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House of Commons of Canada
35th Parliament, 2nd Session

Journals

No. 098
Wednesday, November 6, 1996
2:00 p.m.

Prayers

National Anthem

Statements by Members

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

Motions

By unanimous consent, it was ordered — That the name of Mr. Harvard be deleted from the list of “NAYS" in Division No. 156, taken Tuesday, November 5, 1996, in relation to Motion M–221.

Accordingly, Division No. 156, as revised, was as follows:

(Revised Division — Vote révisé No 156)

Yeas — Pour

Members — Députés

Adams — Asselin — Bachand — Beaumier — Bellehumeur — Bernier (Gaspé) — Bernier (Mégantic–Compton–Stanstead) — Blaikie — Brien — Canuel — Caron — Chrétien (Frontenac) — Crête — Dalphond-Guiral — Daviault — de Jong — de Savoye — Dubé — Duceppe — Dumas — Fillion — Gagnon (Québec) — Gauthier — Godin — Guay — Guimond — Harvard — Lalonde — Landry — Langlois — Lavigne (Beauharnois–Salaberry) — Lebel — Leblanc (Longueuil) — Lefebvre — Leroux (Richmond–Wolfe) — Leroux (Shefford) — MacDonald — Marchand — McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) — McTeague — Mercier — Nunez — Nunziata — O’Reilly — Paradis — Picard (Drummond) — Plamondon — Riis — Sauvageau — Shepherd — Solomon — Telegdi — Tremblay (Lac Saint-Jean) — Tremblay (Rimouski–Témiscouata) — Tremblay (Rosemont) — Venne --56

Nays — Contre

Members — Députés

Abbott — Ablonczy — Alcock — Allmand — Arseneault — Augustine — Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) — Bakopanos — Barnes — Bélair — Bélanger — Bellemare — Benoit — Bertrand — Bevilacqua — Blondin-Andrew — Bodnar — Bonin — Boudria — Breitkreuz (Yorkton–Melville) — Bridgman — Brown (Oakville–Milton) — Bryden — Caccia — Calder — Campbell — Cannis — Catterall — Cauchon — Chan — Clancy — Collenette — Comuzzi — Copps — Culbert — Cullen — Cummins — DeVillers — Discepola — Dromisky — Duncan — English — Epp — Finestone — Finlay — Fontana — Forseth — Frazer — Fry — Gagliano — Gerrard — Gilmour — Godfrey — Goodale — Gouk — Grey (Beaver River) — Grose — Hanger — Harb — Harper (Calgary West) — Harper (Churchill) — Harper (Simcoe Centre) — Hart — Hayes — Hermanson — Hickey — Hill (Macleod) — Hoeppner — Hopkins — Hubbard — Ianno — Irwin — Jackson — Johnston — Jordan — Keyes — Kilger (Stormont–Dundas) — Kirkby — Knutson — Kraft Sloan — Lastewka — Lavigne (Verdun–Saint-Paul) — Lee — Lincoln — MacLellan (Cape Breton–The Sydneys) — Malhi — Maloney — Marchi — Marleau — Martin (Esquimalt–Juan de Fuca) — Martin (LaSalle–Émard) — Massé — McCormick — McKinnon — McWhinney — Meredith — Mifflin — Minna — Nault — O’Brien (London–Middlesex) — Pagtakhan — Patry — Payne — Penson — Peric — Peters — Phinney — Proud — Ramsay — Regan — Richardson — Robichaud — Rock — Schmidt — Scott (Fredericton–York–Sunbury) — Serré — Silye — Simmons — Speaker — Steckle — Stewart (Brant) — Stewart (Northumberland) — Strahl — Szabo — Terrana — Torsney — Ur — Vanclief — Verran — Volpe — Walker — Wappel — Wayne — White (Fraser Valley West) — Williams — Wood — Zed --137

Paired Members — Députés « Pairés »

Bélisle — Bergeron — Brushett — Campbell — Chamberlain — Debien — Deshaies — Duhamel — Fewchuk — Flis — Graham — Jacob — Laurin — Loubier — Ménard — Murphy — Paré — Peterson — Pillitteri — Pomerleau — Rocheleau — St-Laurent — St. Denis — Whelan

Oral Questions

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

Daily Routine of Business

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Jackson (Parliamentary Secretary to the President of the Treasury Board) laid upon the Table, — Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

  1. No. 352-0617 concerning the protection of wild animals and plants. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-113;
  2. No. 352-0896 concerning the tax on gasoline. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-44Q;
  3. No. 352-0934 concerning the Canada-United States tax convention. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-88A;
  4. No. 352-0961 concerning housing policies. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-95A;
  5. Nos. 352-1100 and 352-1103 concerning sexual orientation. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-45J;
  6. No. 352-1102 concerning impaired driving. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-73J.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Ms. Cohen (Windsor–St. Clair), from the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs, presented the 4th Report of the Committee (Bill C–53, An Act to amend the Prisons and Reformatories Act, without amendment). — Sessional Paper No. 8510-352-49.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence (Issue No. 6, which includes this Report) was tabled.

