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Minutes of Proceedings

43rd Parliament, 2nd Session
Meeting 22
Monday, April 12, 2021, 6:34 p.m. to 9:34 p.m.
Televised
Presiding
Hon. Geoff Regan, Chair (Liberal)

Library of Parliament
• Brendan Naef, Analyst
• Holly Porteous, Analyst
• Hon. Harjit S. Sajjan, Minister of National Defence
Department of National Defence
• RAdm Scott Bishop, Commander of the Canadian Forces Intelligence Command and Chief of Defence Intelligence
• MGen Trevor Cadieu, Director of Staff, Strategic Joint Staff
• Jody Thomas, Deputy Minister
Communications Security Establishment
• Shelly Bruce, Chief
• Scott Jones, Head, Canadian Centre for Cyber Security
Department of Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development
• Daniel Costello, Assistant Deputy Minister, International Security
• Weldon Epp, Director General, North Asia and Oceania Bureau
Pursuant to the Order of Reference of Wednesday, September 23, 2020, the committee resumed its study of Canada-China relations.

The Minister made a statement and, with MGen Trevor Cadieu, answered questions.

At 7:31 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 7:33 p.m., the sitting resumed.

The witnesses answered questions.

At 8:26 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 8:31 p.m., the sitting resumed.

The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

It was agreed, — That the clerk of the committee write to the Hon. David McGuinty, Chair of the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians, to express the committees’ strong desire to hear from him, or alternatively, from another member of the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians, as part of its study of Canada-China relations.

On motion of Stéphane Bergeron, it was agreed, — That the clerk of the committee inform witnesses appearing before the committee that the House Administration support team must conduct technical tests to check the connectivity and the equipment used to ensure the best possible sound quality prior to their scheduled appearance; and that the Chair advise the committee, at the start of each meeting, of any witness who did not perform or passed the required technical tests.

On motion of Stéphane Bergeron, it was agreed, — That all documents submitted to the committee that do not come from a member’s office, a federal department or that have not been translated by the Translation Bureau be sent for prior linguistic review (concordance) by the Translation Bureau before being distributed to members.

Motion

Stéphane Bergeron moved, — That the text of any substantive motion, amendment or subamendment be distributed in writing in both official languages to all committee members before the committee can begin debate on it.

By unanimous consent, the motion was withdrawn.

Motion

Emmanuel Dubourg moved, — That any reference document that members share with the clerk of the committee or with the analysts in order to facilitate the committee’s work be distributed to all members of the committee, in both official languages.

Debate arose thereon.

Amendment

Garnett Genuis moved, — That the motion be amended by replacing the words “in order to facilitate the committee’s work” with the words “, for it to be entered into evidence as part of a study,”.

The question was put on the amendment of Garnett Genuis and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Michael D. Chong, Garnett Genuis, Pierre Paul-Hus — 3;

NAYS: Stéphane Bergeron, Emmanuel Dubourg, Peter Fragiskatos, Jack Harris, Joël Lightbound, John Williamson, Jean Yip, Lenore Zann — 8.

After debate, the question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

At 9:34 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Marie-France Lafleur
Clerk of the Committee