MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS
THURSDAY, JUNE 22, 1995
(Meeting No. 83(a))
(Meeting No. 83(a))
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The Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs met at 12:30 o'clock p.m., this day, in the Dining Room of the Parliamentary Restaurant, the Chairman, Peter Milliken, presiding.
Members of the Committee present: Don Boudria, Marlene Catterall, Elwin Hermanson, François Langlois, Derek Lee, Gurbax Malhi, Ted McWhinney, Peter Milliken, Carolyn Parrish, Jerry Pickard and Jim Silye.
In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: James R. Robertson, Research Officer.
The Order of Reference from the House of Commons dated Wednesday, June 7, 1995, was read as follows:
ORDERED,--That, the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs be instructed to undertake a comprehensive review of the business of supply, with particular attention to the reform of the Estimates and the processes and mechanisms by which the House and its committees may consider and dispose of them; and
--That the Committee make a report thereon no later than December 1, 1995.
After debate, it was agreed,--That, a Sub-Committee on the Business of Supply be struck and composed of Marlene Catterall (Chair), Gaston Leroux, Gurbax Malhi and Jim Silye;
--That, the Sub-Committee have the power to report from time to time, to send for persons, papers and records, to sit while the House is sitting, to print from day to day such papers and evidence as may be ordered by the Sub-Committee.
It was agreed,--That, upon adoption by the House of a Report naming John Williams as associate member to the Committee, he will replace Jim Silye as member on the Sub-Committee on the Business of Supply.
The Order of Reference from the House of Commons dated Wednesday, June 21, 1995, was read as follows:
ORDERED,--That, the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs be designated as the committee of the House of Commons to which any matters shall stand referred pursuant to the Referendum Act.
After debate, it was agreed,--That, a Sub-Committee on the Referendum Act be struck and composed as follows: Peter Milliken (Chair); Stephen Harper, François Langlois and Ted McWhinney;
--That, the Sub-Committee have the power to report from time to time, to send for persons, papers and records, to sit while the House is sitting, to print from day to day such papers and evidence as may be ordered by the Sub-Committee.
At 1:45 o'clock p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 18, 1995
(Meeting No. 84)
The Evidence for this meeting is not available because it was held in camera.
(Meeting No. 84)
The Evidence for this meeting is not available because it was held in camera.
The Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs met in camera at 3:18 p.m. this day, in Room 112-N, Centre Block, the Chairman, Peter Milliken, presiding.
Members of the Committee present: Guy Arseneault, Colleen Beaumier, Don Boudria, Marlene Catterall, Gilles Duceppe, Jack Frazer, François Langlois, René Laurin, Gurbax Malhi, Ted McWhinney, Peter Milliken, Carolyn Parrish, Bob Ringma and Ray Speaker.
In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: James R. Robertson, Research Officer.
The Committee proceeded to the consideration of its future business.
In accordance with its mandate under Standing Orders 104 and 114, the Committee proceeded to the consideration of a Draft Report on the membership of Standing and Standing Joint Committees.
After debate, it was agreed,--That, the Draft Report be adopted as the Committee's Eighty-Fourth Report to the House and that the Chairman present the Report to the House.
At 3:35 p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 19, 1995
(Meeting No. 85)
(Meeting No. 85)
The Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs met at 11:02 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 112-N, Centre Block, the Chairman, Peter Milliken, presiding.
Members of the Committee present: Guy Arseneault, Colleen Beaumier, Don Boudria, Marlene Catterall, Gilles Duceppe, Jack Frazer, François Langlois, René Laurin, Gurbax Malhi, Ted McWhinney, Peter Milliken, Carolyn Parrish, Bob Ringma and Ray Speaker.
Associate Member present: John Solomon.
In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: James R. Robertson, Research Officer.
Electoral Boundaries
The Committee proceeded to the consideration of its Order of Reference from the House of Commons dated Thursday, June 22, 1995, in relation to the Reports of the Federal Electoral Boundaries Commissions.
After debate, on motion of Don Boudria, it was agreed,--That, four Sub-Committees be struck to consider the objections filed for Ontario, Québec, Western Canada (B.C., Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba) and for Eastern Canada (New Brunswick, Nova Scotia and Newfoundland);
--That, each Sub-Committee be empowered, except when the Committee otherwise orders, to send for persons, papers and records, to sit while the House is sitting, to sit during periods when the House stands adjourned, to print from day to day such papers and evidence as may be ordered by the Sub-Committee;
--That, the Whips from the three parties appoint three members to each Sub-Committee;
and,
--That, the Sub-Committees report to the Committee no later than October 16, 1995.
