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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
35TH PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 127

Monday, November 21, 1994

11:00 a.m.



PRAYERS

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The Order was read for the consideration at report stage of Bill C-48, An Act to establish the Department of Natural Resources and to amend related Acts, as reported by the Standing Committee on Natural Resources with amendments.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(5), the Speaker selected and grouped for debate the following motions:

    Group No. 1 -- Motion No. 1.
    Group No. 2 -- Motion No. 3.
    Group No. 3 -- Motions Nos. 4, 5 and 6.

Group No. 1

Mr. Caccia (Davenport), seconded by Mr. Assadourian (Don Valley North), moved Motion No. 1, -- That Bill C-48, in new Clause 6(a), be amended by deleting the words ``integrated management and".

Debate arose thereon.

Ms. McLellan (Minister of Natural Resources), seconded by Mr. Tobin (Minister of Fisheries and Oceans), moved the following amendment to Motion No. 1, -- That Motion No. 1 be amended by adding the following:

    ``; and
    (b) by adding after the word ``resources" the following:
      ``and the integrated management thereof"."

Debate arose thereon.

The question was put on the amendment to Motion No. 1 and it was agreed to.

The House resumed consideration of Motion No. 1, as amended, -- That Bill C-48, in new Clause 6(a), be amended:

    (a) by deleting the words ``integrated management and"; and
    (b) by adding after the word ``resources" the following:
      ``and the integrated management thereof".

The question was put on Motion No. 1, as amended, and it was agreed to.

Group No. 2

Mr. Canuel (Matapédia -- Matane), seconded by Mr. Deshaies (Abitibi), moved Motion No. 3, -- That Bill C-48, in Clause 7, be amended by replacing lines 27 to 35, on page 3, with the following:

      ``7. The Minister shall cause to be laid before each House of Parliament, not later than the fifth sitting day of that House after January 31 next following the end of each fiscal year, a report showing the operations of the Department of Natural Resources for that fiscal year."

Debate arose thereon.

The question was put on Motion No. 3 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

Group No. 3

Mr. Deshaies (Abitibi), seconded by Mr. Canuel (Matapédia -- Matane), moved Motion No. 4, -- That Bill C-48, in Clause 27, be amended by replacing lines 13 and 14, on page 9, with the following:

    ``government of any province for forest protection and manage-".

Mr. Canuel (Matapédia -- Matane), seconded by Mr. Deshaies (Abitibi) moved Motion No. 5, -- That Bill C-48, in Clause 35, be amended by replacing line 39, on page 11, with the following:

    ``ter may, at the request of all the provinces".

Mr. Deshaies (Abitibi), seconded by Mr. Canuel (Matapédia -- Matane), moved Motion No. 6, -- That Bill C-48, in Clause 35, be amended by replacing lines 25 to 33, on page 12, with the following:

    ``plans under subsection (1), the Minister
      (a) shall cooperate with the provinces;
      (b) may enter into agreements with the government of any province or any department, branch or agency of such a government;
      (c) with the agreement of the concerned province, may make grants and contributions and".

Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 3.

The question was put on Motion No. 4 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division, which will also apply to Motion No. 6, was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 5 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions at report stage of Bill C-48, An Act to establish the Department of Natural Resources and to amend related Acts.

Pursuant to Standing Order 45(5)(a), the deferred recorded divisions were further deferred until Tuesday, November 22, 1994, at 5:30 p.m.

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Dupuy (Minister of Canadian Heritage), seconded by Mr. Gerrard (Secretary of State (Science, Research and Development)), -- That Bill C-53, An Act to establish the Department of Canadian Heritage and to amend and repeal certain other Acts, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage.

The debate continued.

The question was put on the motion and, pursuant to Standing Order 45(5)(a), the recorded division was deferred until Tuesday, November 22, 1994, at 5:30 p.m.

At 1:16 p.m., by unanimous consent, the sitting was suspended.

At 2:00 p.m., the sitting resumed.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Presenting Reports from Committees

Ms. Catterall (Ottawa West), from the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented the 49th Report of the Committee, which was as follows:

      Pursuant to Standing Order 104, the Committee recommends that the following Member be added to the list of Associate Members of the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs:
      Robinson

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence (Issue No. 31, which includes this Report) was tabled.

Motions

By unanimous consent, Ms. Catterall (Ottawa West), seconded by Mr. Mifflin (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of National Defence and Minister of Veterans Affairs), moved, -- That the 49th Report of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented earlier today, be concurred in.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Richardson (Perth -- Wellington -- Waterloo), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-1335);

-- by Mr. Serré (Timiskaming -- French River), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-1336), one concerning abortion (No. 351-1337) and one concerning euthanasia (No. 351-1338);

-- by Mr. Williams (St. Albert), two concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (Nos. 351-1339 and 351-1340);

-- by Mr. Jordan (Leeds -- Grenville), one concerning euthanasia (No. 351-1341) and one concerning sexual assault (No. 351-1342);

-- by Mr. Benoit (Vegreville), two concerning euthanasia (Nos. 351-1343 and 351-1344) and one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-1345);

-- by Mr. Gilmour (Comox -- Alberni), three concerning euthanasia (Nos. 351-1346 to 351-1348);

-- by Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), one concerning the Divorce Act (No. 351-1349) and one concerning euthanasia (No. 351-1350).

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Axworthy (Minister of Human Resources Development), seconded by Ms. Copps (Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of the Environment), -- That this House take note of the progress made to date on the government's forthcoming reform of social security programs and of the views expressed by Canadians with regard to this reform. (Government Business No. 15)

The debate continued.

PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION

At 6:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question ``That this House do now adjourn" was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

ADJOURNMENT

At 6:36 p.m., the House adjourned until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).