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MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS
Meeting No. 84
Tuesday, November 24, 1998
The Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development met at 9:14 a.m. this day, in Room 237-C, Centre Block, the Chair, Charles Caccia, presiding.
Members of the Committee present: Gérard Asselin, Charles Caccia, Aileen Carroll, Rick Casson, Bill Gilmour, Jocelyne Girard-Bujold, John Herron, Joe Jordan, Karen Kraft Sloan, Rick Laliberté, Paddy Torsney.
Acting Members present: Hector Cloutier for Sarkis Assadourian, Gar Knutson for Roger Gallaway, John Finlay for Yvon Charbonneau, Peter Adams for David Pratt, Clifford Lincoln for Yvon Charbonneau, John Finlay for Aileen Carroll, John Finlay for David Pratt, Rey Pagtakhan for Yvon Charbonneau, Ray Bonin for David Pratt.
In attendance: From the Committees and Legislative Services Directorate : Marc Toupin and Paulette Nadeau. From the Library of Parliament: Monique Hébert, Research Officer. From Resources Futures International: John Moffet, consultant.
Witnesses: From Environment Canada: Harvey Lerer, Director General, Canadian Environmental Protection Act Office; Karen Lloyd, Manager, CEPA Office; Duncan Cameron, Legal Counsel, Legal Services, CEPA Office; Steve Mongrain, CEPA Office.
The Committee discussed its future business.
Rick Casson moved - That the Minister of Environment be requested to appear before the committee at the earliest opportunity, but not later than November 26th, to address Part 3 of the Estimates and the Supplementary Estimates (B) of the Department for the fiscal year 1998-99.
The question was put on the motion and it was negatived: YEAS: 6, NAYS: 7.
The Committee resumed consideration of Bill C-32, An Act respecting pollution prevention and the protection of the environment and human health in order to contribute to sustainable development. (See Minutes of Proceedings, dated Wednesday, May 14, 1998, Meeting No. 53)
John Finlay moved, That, with regard to clause by clause study of Bill C-32, the Committee extend its October 1, 1998 contract with Resource Futures International for up to 12 additional days to terminate no later than December 18, 1998 with a maximum amount of $7200 for the extended period.
The Committee resumed to Clause-by-Clause consideration of the Bill.
On Clause 44.
The Committee resumed consideration of Clause 44 and the amendment of Paddy Torsney, - That, Clause 44 be amended by adding line 30 on page 26 the following:
"(4) The Minister shall conduct research or studies relating to hormone disrupting substances, methods related to their detection, methods to determine their actual or likely short-term or long-term effect on the environment and human health, and preventive, control and abatement measures to deal with those substances to protect the environment and human health.
(5) In subsection (4), "hormone disrupting substance" means an exogeneous substance that causes adverse health effects in an intact organism, or its progeny, consequent to changes in endocrine function."
Debate arose theron.
By unanimous consent, Paddy Torsney moved, - That the amendment be further amended by deleting paragraph (5).
The question was put on the amendment and it was agreed to.
Clause 44, as amended, carried.
On Clause 43.
By unanimous consent, the Committee reverted to Clause 43.
By unanimous consent, Paddy Torsney moved, - That in Clause 43, as amended, the words "or its progeny" be inserted between the word "organism" and the word "that".
The question was put on the amendment and it was agreed to.
Clause 43, as amended, carried.
On Clause 45.
John Herron moved, - That Clause 45 be amended by striking out line 31 on page 26 and substituting the following therefore:
"45. The Minister of Health shall"
After debate, the question was put on the amendment and it was agreed to.
Clause 45 as amended, carried.
On Clause 46.
Karen Kraft Sloan moved, - That Clause 46 be amended by striking out line 30 on page 27 and substituting the following therefore:
"(f) substances that may cause or contribute to"
After debate, the question was put on the amendment and it was agreed to.
Karen Kraft Sloan moved, - That Clause 46 be amended by striking out line 33 on page 27 and substituting the following therefore:
"(g) substances or fuels that may contribute"
After debate, the question was put on the amendment and it was agreed to.
Clause 46 as amended, carried.
On Clause 47.
It was agreed, - That Clause 47 be allowed to stand.
On Clause 48.
It was agreed, - That Clause 48 be allowed to stand.
Clause 49 carried.
Clause 50 carried.
Clause 51 carried.
Clause 52 carried.
On Clause 53.
Rick Laliberté moved, - That Clause 53 be amended by striking out line 42 on page 30 and substituting the following therefore:
"outweighs in importance"
After debate, the question was put on the amendment and it was agreed to.
Clause 53 as amended, carried.
On Clause 54.
It was agreed, - That Clause 54 be allowed to stand.
On Clause 55.
Bill Gilmour moved, - That Clause 55 be amended by striking out line 44 on page 32 and substituting the following therefore:
"tion (1), the Minister of Health shall offer to consult"
After debate, the question was put on the amendment and it was negatived.
Clause 55 carried.
On Clause 56.
Jocelyne Girard-Bujold moved, - That Clause 56 be amended by striking out lines 9 to 17 on page 33 and substituting the following therefore:
"56. (1) Where the Minister is of the opinion that a person or class of persons should prepare or implement a pollution prevention plan in respect of a substance or group of substances specified on the List of Toxic Substances in Schedule 1, the Minister shall publish in the Canada Gazette and in any other manner that the Minister considers appropriate a notice requiring the person or class of persons to prepare or implement a pollution prevention plan."
After debate, the question was put on the amendment and it was negatived.
Rick Laliberté moved, - That Clause 56 be amended by striking out line 9 on page 33 and substituting the following therefore:
"56. (1) The Minister shall"
By unanimous consent, the amendment was allowed to stand.
Aileen Carroll moved, - That Clause 56 be amended by striking out line 13 on page 33 and substituting the following therefore:
"persons described in the notice to prepare and"
After debate, the question was put on the amendment and it was agreed to.
Paddy Torsney moved, - That Clause 56 be amended by striking out line 17 on page 33 and substituting the following therefore:
"Schedule 1, or to which subsection 166(1) or 176(1) applies."
After debate, the question was put on the amendment and it was agreed to.
At 11:09 a.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
Stephen Knowles
Clerk of the Committee