Ms. Catterall (Ottawa West), from the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented the 44th Report of the Committee, which was as follows:

The Committee recommends, pursuant to Standing Orders 104 and 114, the following change in the membership of the Standing Joint Committee:

Scrutiny of Regulations

Peric for Knutson
The Committee also recommends, pursuant to Standing Orders 104 and 114, that the following Members be added to the list of Associate Members of the Standing Committee:

Citizenship and Immigration

BélangerDhaliwal
A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence (Issue No. 2, which includes this Report) was tabled.

Ms. Catterall (Ottawa West), from the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented the 43rd Report of the Committee, which was as follow:

In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 92(1), your Committee has selected from among the items for which an order of precedence was established on or after Tuesday, October 8, 1996, the following as votable items:

Bill C–300 — Mr. Frazer

Motion M–78 — Mr. Harris

Motion M–277 — Miss Grey

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence (Issue No. 2, which includes this Report) was tabled.

Pursuant to Standing Order 92(2), the report was deemed adopted.

Introduction of Private Members’ Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Lincoln (Lachine–Lac Saint-Louis), seconded by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), Bill C–346, An Act respecting federal funding of certain activities, events and facilities that are supported by tobacco companies, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Motions

By unanimous consent, Ms. Copps (Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Canadian Heritage), seconded by Mr. Gauthier (Roberval), Mr. Manning (Calgary Southwest) and Mr. Blaikie (Winnipeg Transcona), moved, — That this House support the bid by Canada to host EXPO 2005 in Calgary from May to October, 2005, the centennial year of Saskatchewan and Alberta.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

  • by Mr. Langlois (Bellechasse), one concerning the Senate (No. 352-1219);
  • by Mr. Bevilacqua (York North), one concerning social policies (No. 352-1220), one concerning Old Age Security benefits (No. 352-1221) and one concerning the Criminal Code of Canada (No. 352-1222);
  • by Ms. Skoke (Central Nova), one concerning the Copyright Act (No. 352-1223);
  • by Mr. Hart (Okanagan–Similkameen–Merritt), one concerning the unemployment insurance program (No. 352-1224);
  • by Mrs. Ur (Lambton–Middlesex), one concerning sexual orientation (No. 352-1225);
  • by Mr. Harper (Simcoe Centre), one concerning the Young Offenders Act (No. 352-1226), one concerning the sexual exploitation of minors (No. 352-1227) and one concerning sexual orientation (No. 352-1228);
  • by Mr. Nunziata (York South–Weston), one concerning profits from crime (No. 352-1229) and one concerning the parole system (No. 352-1230);
  • by Mr. Solomon (Regina–Lumsden), one concerning gasoline pricing (No. 352-1231);
  • by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), one concerning police and firefighters’ death benefits (No. 352-1232), one concerning the income tax system (No. 352-1233) and one concerning alcoholic beverages (No. 352-1234);
  • by Mr. Riis (Kamloops), one concerning the tax system (No. 352-1235) and one concerning the nuclear industry (No. 352-1236).

Government Orders

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Eggleton (Minister for International Trade), seconded by Mr. Gerrard (Secretary of State (Science, Research and Development)(Western Economic Diversification)), — That Bill C–61, An Act to implement the Canada-Israel Free Trade Agreement, be now read a third time and do pass.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on division.

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.

Motions

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That the 44th Report of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented earlier today, be concurred in.

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That the membership of the Standing Committee be modified as follows:

Procedure and House Affairs

Bonnie Hickey for Peter Milliken

Government Orders

The Order was read for the third reading of Bill C–41, An Act to amend the Divorce Act, the Family Orders and Agreements Enforcement Assistance Act, the Garnishment, Attachment and Pension Diversion Act and the Canada Shipping Act.

Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Goodale (Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food), moved, — That the Bill be now read a third time and do pass.

Debate arose thereon.

