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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
36th PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 123

Tuesday, September 22, 1998

10:00 a.m.



PRAYERS

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Adams (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

-- Nos. 361-0720, 361-0725, 361-0769, 361-0776, 361-0791, 361-0806 and 361-0847 concerning health care services. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-66C;

-- Nos. 361-0830, 361-0870 and 361-0896 concerning nuclear weapons.

-- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-46H.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Harb (Ottawa Centre), one concerning the Divorce Act (No. 361-1323);

-- by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), twelve concerning gun control (Nos. 361-1324 to 361-1335);

-- by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), one concerning gun control (No. 361-1336);

-- by Mr. O'Reilly (Haliburton -- Victoria -- Brock), one concerning international trade (No. 361-1337);

-- by Mr. Elley (Nanaimo -- Cowichan), one concerning gun control (No. 361-1338);

-- by Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac -- Mégantic), one concerning Old Age Security benefits (No. 361-1339);

-- by Mr. Bellemare (Carleton -- Gloucester), one concerning the Divorce Act (No. 361-1340);

-- by Mr. Ritz (Battlefords -- Lloydminster), one concerning gun control (No. 361-1341);

-- by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley), one concerning the theft of motor vehicles (No. 361-1342), one concerning the sexual exploitation of minors (No. 361-1343), one concerning sex offenders (No. 361-1344) and one concerning the Young Offenders Act (No. 361-1345).

Questions on Order Paper

Mr. Adams (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the answers to questions Q-62 and Q-66 on the Order Paper.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The Order was read for the consideration of the Business of Supply.

Mr. Pankiw (Saskatoon -- Humboldt), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved, -- That this House condemns the government for its refusal to replace Bill C-68, the Firearms Act, with legislation targeting the criminal misuse of firearms and revoke their firearm registration policy that, in the opinion of this House: (a) confiscates private property; (b) contains unreasonable search and seizure provisions; (c) violates Treasury Board cost/benefit guidelines; (d) represents a waste of taxpayers dollars; (e) is an affront to law-abiding firearms owners; and (f) will exacerbate the illicit trafficking in firearms.

Debate arose thereon.

Mr. MacKay (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), moves the following amendment, -- That the motion be amended by adding the following:

    «; and that this House also urges the goverment to conduct a public, independent evaluation of the 1991 firearms legislation with respect to reducing firearm-related crimes before it proceeds with any new firearms legislation.»

Debate arose thereon.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Pankiw (Saskatoon -- Humboldt), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), in relation to the Business of Supply;

And of the amendment of Mr. MacKay (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris).

The debate continued.

At 5:15 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 81(16), the Speaker interrupted the proceedings.

The question was put on the amendment and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 224)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bailey -- Benoit -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brison -- Cadman -- Casey -- Casson -- Chatters -- Cummins -- Desjarlais -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duncan -- Elley -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gilmour -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Hanger -- Hardy -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Lowther -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Manning -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- McNally -- Meredith -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Muise -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Price -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Riis -- Ritz -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Solomon -- Stinson -- St-Jacques -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (NEW BRUNSWICK SOUTHWEST) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Vautour -- Vellacott -- Wayne -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- 83

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alarie -- Anderson -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bergeron -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brien -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Calder -- Cannis -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Crête -- Cullen -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Earle -- Easter -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Fournier -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Lill -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Mancini -- Manley -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Perron -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proctor -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Saada -- Sauvageau -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 182

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alcock -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Caccia -- Folco -- Lalonde -- Loubier -- St-Hilaire -- Turp

Pursuant to Standing Order 81(16), the House proceeded to the putting of the question on the main motion of Mr. Pankiw (Saskatoon -- Humboldt), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville).

The question was put on the main motion and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 225)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bailey -- Benoit -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brison -- Cadman -- Casey -- Casson -- Chatters -- Cummins -- Desjarlais -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duncan -- Elley -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gilmour -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Hanger -- Hardy -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Lowther -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Manning -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- McNally -- Meredith -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Muise -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Price -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Riis -- Ritz -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Solomon -- Stinson -- St-Jacques -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (NEW BRUNSWICK SOUTHWEST) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Vautour -- Vellacott -- Wayne -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- 82

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alarie -- Anderson -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bergeron -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brien -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Calder -- Cannis -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Crête -- Cullen -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Earle -- Easter -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Fournier -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Lill -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Mancini -- Manley -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Perron -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proctor -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Saada -- Sauvageau -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 183

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alcock -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Caccia -- Folco -- Lalonde -- Loubier -- St-Hilaire -- Turp


Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions at report stage of C-20, An Act to amend the Competition Act and to make consequential and related amendments to other Acts, as reported by the Standing Committee on Industry with amendments.