Sub-Committee on the Business of Supply
On motion of Bob Ringma, it was agreed,--That, the membership of the Sub-Committee on the Business of Supply be modified as follows: John Williams for Jim Silye.
After debate, it was agreed,--That, the Sub-Committee report to the Committee no later than November 23, 1995.
Sub-Committee on Members' Travel
On motion of Ray Speaker, it was agreed,--That, the membership of the Sub-Committee on Members' Travel be modified as follows: Jack Frazer for Jim Silye.
Sub-Committee on Private Members' Business
On motion of Don Boudria, it was agreed,--That, the membership of the Sub-Committee on Private Members' Business be modified as follows: Carolyn Parrish for Derek Lee and Mauril Bélanger for Bernard Patry.
On motion of Gilles Duceppe, it was agreed,--That, François Langlois be appointed member to the Sub-Committee on Private Members' Business.
On motion of Bob Ringma, it was agreed,--That, the membership of the Sub-Committee on Private Members' Business be modified as follows: Ken Epp for Randy White.
The Committee reverted to the consideration of its Order of Reference of June 22, 1995 in relation to the objections filed on the Reports of the Federal Electoral Boundaries Commissions.
The Chairman informed the Committee of a decision from the Steering Committee to accept four additional objections from Members to the proposed electoral boundaries.
At 11:47 o'clock a.m., Marlene Catterall took the Chair.
After debate, it was agreed,--That, the Committee, through the Chairman, send a letter to the Chair of the Senate Standing Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs on its consideration of Bill C-69, An Act to provide for the establishment of electoral boundaries commissions and the readjustment of electoral boundaries, reflecting this day's Committee discussion and the unanimous opinion expressed by representatives of the four major political parties represented in the House of Commons and present at this day's meeting;
--That, a transcript of this day's proceedings be appended to the said letter.
Report Stage of Bills - Sub-committee on the Business of Supply
At 12:02 o'clock p.m., François Langlois took the Chair.
After debate, on motion of Don Boudria, it was agreed,--That, Guy Arseneault and John Solomon be appointed members to the Sub-Committee on the Business of Supply; and
--That, the Sub-Committee on the Business of Supply undertake a study of the report stage of bills.
Sub-Committee on Agenda and Procedure (Steering Committee)
On motion of Jack Frazer, it was agreed,--That, the membership of the Sub-Committee on Agenda and Procedure be modified as follows: Ray Speaker for Bob Ringma.
At 12:07 o'clock p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
Marie Carrière
Clerk of the Committee
Striking Committee
Tuesday, September 19 1995
In accordance with the mandate of the Committee concerning its responsibilities as the Striking Committee, and according to an Order adopted by the Committee on Thursday, January 20, 1994, the Eighty-Fifth Report is deemed to have been adopted and the Chair is deemed ordered to present it to the House.
Marie Carrière
Clerk of the Committee
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 21, 1995
(Meeting No. 86)
(Meeting No. 86)
The Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs met at 11:09 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 112-N, Centre Block, the Chairman, Peter Milliken, presiding.
Members of the Committee present: Guy Arseneault, Don Boudria, Gilles Duceppe, François Langlois, René Laurin, Gurbax Malhi, Ted McWhinney, Peter Milliken, Carolyn Parrish, Bob Ringma and Ray Speaker.
Acting Member present: Eleni Bakopanos for Marlene Catterall.
In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: James R. Robertson, Research Officer.
Witnesses: From the Cable Parliamentary Channel: Martha Wilson, General Manager; Nathalie deMontigny, Program Manager.
Cable Parliamentary Channel
In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 108(3)(a)(v), the Committee proceeded to the consideration of the television broadcasting of the proceedings of the House and more particularly the rebroadcast of Question Period.
Martha Wilson made a statement and, with the other witness, answered questions.
Committee Rooms: priority of use
At 11:45 o'clock a.m., the Committee proceeded to the consideration of its mandate under Standing Order 115(4) as it relates to priority of use in Committee Rooms.
On motion of Don Boudria, it was agreed,--That, pursuant to Standing Order 115(4), priority for Room 237-C (Centre Block) be granted to the Special Joint Committee on the Code of Conduct, starting Monday, September 25, 1995, on Monday evenings from 6:00 p.m. to 10:00 p.m. and on Thurdays, from 3:30 p.m. to 7:30 p.m.