Private Members’ Business

At 5:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Gilmour (Comox–Alberni), seconded by Mr. Harris (Prince George–Bulkley Valley), — That, in the opinion of this House, the government should provide a greater measure of protection for individual property rights by amending the Canadian Bill of Rights to read:

“1.
Subject to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society, every person has the right to the enjoyment of that person’s personal and real property and the right not to be deprived thereof unless the person
(a)
is accorded a fair hearing in accordance with the principles of fundamental justice, and
(b)
is paid fair compensation in respect of the property, and the amount of that compensation is fixed impartially, and is paid within a reasonable amount of time after the person is deprived of their property.
  2.
Any person whose rights, as set out in section 1, have been infringed or denied may apply to a court of competent jurisdiction to obtain such remedy as the court considers appropriate and just in the circumstances.” (Private Members’ Business M–205)

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division — Vote No 166)

Yeas — Pour

Members — Députés

Abbott — Ablonczy — Benoit — Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) — Breitkreuz (Yorkton–Melville) — Bridgman — Cummins — Duncan — Epp — Frazer — Gilmour — Gouk — Grey (Beaver River) — Hanger — Harper (Calgary West) — Harper (Simcoe Centre) — Hart — Hayes — Hermanson — Hill (Macleod) — Hoeppner — Johnston — McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) — Meredith — Penson — Ramsay — Schmidt — Speaker — Strahl — White (Fraser Valley West) — Williams --31

Nays — Contre

Members — Députés

Adams — Anawak — Anderson — Arseneault — Asselin — Augustine — Bachand — Barnes — Bélair — Bélanger — Bellehumeur — Bellemare — Bernier (Gaspé) — Bernier (Mégantic–Compton–Stanstead) — Bertrand — Bevilacqua — Bodnar — Bonin — Brien — Brown (Oakville–Milton) — Bryden — Byrne — Cannis — Canuel — Caron — Catterall — Chan — Chrétien (Frontenac) — Clancy — Cohen — Collenette — Comuzzi — Copps — Crête — Culbert — Cullen — Daviault — de Savoye — DeVillers — Discepola — Dromisky — Duceppe — Dumas — Easter — Fillion — Finestone — Finlay — Gagnon (Bonaventure–Îles-de-la-Madeleine) — Gagnon (Québec) — Gerrard — Godin — Goodale — Guimond — Harb — Harvard — Hopkins — Hubbard — Iftody — Irwin — Jackson — Jordan — Knutson — Lalonde — Landry — Langlois — Lavigne (Beauharnois–Salaberry) — Lebel — LeBlanc (Cape Breton Highlands–Canso) — Leblanc (Longueuil) — Lefebvre — Leroux (Richmond–Wolfe) — Leroux (Shefford) — Lincoln — Loubier — MacDonald — MacLellan (Cape Breton–The Sydneys) — Malhi — Maloney — Marchand — Massé — McCormick — McGuire — McKinnon — McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) — McTeague — McWhinney — Ménard — Mercier — Minna — Murray — Nunez — Nunziata — O’Brien (London–Middlesex) — O’Reilly — Paradis — Patry — Payne — Peric — Peters — Phinney — Picard (Drummond) — Plamondon — Proud — Regan — Richardson — Rideout — Robichaud — Skoke — Steckle — Szabo — Telegdi — Terrana — Torsney — Tremblay (Lac Saint-Jean) — Tremblay (Rimouski–Témiscouata) — Tremblay (Rosemont) — Ur — Vanclief — Venne — Verran — Volpe — Walker — Wells — Wood --124

Paired Members — Députés « Pairés »

Assadourian — Bélisle — Bergeron — Calder — Chamberlain — Cowling — Dalphond-Guiral — Debien — Deshaies — Dubé — Flis — Gaffney — Gauthier — Graham — Guay — Jacob — Laurin — Loney — Mitchell — Murphy — Paré — Peterson — Pomerleau — Proud — Reed — Rocheleau — Sauvageau — Speller — St-Laurent — Whelan

At 6:00 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(7), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members’ Business.

The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Government Operations of Bill C–214, An Act to provide for improved information on the cost of proposed government programs.

Mr. Shepherd (Durham), seconded by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), moved, — That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Government Operations.

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 93, the Order was dropped to the bottom of the order of precedence on the Order Paper.

Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), a paper deposited with the Clerk of the House was laid upon the Table as follows:

by Mr. Irwin (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development) — Response of the government, pursuant to Standing Order 109, to the 2nd Report of the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development, “Sharing the Knowledge: The Path to Success and Equal Opportunities in Education” (Sessional Paper No. 8510-352-18), presented to the House on Monday, June 10, 1996. — Sessional Paper No. 8512-352-18.

Messages from the Senate

A Message was received from the Senate as follows:

— ORDERED: That a Message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Senate has passed Bill C–6, An Act to amend the Yukon Quartz Mining Act and the Yukon Placer Mining Act, without amendment.

Proceedings on Adjournment Motion

At 6:58 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question “That this House do now adjourn" was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

Adjournment

At 7:06 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).

Corrigendum

(Journals No. 97 of Tuesday, November 5, 1996)

At page 838, add immediately after Division No. 164, the following:

Accordingly, the Bill was read the second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Health.