Group No. 1

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 1 of Mr. Dubé (Lévis-et Chutes-de-la- Chaudière), seconded by Mr. Guimond (Beauport -- Montmorency -- Côte- de-Beaupré -- Île d'Orléans), -- That Bill C-20, in Clause 12, be amended by replacing lines 20 to 29 on page 8 with the following:

      "12. (1) Section 52 of the Act is amended by adding the following after subsection (1):"

The question was put on Motion No. 1 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 226)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bigras -- Brien -- Canuel -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Laurin -- Lefebvre -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Venne -- 36

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Anders -- Anderson -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bailey -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Benoit -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Casson -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chatters -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- Cummins -- Davies -- Desjarlais -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Earle -- Easter -- Elley -- Epp -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Gilmour -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Grose -- Hanger -- Harb -- Hardy -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Konrad -- Kraft Sloan -- Laliberte -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Leung -- Lill -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Lowther -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Mancini -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchi -- Mark -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Massé -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McNally -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Pankiw -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Penson -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Price -- Proctor -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Ramsay -- Redman -- Reed -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Riis -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Saada -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Sekora -- Shepherd -- Solberg -- Solomon -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- St-Jacques -- St-Julien -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (NEW BRUNSWICK SOUTHWEST) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vautour -- Vellacott -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- Whelan -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 231

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alcock -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Caccia -- Folco -- Lalonde -- Loubier -- St-Hilaire -- Turp

Accordingly, Motion No. 3 was also negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 2 of Mr. Dubé (Lévis-et Chutes-de-la-Chaudière), seconded by Mr. Guimond (Beauport -- Montmorency -- Côte-de-Beaupré -- Île d'Orléans), -- That Bill C-20, in Clause 12, be amended by replacing lines 26 and 27 on page 8 with the following:

    "interest, by any means whatever, make a representation to the public"

The question was put on Motion No. 2 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 227)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Alarie -- Asselin -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Brien -- Canuel -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Earle -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hardy -- Laliberte -- Laurin -- Lefebvre -- Lill -- Mancini -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Nystrom -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Proctor -- Riis -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Solomon -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Vautour -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- 54

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Anders -- Anderson -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bailey -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Benoit -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Casson -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chatters -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- Cummins -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Easter -- Elley -- Epp -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Gilmour -- Godfrey -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Grose -- Hanger -- Harb -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Konrad -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Lowther -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchi -- Mark -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McNally -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Obhrai -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Pankiw -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Penson -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Price -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Ramsay -- Redman -- Reed -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Sekora -- Shepherd -- Solberg -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- St-Jacques -- St-Julien -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (NEW BRUNSWICK SOUTHWEST) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vellacott -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wayne -- Whelan -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 213

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alcock -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Caccia -- Folco -- Lalonde -- Loubier -- St-Hilaire -- Turp

Group No. 2

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 4 of Mr. Dubé (Lévis-et Chutes-de-la- Chaudière), seconded by Ms. Gagnon (Québec), -- That Bill C-20, in Clause 13, be amended by replacing line 16 on page 10 with the following:

    "means the practice of using the internet or interactive tele-"

The question was put on Motion No. 4 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 54, NAYS: 213. (See list under Division No. 227)

Accordingly, Motions Nos. 5 and 7 were also negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 8 of Mr. Dubé (Lévis-et Chutes-de-la-Chaudière), seconded by Ms. Gagnon (Québec), -- That Bill C-20, in Clause 13, be amended by replacing lines 41 and 42 on page 11 and lines 1 to 4 on page 12 with the following:

    "communication."

The question was put on Motion No. 8 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 54, NAYS: 213. (See list under Division No. 227)

Group No. 3

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 6 of Mr. Dubé (Lévis-et Chutes-de-la- Chaudière), seconded by Mr. Guimond (Beauport -- Montmorency -- Côte- de-Beaupré -- Île d'Orléans), -- That Bill C-20, in Clause 13, be amended by adding after line 4 on page 11 the following:

    "(a.1) make a representation to the public in the form of a statement, warranty or guarantee of the performance, efficacy or length of life of a product that is not based on an adequate and proper test thereof, the proof of which lies on the person making the representation;
    (a.2) make a representation to the public in a form that purports to be
      (i) a warranty or guarantee of a product, or
      (ii) a promise to replace, maintain or repair an article of any part thereof or to repeat or continue a service until it has achieved a specified result
      if the form of purported warranty or guarantee or promise is materially misleading or if there is no reasonable prospect that it will be carried out; or
    (a.3) make a materially misleading representation to the public concerning the price at which a product or like products have been, are or will be ordinarily sold, and for the purposes of this paragraph a representation as to price is deemed to refer to the price at which the product has been sold by sellers generally in the relevant market unless it is clearly specified to be the price at which the product has been sold by the person by whom or on whose behalf the representation is made."