Electoral Boundaries
The Committee reverted to the consideration of its letter to the Chair of the Senate Standing Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs in relation to Bill C-69, An Act to provide for the establishment of electoral boundaries commissions and the readjustment of electoral boundaries. (See Minutes of Proceedings, Tuesday, September 19, 1995, Issue No. 52 and the Evidence, meeting no. 85).
At 12:07 o'clock p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 26, 1995
(Meeting No. 87)
(Meeting No. 87)
The Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs met at 11:05 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 112-N, Centre Block, the Chairman, Peter Milliken, presiding.
Members of the Committee present: Guy Arseneault, Don Boudria, Marlene Catterall, Gilles Duceppe, Jack Frazer, François Langlois, René Laurin, Gurbax Malhi, Ted McWhinney, Peter Milliken, Carolyn Parrish and Bob Ringma.
Acting Members present: Charles Hubbard for Guy Arseneault; John Richardson for Colleen Beaumier and Charles Hubbard for Gurbax Malhi.
In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: James R. Robertson, Research Officer.
Witness: From the House of Commons: Ian McClelland, M.P.
Sub-Committees on Electoral Boundaries
By unanimous consent, the Committee reverted to the consideration of the motion adopted on September 19, 1995 which reads as follows:
--That, four Sub-Committees be struck to consider the objections filed for Ontario, Québec, Western Canada (B.C., Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba) and for Eastern Canada (New Brunswick, Nova Scotia and Newfoundland);
--That, each Sub-Committee be empowered, except when the Committee otherwise orders, to send for persons, papers and records, to sit while the House is sitting, to sit during periods where the House stands adjourned, to print from day to day such papers and evidence as may be ordered by the Sub-Committee;
--That, the Whips from the three parties appoint three members to each Sub-Committee;
and,
--That, the Sub-Committee report to the Committee no later than October 16, 1995.
It was agreed,--That, the motion be amended by striking out in paragraph 3, the words ``three members'' and substituting the following:
``four members''.
And the question being put on the amendment, it was agreed, to.
The motion, as amended, carried.
Bill C-319
The Order of Reference from the House of Commons dated Wednesday, May 17, 1995, being read as follows:
ORDERED,--That, Bill C-319, An Act to amend the Canada Elections Act reimbursement of election expenses) be referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs.
The Chairman called Clause 1.
The witness made an opening statement and answered questions.
Striking Committee: S.O. 104(1)
In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 104(1), the Committee considered questions on its responsibilities as the Striking Committee.
After debate, Bob Ringma moved,--That, three seats be allocated to the Reform Party on the Standing Committee on Public Accounts and on the Standing Joint Committee on Scrutiny of Regulations.
The question being put on the motion it was negatived, on the following division:
YEAS
Jack Frazer
Bob Ringma--(2)
Bob Ringma--(2)
NAYS
Guy Arseneault
François Langlois
Colleen Beaumier
René Laurin
Don Boudria
Gurbax Malhi
Marlene Catterall
Ted McWhinney
Gilles Duceppe
Carolyn Parrish--(10)
At 12:20 o'clock p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 12:21 o'clock p.m., the sitting resumed in camera.
By unanimous consent, the Committee resumed consideration of its letter to the Chair of the Senate Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs on Bill C-69, An Act to provide for the establishment of electoral boundaries commissions and the readjustment of the electoral boundaries. (See Minutes of Proceedings and the evidence for Tuesday, September 19, 1995 (meeting no. 85) and Tuesday, September 26, 1995 (meeting no. 86))
It was agreed,--That, a copy of the letter be sent to the Speaker of the Senate and to the Speaker of the House of Commons.
At 12:24 o'clock p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
Marie Carrière
Clerk of the Committee
Striking Committee
Friday, September 22, 1995
In accordance with the mandate of the Committee concerning its responsibilities as the Striking Committee, and according to an Order adopted by the Committee on Thursday, January 20, 1994, the Eighty-Sixth Report is deemed to have been adopted and the Chair is deemed ordered to present it to the House.
Monday, September 25, 1995
In accordance with the mandate of the Committee concerning its responsibilities as the Striking Committee, and according to an Order adopted by the Committee on Thursday, January 20, 1994, the Eighty-Seventh Report is deemed to have been adopted and the Chair is deemed ordered to present it to the House.
Marie Carrière
Clerk of the Committee
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 3, 1995
(Meeting No. 88)
(Meeting No. 88)
The Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs met at 11:09 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 112-N, Centre Block, the Chairman, Peter Milliken, presiding.
