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MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS
 
Meeting No. 51
 
Monday, April 23, 2007
 

The Standing Committee on Public Accounts met in a televised session at 3:31 p.m. this day, in Room 253-D, Centre Block, the Chair, the Hon. Shawn Murphy, presiding.

 

Members of the Committee present: David Christopherson, Brian Fitzpatrick, Jean-Yves Laforest, Mike Lake, Hon. Shawn Murphy, Pierre Poilievre, Pablo Rodriguez, Jean-Yves Roy, Hon. Judy Sgro, David Sweet, John Williams and Borys Wrzesnewskyj.

 

Associate Members present: Laurie Hawn.

 

In attendance: House of Commons: Gregory Tardi, Senior Parliamentary Counsel (Legal). Library of Parliament: Alex Smith, Analyst; Lydia Scratch, Analyst.

 

Witnesses: As an individual: Hon. Reg Alcock, former Minister, President of the Treasury Board. Royal Canadian Mounted Police: Paul Gauvin, Deputy Commissioner, Corporate Management and Comptrollership; Fraser Macaulay, Chief Superintendent. Heenan Blaikie LLP: Ivan Whitehall, Lawyer. As an individual: Hon. Anne McLellan, former Minister of Public Safety. Royal Canadian Mounted Police: Mike Frizzell, Staff Sergeant.

 
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(g), the Committee resumed consideration of Chapter 9, Pension and Insurance Administration - Royal Canadian Mounted Police of the November 2006 Report of the Auditor General of Canada.
 

The Hon. Reg Alcock made an opening statement and answered questions.

 

The Hon. Anne McLellan made an opening statement and answered questions.

 

Paul Gauvin made an opening statement and, with Fraser Macaulay and Mike Frizzel, answered questions.

 

On motion of Jean-Yves Laforest, it was agreed, — That the Standing Committee of Public Accounts file a formal request with the RCMP authorities for them to provide the Committee with, as soon as possible, detailed and complete charts covering the period from 1997 to 2007, along with a brief description of the responsibilities of people involved and all the hierarchy links that bounded them.

 

On motion of David Christopherson, it was agreed, — That the Eleventh Report of the Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure of the Standing Committee on Public Accounts be adopted, which reads as follows:

Your Subcommittee met on Monday, April 23, 2007, to consider the business of the Committee and agreed to make the following recommendations:

That the Committee do meet every Monday on Chapter 9 of the Auditor General's Report, Pension and Insurance Administration - Royal Canadian Mounted Police, and that on Wednesdays, the Committee do meet on its other scheduled subjects for three hours, while allowing some flexibility to accommodate one meeting per week on Chapter 9, Pension and Insurance Administration - Royal Canadian Mounted Police if, for some reasons, Mondays are not feasible.

That the Committee Members submit to the Committee for follow-up with the Comptroller General of Canada, any matter which relates to mismanagement of Public Funds, and which they think should be further investigated.

That, on an exceptional basis, regarding the KPMG Report tabled by Mr. Poilievre on April 16, 2007 that the following parts of the document be translated pending a complete translation:

o Introduction

o Summary

o Recommendations

o Conclusion

That the following witnesses be invited to appear before the Committee on the Study of Chapter 9, Pension and Insurance Administration - Royal Canadian Mounted Police of the november 2006 Report of the Auditor General of Canada:

Audit

Frank Brazeau

David Smith

Fraser Macaulay

Mike Frizzell

David Marshall

Dominic Crupi

Pension

Jim Ewanovich

Dominic Crupi

Frank Brazeau

Paul Gauvin

Fraser Macaulay

Mike Frizzell

Insurance

Roselie Burton

Barb George

Fraser Macaulay

Mike Frizzell

Wrap Up

Paul Roy

Roselie Burton

Barb George

Daryl Lafoss

Bruce Rogerson

Fraser Macaulay

Mike Frizzell

That the panel agreed to, on April 18, 2007 be invited back on Monday, April 30, 2007 namely:

Barbara George

Rosalie Burton

Paul Roy

Mike Frizzell

Fraser Macaulay and

Denise Revine

That Bruce Rogerson, Darrell Lafosse and Retired Sergeant Estabrooks be invited to appear before the Committee.

 

On motion of Borys Wrzesnewskyj, it was agreed, — That notwithstanding the motion agreed to on April 18, 2007, that retired RCMP Sergeant Keith Estabrooks do appear before the Public Accounts Committee at the next scheduled meeting at which Mr. Gauvin is to appear.

 

At 5:40 p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

 



Georges Etoka
Clerk of the Committee

 
 
2007/05/03 12:02 p.m.