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MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS
Meeting No. 88
Tuesday, December 1st, 1998
The Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development met at 3:42 p.m. this day, in Room 371, West Block, the Chair, Charles Caccia, presiding.
Members of the Committee present: Charles Caccia, Aileen Carroll, Rick Casson, Yvon Charbonneau, Bill Gilmour, Jocelyne Girard-Bujold, John Herron, Joe Jordan, Karen Kraft Sloan, Rick Laliberté, Paddy Torsney.
Acting Members present: Gar Knutson for Sarkis Assadourian, Shaughnessy Cohen for David Pratt, Bernard Patry for Roger Gallaway.
Other Member present: Clifford Lincoln
In attendance: From the Committees and Legislative Services Directorate : Marc Toupin and Paulette Nadeau. From the Library of Parliament: Monique Hébert, Research Officer. From Resources Futures International: John Moffet, consultant.
Witnesses: From Environment Canada: Harvey Lerer, Director General, Canadian Environmental Protection Act Office; Karen Lloyd, Manager, CEPA Office; Duncan Cameron, Legal Counsel, Legal Services, CEPA Office; Steve Mongrain, CEPA Office.
The Committee resumed consideration of Bill C-32, An Act respecting pollution prevention and the protection of the environment and human health in order to contribute to sustainable development. (See Minutes of Proceedings, dated Wednesday, May 14, 1998, Meeting No. 53)
The witnesses answered questions.
At 3:44 p.m., the Committee resumed Clause-by-Clause consideration of the Bill.
The Committee resumed consideration of Clause 73.
On Clause 73.
Rick Laliberté moved, - That Clause 73 be amended by striking out lines 36 to 43 on page 42 and substituting the following therefore:
"available information, are persistent or bioaccumulative or inherently toxic or hormone disrupting substances, as determined by the regulations."
After debate, the question was put on the amendment and it was negatived.
Karen Kraft Sloan moved, - That Clause 73 be amended by striking out line 38 on page 42 in the English version and substituting the following therefore:
"the greatest potential for exposure;"
After debate, the question was put on the amendment and it was negatived.
Karen Kraft Sloan moved, - That Clause 73 be amended by striking out lines 41 to 43 on page 42 and substituting the following therefore:
"herently toxic to human beings or to non human organisms, as determined by laboratory or other studies."
After debate, the question was put on the amendment and it was agreed to.
Karen Kraft Sloan moved, - That Clause 73 be amended by adding after line 43, as amended, on page 42 the following:
"or
(c) are hormone disrupting substances."
After debate, the question was put on the amendment and it was negatived.
Clause 73, as amended, carried on division.
Clause 74 carried.
Clause 75 was allowed to stand.
On Clause 76.
Karen Kraft Sloan moved, - That Clause 76 be amended by striking out lines 1 to 8 on page 44 and substituting the following therefore:
"76. (1) The Ministers shall develop a process for prioritisation and action regarding substances identified under section 73, and the substances shall be included on a list to be known as the Priority Substances List to insure that the substances are assessed, in a timely manner, as prescribed by regulation, with regard to whether they are toxic or capable of becoming toxic."
After debate, the question was put on the amendment and it was negatived.
Rick Laliberté moved, - That Clause 76 be amended by striking out line 8 on page 44 and substituting the following therefore:
"of becoming toxic, including substances identified as referred to in subsection 73(1)."
After debate, the question was put on the amendment and it was negatived.
Jocelyne Girard-Bujold moved, - That Clause 76 be amended by striking out line 10 on page 44 and substituting the following therefore:
"Minister shall consult with the govern-"
After debate, the question was put on the amendment and it was negatived.
Clause 76, by unanimous consent, was allowed to stand.
On Clause 77.
Paddy Torsney moved, - That Clause 77 be amended in the English version only by striking out line 31 on page 45 and substituting the following therefore:
"stance to the Priority Substances List; or"
After debate, the question was put on the amendment and it was agreed to.
John Herron moved, - That Clause 77 be amended
- by striking out line 35 on page 45 and substituting the following therefore:
- by adding after line 21 on page 46 the following:
"subsection (4), virtual prohibition, or under (4.1), the total prohibition of the production, use and generation of a substance."
"(4.1) Where the Ministers propose to take the measure referred to in paragraph (2)(c) in respect of a substance and
(a) the Ministers are satisfied that
(i) the substance is persistent and bioaccumulative in accordance with the regulations,
(ii) the presence of the substance in the environment results primarily from human activity, and
(iii) the substance is not a naturally occurring radionuclide or substance, or
(b) the Ministers are satisfied that the substance is a hormone disrupting substance as determined by the regulations,
the ministers may propose the making of regulations under paragraph 93(1)(l) providing for the total prohibition of the manufacture, use, processing, sale, offering for sale, import or export of the substance or a product containing it."
At 5:24 p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
Stephen Knowles
Clerk of the Committee