Members of the Committee present: Don Boudria, Marlene Catterall, Jack Frazer, René Laurin, Gurbax Malhi, Ted McWhinney, Peter Milliken, Carolyn Parrish and Bob Ringma.
Acting Members present: Charles Hubbard for Guy Arseneault and Ian McClelland for Ray Speaker.
Associate Member present: Joe McGuire.
In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: James R. Robertson, Research Officer.
Witnesses: From the Office of the Chief Electoral Officer: Jean-Pierre Kingsley, Chief Electoral Officer and Jacques Girard, Director, Legal Services.
Sub-Committee on Private Members' Business: membership
On motion of Bob Ringma, it was agreed,--That, the membership of the Sub-Committee on Private Members' Business be modified as follows:
Darrel Stinson for Ken Epp.
Electoral Boundaries: objections
After debate, it was agreed,--That, notwithstanding the Committee's decision of Tuesday, September 26, 1995, the deadline for the reports of the Sub-Committees' for Ontario, Québec, the Western and Eastern Provinces be extended to Monday, October 23, 1995.
On motion of Bob Ringma, it was agreed,--That, in accordance with Section 22 of the Electoral Boundaries Readjustment Act, the Committee request from the House of Commons an extension for its consideration of the objections filed on the proposed electoral boundaries to November 30th, 1995 and that, the Chairman be instructed to present a report to the House.
Bill C-319
The Committee resumed consideration of its Order of Reference from the House of Commons dated Wednesday, May 17, 1995, in relation to Bill C-319, An Act to amend the Canada Elections Act (reimbursement of expenses). (See Minutes of Proceedings, Issue No. 52, meeting no. 87 and the Evidence for Tuesday, September 26, 1995, meeting no. 87)
On Clause 1
Jean-Pierre Kingsley made an opening statement and, with the other witness, answered questions.
At 11:56 o'clock a.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 17, 1995
(Meeting No. 89)
(Meeting No. 89)
The Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs met at 11:08 a.m. this day, in Room 112-N, Centre Block, the Chairman, Peter Milliken, presiding.
Members of the Committee present: Guy Arseneault, Colleen Beaumier, Don Boudria, Marlene Catterall, Jack Frazer, René Laurin, Gurbax Malhi, Ted McWhinney, Peter Milliken, Carolyn Parrish and Bob Ringma.
Associate Members present: Joe McGuire and Jerry Pickard.
Other Member present: Pierrette Ringuette-Maltais.
In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: James R. Robertson, Research Officer.
Witnesses: From the House of Commons: Robert Marleau, Clerk of the House; Camille Montpetit, Clerk Assistant (Procedural Services).
Sub-Committee on Private Members' Business: report on votable items
The Committee proceeded to the consideration of its business pursuant to Standing Orders 92 and 108(3)(a)(iii), in relation to Private Members' Business (votable items).
The Committee proceeded to the consideration of the Sub-Committee's Draft Report.
On motion of Guy Arseneault, it was agreed,--That, the Sub-Committee's report be adopted as the Committee's Ninety-First Report to the House and that the Chairman present the report to the House.
Committee's mandate: Standing Order 108(3)(a)(iii) - S.O. 11 (Naming of Members)
The Committee resumed consideration of the procedure surrounding the naming of Members under Standing Order 11. (See Minutes of Proceedings, Thursday, June 22, 1995, Issue No. 51 and the Evidence for Thursday, June 22, 1995, meeting no. 83).
The witnesses answered questions.
At 12:30 p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
Marie Carrière
Clerk of the Committee
Striking Committee
Friday, October 6, 1995
In accordance with the mandate of the Committee concerning its responsibilities as the Striking Committee, and according to an Order adopted by the Committee on Thursday, January 20, 1994, the Eighty-Ninth Report is deemed to have been adopted and the Chair is deemed ordered to present it to the House.
Monday, October 16, 1995
In accordance with the mandate of the Committee concerning its responsibilities as the Striking Committee, and according to an Order adopted by the Committee on Thursday, January 20, 1994, the Ninetieth Report is deemed to have been adopted and the Chair is deemed ordered to present it to the House.
Wednesday, October 18, 1995
In accordance with the mandate of the Committee concerning its responsibilities as the Striking Committee, and according to an Order adopted by the Committee on Thursday, January 20, 1994, the Ninety-First Report is deemed to have been adopted and the Chair is deemed ordered to present it to the House.
Marie Carrière
Clerk of the Committee