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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
36th PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 089

Tuesday, April 21, 1998

10:00 a.m.



PRAYERS

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Adams (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

-- Nos. 361-0588, 361-0642 and 361-0680 concerning nuclear weapons. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-46D;

-- No. 361-0681 concerning parental rights. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-16F;

-- No. 361-0697 concerning impaired driving. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-32A.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Kenney (Calgary Southeast), seconded by Mr. Epp (Elk Island), Bill C-390, An Act to amend the Income Tax (allowances paid to elected officials), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, a petition certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions was presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), concerning the income tax system (No. 361-0753).

ORDERS OF THE DAY

Pursuant to Standing Order 51(1), the question "That this House takes note of the Standing Orders and procedure of the House and its Committees" was deemed proposed.

Debate arose thereon.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

CERTIFICATES OF ELECTION

The Speaker informed the House that the Clerk had received from the Chief Electoral Officer a certificate of the election of Mr. Sekora (Port Moody -- Coquitlam).

Mr. Sekora (Port Moody -- Coquitlam), having taken and subscribed the oath required by law, took his seat in the House.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

TABLING OF DOCUMENTS

The Speaker laid upon the Table, -- Copy of documents issued by the Canadian Judicial Council in relation to comments made by Mr. Justice Marcel Joyal of the Federal Court of Canada. -- Sessional Paper No. 8527-361-21.

ORDERS OF THE DAY

The House resumed consideration of the motion "That this House takes note of the Standing Orders and procedure of the House and its Committees".

The debate continued.

Pursuant to Standing Order 51(1), the proceedings expired.


At 5:30 p.m., pursuant to Order made Thursday, April 2, 1998, the House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Dion (President of the Queen's Privy Council for Canada), -- That Bill C-28, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act, the Income Tax Application Rules, the Bankruptcy and Insolvency Act, the Canada Pension Plan, the Children's Special Allowances Act, the Companies' Creditors Arrangement Act, the Cultural Property Export and Import Act, the Customs Act, the Customs Tariff, the Employment Insurance Act, the Excise Tax Act, the Federal-Provincial Fiscal Arrangements Act, the Income Tax Conventions Interpretation Act, the Old Age Security Act, the Tax Court of Canada Act, the Tax Rebate Discounting Act, the Unemployment Insurance Act, the Western Grain Transition Payments Act and certain Acts related to the Income Tax Act, be now read a third time and do pass.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the amendment of Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), seconded by Mr. Godin (Châteauguay), -- That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word ``That'' and substituting the following:

    ``Bill C-28, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act, the Income Tax Application Rules, the Bankruptcy and Insolvency Act, the Canada Pension Plan, the Children's Special Allowances Act, the Companies' Creditors Arrangement Act, the Cultural Property Export and Import Act, the Customs Act, the Customs Tariff, the Employment Insurance Act, the Excise Tax Act, the Federal-Provincial Fiscal Arrangements Act, the Income Tax Conventions Interpretation Act, the Old Age Security Act, the Tax Court of Canada Act, the Tax Rebate Discounting Act, the Unemployment Insurance Act, the Western Grain Transition Payments Act and certain Acts related to the Income Tax Act, be not now read a third time but be referred back to the Standing Committee on Finance for the purpose of reconsidering Clause 241.''

The question was put on the amendment and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 124)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Anders -- Asselin -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Brison -- Cadman -- Casson -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Debien -- Desrochers -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Earle -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Hanger -- Hardy -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lill -- Loubier -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mancini -- Manning -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- McDonough -- McNally -- Ménard -- Meredith -- Muise -- Nunziata -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Power -- Price -- Proctor -- Ramsay -- Riis -- Ritz -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Solomon -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- St-Jacques -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Vautour -- Vellacott -- Wayne -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 107

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Cannis -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Copps -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lee -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 134

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bigras -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Caccia -- Calder -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Cullen -- de Savoye -- Finestone -- Fontana -- Fournier -- Girard-Bujold -- Guay -- Guimond -- Keyes -- Lalonde -- Lavigne -- Lefebvre -- Lincoln -- Mercier -- Phinney

By unanimous consent, the House proceeded to the putting of the question on the main motion of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Dion (President of the Queen's Privy Council for Canada).

The question was put on the main motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 125)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Cannis -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Copps -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lee -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 134

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Anders -- Asselin -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Brison -- Cadman -- Casson -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Debien -- Desrochers -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Earle -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Hanger -- Hardy -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lill -- Loubier -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mancini -- Manning -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- McDonough -- McNally -- Ménard -- Meredith -- Muise -- Nunziata -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Power -- Price -- Proctor -- Ramsay -- Riis -- Ritz -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Solomon -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- St-Jacques -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Vautour -- Vellacott -- Wayne -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 107

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bigras -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Caccia -- Calder -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Cullen -- de Savoye -- Finestone -- Fontana -- Fournier -- Girard-Bujold -- Guay -- Guimond -- Keyes -- Lalonde -- Lavigne -- Lefebvre -- Lincoln -- Mercier -- Phinney

Accordingly, the Bill was read a third time and passed.


