of the November 1999 Report of the Auditor General of Canada" (Sessional Paper No. 8510- 362-59), presented in the House on Wednesday, May 17, 2000. -- Sessional Paper No. 8512-362-59-01.

-- by Mr. Goodale (Minister of Natural Resources) -- Report of Atomic Energy of Canada Limited for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2000, pursuant to the Alternative Fuels Act, S.C. 1995, c. 20, s. 8. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560- 362-649-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

-- by Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry) -- Report of the Standards Council of Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2000, pursuant to the Alternative Fuels Act, S.C. 1995, c. 20, s. 8. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-362-122-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

-- by Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry) -- Report of the Business Development Bank of Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2000, pursuant to the Alternative Fuels Act, S.C. 1995, c. 20, s. 8. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560- 362-152-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

-- by Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry) -- Report on the administration of the Canada Small Business Financing Act for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2000, pursuant to the Canada Small Business Financing Act, S. C. 1998, c. 36, s. 20. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-362-240-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Industry)

-- by Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry) -- Report of the Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council of Canada, together with the Auditor General's report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2000, pursuant to the Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council Act, R. S. 1985, c. N-21, s. 18. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-362-500-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Industry)

-- by Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry) -- Report of the Copyright Board for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2000, pursuant to the Act to amend the Copyright Act and to amend other Acts in consequence thereof, R.S. 1985, c. 10 (4th Supp.), s. 12. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-362-555-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Industry)

-- by Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry) -- Reports of the Department of Industry for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2000, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-362-723-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

-- by Ms. McLellan (Minister of Justice) -- Reports of the Department of Justice for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2000, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-362-676-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

-- by Ms. McLellan (Minister of Justice) -- Reports of the Canadian Human Rights Commission for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2000, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-362-680-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

-- by Mr. Nault (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development) -- Statutes of Nunavut for the Third Session of the First Legislative Assembly, pursuant to the Nunavut Act, R.S. 1999, c. N-28, sbs. 28(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-362-300-03. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development)

-- by Mr. Nault (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development) -- Reports of the Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2000, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-362-648-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

-- by Mr. Rock (Minister of Health) -- Response of the goverment, pursuant to Standing Order 109, to the First Report of the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development, "Pesticides: Making the Right Choice for the Protection of Health and the Environment" (Sessional Paper No. 8510-362-52), presented in the House on Tuesday, May 16, 2000. -- Sessional Paper No. 8512-362- 52-01.

-- by Mr. Rock (Minister of Health) -- Response of the government, pursuant to Standing Order 109, to the Ninth Report of the Standing Committee on Public Accounts, "Chapter 14 and 15 of the September 1999 Report of the Auditor General of Canada" (Sessional Paper No. 8510-362- 58), presented in the House on Wednesday, May 17, 2000. -- Sessional Paper No. 8512-362-58-01.

-- by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of Human Resources Development) -- Copy of Order in Council P.C. 2000-1351, dated August 23, 2000, concerning the Interim Agreement on Social Security between the Government of Canada and the Government of Israel, signed on April 9, 2000, pursuant to the Old Age Security Act, R.S. 1985, c. O-9, sbs. 42(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8532-362-6. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities)

PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION

At 6:16 p.m., by unanimous consent, the question "That this House do now adjourn" was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

ADJOURNMENT

At 6:24 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).