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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
36th PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 127

Monday, September 28, 1998

11:00 a.m.



PRAYERS

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 11:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(6), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

Mr. Anders (Calgary West), seconded by Mr. Jaffer (Edmonton -- Strathcona), moved, -- That a Humble Address be presented to His Excellency praying that he will cause to be laid before this House copies of all documents, reports, minutes of meetings, notes, memos, polls and correspondence relating to the Calgary Declaration. (Private Members' Business P-22)

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 90, the Order was dropped to the bottom of the order of precedence on the Order Paper.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Industry of Bill C-53, An Act to increase the availability of financing for the establishment, expansion, modernization and improvement of small businesses.

Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), seconded by Mr. Mifflin (Minister of Veterans Affairs), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Industry.

Debate arose thereon.

Mr. Pankiw (Saskatoon -- Humboldt), seconded by Mr. Jaffer (Edmonton -- Strathcona), moved the following amendment, -- That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word ''That'' and substituting the following:

    ''Bill C-53, An Act to increase the availability of financing for the establishment, expansion, modernization and improvement of small businesses, be not now read a second time but that the Order be discharged, the Bill withdrawn and the subject-matter thereof referred to the Standing Committee on Industry.''

Debate arose thereon.

MOTIONS

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, -- That the membership of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs be modified as follows:

Gurmant Grewal for Ken Epp

Lynn Myers for Mac Harb

Joe Fontana for Carolyn Parrish

Gar Knutson for Rey Pagtakhan

And that the following Members be added to the list of Associate Members of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs:

Joe Jordan

Jay Hill

Garry Breitkreuz

Grant McNally

Deborah Grey

Elinor Caplan

Steve Mahoney

Mac Harb

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), seconded by Mr. Mifflin (Minister of Veterans Affairs), -- That Bill C-53, An Act to increase the availability of financing for the establishment, expansion, modernization and improvement of small businesses, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Industry;

And of the amendment of Mr. Pankiw (Saskatoon -- Humboldt), seconded by Mr. Jaffer (Edmonton -- Strathcona).

The debate continued.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

CERTIFICATES OF ELECTION

The Speaker informed the House that the Clerk had received from the Chief Electoral Officer a certificate of the election of Mr. Cardin (Sherbrooke).

Mr. Cardin (Sherbrooke), having taken and subscribed the oath required by law, took his seat in the House.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

The Speaker laid upon the table, -- Report of the Chief Electoral Officer of Canada following the Port Moody -- Coquitlam By-Election held on March 30, 1998, pursuant to the Canada Elections Act, R. S. 1985, c. E-2, sbs. 195(3). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-4A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs)


Mr. Lastewka (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Industry) laid upon the Table, -- Report on the Operations of the Small Business Loans Act for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1998, pursuant to the Small Businesses Loans Act, R.S. 1985, c. S-11, s. 11. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-240A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Industry)


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Adams (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

-- No. 361-0962 concerning gasoline pricing. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-12B;

-- Nos. 361-1229 and 361-1279 concerning the Copyright Act. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-81.

Presenting Reports from Inter-parliamentary Delegations

Pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), the Speaker presented the report of a Parliamentary delegation that travelled to Krakow, Gdansk and Warsaw, Poland, from May 18 to 23, 1998. -- Sessional Paper No. 8565-361-62.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Harb (Ottawa Centre), one concerning world peace (No. 361-1386);

-- by Mr. Duncan (Vancouver Island North), one concerning marriage (No. 361-1387);

-- by Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac -- Mégantic), one concerning the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms (No. 361-1388);

-- by Mr. Earle (Halifax West), one concerning marriage (No. 361-1389);

-- by Mr. Lowther (Calgary Centre), three concerning prostitution (Nos. 361-1390 to 361- 1392).

Questions on Order Paper

Mr. Adams (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the answers to questions Q-78 and Q-79 on the Order Paper.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), seconded by Mr. Mifflin (Minister of Veterans Affairs), -- That Bill C-53, An Act to increase the availability of financing for the establishment, expansion, modernization and improvement of small businesses, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Industry;

And of the amendment of Mr. Pankiw (Saskatoon -- Humboldt), seconded by Mr. Jaffer (Edmonton -- Strathcona).

The debate continued.

The question was put on the amendment and, pursuant to Standing Order 45, the recorded division was deferred until Tuesday, September 29, 1998, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.


The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights of Bill C-51, An Act to amend the Criminal Code, the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act and the Corrections and Conditional Release Act.

Ms. McLellan (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Kilgour (Secretary of State (Latin America and Africa)), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights.

Debate arose thereon.

PETITIONS FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were filed as follows:

-- by Mr. Harb (Ottawa Centre), two concerning the Divorce Act (Nos. 361-1393 and 361- 1394).

ADJOURNMENT

At 6:08 p.m., by unanimous consent, the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).