The question was put on Motion No. 6 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 54, NAYS: 213. (See list under Division No. 227)

Group No. 4

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 9 of Mr. Dubé (Lévis-et Chutes-de-la- Chaudière), seconded by Mr. Guimond (Beauport -- Montmorency -- Côte- de-Beaupré -- Île d'Orléans), -- That Bill C-20, in Clause 22, be amended by adding after line 10 on page 23 the following:

      "74.091 (1) A person, other than a corporation, who is resident in Canada and at least 18 years of age, or a group of persons, none of whom is a corporation, who are resident in Canada and at least 18 years of age may address a request to the Commissioner that the Commissioner make application for an order under this Part.
      (2) the request must be in a form approved by the Minister and must include a solemn declaration containing
      (a) the name and address of the person making the request;
      (b) a statement that the person making the request is a resident of Canada and at least 18 years of age and is not a corporation;
      (c) a statement of the nature of the reviewable conduct and the name of each person alleged to be involved;
      (d) a summary of the evidence supporting the allegations in the request;
      (e) the names and addresses of each person who might be able to give evidence about the reviewable conduct, together with a summary of the evidence that each such person might give, to the extent that this information is available to the person making the request; and
      (f) a description of any document or other material that the person making the request believes should be considered in the application for an order and, if possible, a copy of the document.
      (3) the Commissioner shall acknowledge receipt of the request and shall make application for an order under this Part.
      (4) the Commissioner shall not make application for an order if the request is frivolous or vexatious.
      (5) If the Commissioner decides not to apply for an order, the Commissioner shall, within 60 days after the request is received, give notice of that decision, including the reasons for it, to
      (a) the person who made the request; and
      (b) each person alleged in the request to be engaging in or to have engaged in reviewable conduct for whom an address is given in the request."

The question was put on Motion No. 9 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 54, NAYS: 213. (See list under Division No. 227)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 10 of Mr. Dubé (Lévis-et Chutes-de-la-Chaudière), seconded by Mr. Guimond (Beauport -- Montmorency -- Côte-de-Beaupré -- Île d'Orléans), -- That Bill C-20, in Clause 22, be amended by adding after line 10 on page 23 the following:

      "74.091 (1) Any person, other than a corporation, who is resident in Canada and at least 18 years of age, or a group of persons, none of whom is a corporation, who are resident in Canada and at least 18 years of age may address a request to the Commissioner that the Commissioner make application for an order under this Part against a person who is engaging in or has engaged in reviewable conduct.
    (2) As soon as possible after receiving a request under subsection (1), the Commissioner shall make application for the order, unless the request is frivolous or vexatious."

The question was put on Motion No. 10 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 54, NAYS: 213. (See list under Division No. 227)

Accordingly, Motion No. 11 was also negatived on the same division.

Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Public Works and Government Services), moved, -- That Bill C-20, An Act to amend the Competition Act and to make consequential and related amendments to other Acts, be concurred in at report stage without amendment.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 228)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Anders -- Anderson -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bailey -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Benoit -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Casson -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chatters -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- Cummins -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Easter -- Elley -- Epp -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Gilmour -- Godfrey -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Grose -- Hanger -- Harb -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Konrad -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Lowther -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchi -- Mark -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McNally -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Obhrai -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Pankiw -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Penson -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Price -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Ramsay -- Redman -- Reed -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Sekora -- Shepherd -- Solberg -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- St-Jacques -- St-Julien -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (NEW BRUNSWICK SOUTHWEST) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vellacott -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wayne -- Whelan -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 213

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Alarie -- Asselin -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Brien -- Canuel -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Earle -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hardy -- Laliberte -- Laurin -- Lefebvre -- Lill -- Mancini -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Nystrom -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Proctor -- Riis -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Solomon -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Vautour -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- 54

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alcock -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Caccia -- Folco -- Lalonde -- Loubier -- St-Hilaire -- Turp

Accordingly, the Bill was concurred in at report stage and ordered for a third reading at the next sitting of the House.

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 6:10 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(7), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. McTeague (Pickering -- Ajax -- Uxbridge), seconded by Mr. Steckle (Huron -- Bruce), -- That Bill C-235, An Act to amend the Competition Act (protection of those who purchase products from vertically integrated suppliers who compete with them at retail), be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Industry.

The debate continued.

Pursuant to Standing Order 93, the Order was dropped to the bottom of the order of precedence on the Order Paper.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:

-- by Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Public Works and Government Services) -- Summaries of the Corporate Plan, Operating Budget and Capital Budget for 1998-99 to 2000-01 of the Queens Quay West Land Corporation, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R. S. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 125(4). -- Sessional Paper No. 8562-361- 838A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Natural Resources and Government Operations)

-- by Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Public Works and Government Services) -- Summaries of the Corporate Plan for 1998-99 to 2002-03 and of the Operating and Capital Budgets for 1998-99 of the Canada Lands Company Limited, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R. S. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 125(4). -- Sessional Paper No. 8562-361-840B. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Natural Resources and Government Operations)

PETITIONS FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were filed as follows:

-- by Mr. Godfrey (Don Valley West), one concerning marriage (No. 361-1346) and one concerning the Copyright Act (No. 361-1347).

PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION

At 7:10 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question "That this House do now adjourn" was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

ADJOURNMENT

At 7:24 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 2:00 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).