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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
36th PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 052

Wednesday, February 4, 1998

2:00 p.m.



PRAYERS

NATIONAL ANTHEM

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Mr. Boudria (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Report of the Commission to review allowances of Members of Parliament -- Volumes 1 and 2. -- Sessional Paper No. 8525-361-6.

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Adams (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

-- Nos. 361-0225, 361-0226 and 361-0227 concerning national unity. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-27B;

-- Nos. 361-0237 and 361-0238 concerning the regulation of food and drugs. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-25A;

-- No. 361-0267 concerning the income tax system. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545- 361-10F;

-- Nos. 361-0329 and 361-0330 concerning housing policy. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-1A.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Adams (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), from the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented the 19th Report of the Committee, which was as follows:

      The Committee recommends, pursuant to Standing Orders 104 and 114, the following changes in the membership of Standing Committees:

Agriculture and Agri-Food

Odina Desrochers for Hélène Alarie

Citizenship and Immigration

Norman Doyle for Diane St-Jacques

Environment and Sustainable Development

Gérard Asselin for Pierre de Savoye

Finance

Scott Brison for Jim Jones

Foreign Affairs and International Trade

André Bachand for Scott Brison

Industry

Jim Jones for Charlie Power

Natural Resources and Government Operations

Pierre de Savoye for Gérard Asselin

Public Accounts

Elsie Wayne for André Bachand

      The Committee recommends, pursuant to Standing Orders 104 and 114, that the following Members be added to the list of Associate Members of the Standing Committees:

Citizenship and Immigration

Diane St-Jacques

Finance

Jim Jones

National Defence and Veterans Affairs

Monique Guay

Public Accounts

Scott Brison

      The Committee recommends, pursuant to Standing Order 104(3), the following change in the membership of the Standing Joint Committee on Official Languages:

Mark Muise for Diane St-Jacques

The Committee further recommends, that where a Member is appointed as permanent member to a Committee in accordance with this report and to which he was previously appointed Associate Member, that the name of the Member be struck from the list of Associate Members of the said Committee.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings was tabled.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Ms. Meredith (South Surrey -- White Rock -- Langley), seconded by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley), Bill C-305, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (selling wildlife), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Paradis (Brome -- Missisquoi), seconded by Mr. Cullen (Etobicoke North), Bill C-306, An Act to amend the Bank Act (bank charges), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Motions

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, -- That, notwithstanding the provisions of Standing Order 81(16), in the combined periods ending March 26, 1998, and June 23, 1998, the total number of opposition motions that shall come to a vote shall not be more than seven.


By unanimous consent, Mr. Adams (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Clouthier (Renfrew -- Nipissing -- Pembroke), moved, -- That the 19th Report of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented earlier today, be concurred in.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.


By unanimous consent, Mr. Adams (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Clouthier (Renfrew -- Nipissing -- Pembroke), moved, -- That the membership of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs be modified as follows:

André Harvey for Norman Doyle

and that Norman Doyle be added to, and André Harvey be deleted from, the list of Associate Members.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.


By unanimous consent, it was ordered, -- That, in the opinion of this House, the government should renew its commitment to British pensioners living in Canada and vigorously pursue an agreement with the government of the United Kingdom to provide them with uprated pensions, to achieve parity with other United Kingdom pensioners.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), one concerning the Canadian Wheat Board (No. 361-0348);

-- by Mr. MacKay (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough), one concerning Canada's railways (No. 361-0349);

-- by Mr. Karygiannis (Scarborough -- Agincourt), one concerning nudity (No. 361- 0350);

-- by Mr. Hoeppner (Portage -- Lisgar), two concerning parental rights (Nos. 361- 0351 and 361-0352) and one concerning abortion (No. 361-0353);

-- by Mr. Robinson (Burnaby -- Douglas), one concerning alcoholic beverages (No. 361-0354);

-- by Mr. Riis (Kamloops), one concerning the tax system (No. 361-0355).

NOTICES OF MOTIONS FOR THE PRODUCTION OF PAPERS

The Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers P-6 was called pursuant to Standing Order 97(1) and was transferred by the Clerk to the Order of "Notices of Motions (Papers)".

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of the Environment), -- That Bill C-28, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act, the Income Tax Application Rules, the Bankruptcy and Insolvency Act, the Canada Pension Plan, the Children's Special Allowances Act, the Companies' Creditors Arrangement Act, the Cultural Property Export and Import Act, the Customs Act, the Customs Tariff, the Employment Insurance Act, the Excise Tax Act, the Federal- Provincial Fiscal Arrangements Act, the Income Tax Conventions Interpretation Act, the Old Age Security Act, the Tax Court of Canada Act, the Tax Rebate Discounting Act, the Unemployment Insurance Act, the Western Grain Transition Payments Act and certain Acts related to the Income Tax Act, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Finance.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 69)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Nunziata -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 143

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Alarie -- Anders -- Asselin -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Brison -- Cadman -- Canuel -- Casey -- Casson -- Charest -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Earle -- Elley -- Epp -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Hardy -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- Lill -- Loubier -- Lowther -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mancini -- Manning -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Mark -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- McDonough -- McNally -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Power -- Price -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Riis -- Ritz -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Solomon -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- St-Jacques -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Vautour -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 123

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Fournier -- Girard-Bujold -- Minna -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe)

Accordingly, the Bill was read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Finance.

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 5:12 p.m., by unanimous consent, the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Hoeppner (Portage -- Lisgar), seconded by Mr. Hanger (Calgary Northeast), -- That Bill C-223, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act (deduction of interest on mortgage loans), be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Finance.

The debate continued.

Pursuant to Standing Order 93, the Order was dropped to the bottom of the order of precedence on the Order Paper.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), a paper deposited with the Clerk of the House was laid upon the Table as follows:

-- by Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Public Works and Government Services) -- Summaries of the Corporate Plan for 1998-2002 and of the Capital Budget for 1998 of the Royal Canadian Mint, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R. S. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 125(4). -- Sessional Paper No. 8562-361- 810. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Natural Resources and Government Operations)

PETITIONS FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were filed as follows:

-- by Ms. Beaumier (Brampton West -- Mississauga), one concerning national unity (No. 361-0356) and one concerning immigration (No. 361-0357).

PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION

At 6:12 p.m., pursuant to Order made Monday, February 2, 1998, the question "That this House do now adjourn" was deemed to have been proposed.

MIDNIGHT

ADJOURNMENT

After debate, pursuant to Order made Monday, February 2, 1998, the question "That this House do now adjourn" was deemed to have been adopted.

At 1:24 a.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until later this day, pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).