Pursuant to Order made Thursday, April 2, 1998, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Ms. McLellan (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Secretary of State (Parks)), -- That Bill C-37, An Act to amend the Judges Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 126)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Cannis -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Copps -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lee -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Massé -- Matthews -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Nunziata -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Power -- Pratt -- Price -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Jacques -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Wayne -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 150

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Anders -- Asselin -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Blaikie -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Cadman -- Casson -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Debien -- Desrochers -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Earle -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Hanger -- Hardy -- Harris -- Hart -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lill -- Loubier -- Lowther -- Lunn -- Mancini -- Manning -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Mayfield -- McDonough -- McNally -- Ménard -- Meredith -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Proctor -- Ramsay -- Riis -- Ritz -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Solomon -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Vautour -- Vellacott -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 91

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bigras -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Caccia -- Calder -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Cullen -- de Savoye -- Finestone -- Fontana -- Fournier -- Girard-Bujold -- Guay -- Guimond -- Keyes -- Lalonde -- Lavigne -- Lefebvre -- Lincoln -- Mercier -- Phinney

Accordingly, the Bill was read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

Pursuant to Order made Thursday, April 2, 1998, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Ms. Beaumier (Brampton West -- Mississauga), seconded by Mr. Clouthier (Renfrew -- Nipissing -- Pembroke), -- That Bill C-208, An Act to amend the Access to Information Act, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 127)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Alcock -- Anders -- Asselin -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bailey -- Beaumier -- Bellehumeur -- Bennett -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bertrand -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Cadman -- Casson -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Cohen -- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Debien -- Desrochers -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Earle -- Epp -- Finlay -- Forseth -- Gagnon -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Graham -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Grose -- Hanger -- Hardy -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Knutson -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lee -- Lill -- Longfield -- Loubier -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mancini -- Manning -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- McDonough -- McNally -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Meredith -- Minna -- Muise -- Murray -- Nunziata -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pankiw -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Penson -- Peric -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Power -- Price -- Proctor -- Ramsay -- Redman -- Reed -- Riis -- Ritz -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Shepherd -- Solberg -- Solomon -- Steckle -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- St-Jacques -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Ur -- Vautour -- Vellacott -- Wayne -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 143

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Anderson -- Assadourian -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Blondin-Andrew -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Byrne -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Collenette -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Folco -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Godfrey -- Harb -- Harvard -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Karetak-Lindell -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mitchell -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Pagtakhan -- Patry -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Vanclief -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- 83

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bigras -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Caccia -- Calder -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Cullen -- de Savoye -- Finestone -- Fontana -- Fournier -- Girard-Bujold -- Guay -- Guimond -- Keyes -- Lalonde -- Lavigne -- Lefebvre -- Lincoln -- Mercier -- Phinney

Accordingly, the Bill was read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights.


Pursuant to Order made Tuesday, March 31, 1998, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Hoeppner (Portage -- Lisgar), seconded by Mr. Hanger (Calgary Northeast), -- That Bill C-223, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act (deduction of interest on mortgage loans), be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Finance.

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 128)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Anders -- Asselin -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Brison -- Cadman -- Casson -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Debien -- Desrochers -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Earle -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Hanger -- Hardy -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Iftody -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lill -- Loubier -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mancini -- Manning -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- McDonough -- McNally -- Ménard -- Meredith -- Muise -- Nunziata -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Power -- Price -- Proctor -- Ramsay -- Reed -- Riis -- Ritz -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Solomon -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- St-Jacques -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Vautour -- Vellacott -- Wayne -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 108

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Cannis -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Graham -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lee -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 125

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bigras -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Caccia -- Calder -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Cullen -- de Savoye -- Finestone -- Fontana -- Fournier -- Girard-Bujold -- Guay -- Guimond -- Keyes -- Lalonde -- Lavigne -- Lefebvre -- Lincoln -- Mercier -- Phinney

MOTIONS

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, -- That, at the conclusion of today's debate on Bill C-216, An Act to amend the Access to Information Act (Crown corporations), all questions necessary to dispose of the said motion for second reading shall be deemed put and a recorded division deemed requested and deferred until Tuesday, April 28, 1998, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.


By unanimous consent, it was ordered, -- That, at the conclusion of tomorrow's debate on Motion M-85, all questions necessary to dispose of the said motion shall be deemed put and a recorded division deemed requested and deferred until Tuesday, April 28, 1998, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 6:24 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(7), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Gilmour (Nanaimo -- Alberni), seconded by Mr. White (Langley -- Abbotsford), -- That Bill C-216, An Act to amend the Access to Information Act (Crown corporations), be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Natural Resources and Government Operations.

The debate continued.

Pursuant to Order made earlier today, the question was deemed put and a recorded division was deemed requested and deferred until Tuesday, April 28, 1998, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), a paper deposited with the Clerk of the House was laid upon the Table as follows:

-- by Mr. Pettigrew (Minister of Human Resources Development) -- Annual Report of the Canada Pension Plan, together with the Auditor General's report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, pursuant to the Act to amend the Canada Pension Plan, R.S. 1985, c. C-8, s. 117. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-59. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities)

PETITIONS FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, a petition certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions was filed as follows:

-- by Mr. Godfrey (Don Valley West), concerning the taxes on books (No. 361-0754).

PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION

At 7:08 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question "That this House do now adjourn" was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

ADJOURNMENT

At 7:12 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 2:00 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).