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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
35th PARLIAMENT, 2nd SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 41

Tuesday, May 7, 1996

10:00 a.m.



The Clerk informed the House of the unavoidable absence of the Speaker.

Whereupon, Mr. Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast), Deputy Speaker and Chairman of Committees of the Whole, took the Chair, pursuant to subsection 43(1) of the Parliament of Canada Act.

PRAYERS

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), one concerning the income tax system (No. 352-0352) and one concerning alcoholic beverages (No. 352-0353);

-- by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley East), two concerning sexual orientation (Nos. 352-0354 and 352-0355).

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The Order was read for the consideration at report stage of Bill C-33, An Act to amend the Canadian Human Rights Act, as reported by the Standing Committee on Human Rights and the Status of Persons with Disabilities without amendment.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(5), the Deputy Speaker selected and grouped for debate the following motions:

Group No. 1 -- Motions Nos. 1, 9 to 15 and 18.

Group No. 1

Mr. Bryden (Hamilton -- Wentworth), seconded by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), moved Motion No. 1, -- That Bill C-33, in the Preamble, be amended by replacing lines 2 and 3, on page 1, with the following:

    "firms the dignity and worth of every individual and recognizes that every individual has the right to be".

Ms. Guarnieri (Mississauga East), seconded by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), moved Motion No. 9, -- That Bill C-33, in Clause 1, be amended by adding after line 33, on page 1, the following:

      "2.1 Nothing in sections 2 or 3 shall be construed so as to render any provision of the Criminal Code inoperative or of no force or effect."

Mr. McClelland (Edmonton Southwest), seconded by Mr. Solberg (Medicine Hat), moved Motion No.10, -- That Bill C-33, in Clause 1, be amended by adding after line 33, on page 1, the following:

      "2.1 The teaching and hiring practices of religious institutions shall not be considered a prohibited act of discrimination for the purposes of sections 2 or 3 provided that such practices are consistent with the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms."

Mrs. Hayes (Port Moody -- Coquitlam), seconded by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley East), moved Motion No.11, -- That Bill C-33, in Clause 1, be amended by adding after line 33, on page 1, the following:

      "2.1 The reference to "sexual orientation'' in sections 2 and 3, shall not be construed so as to amend the meaning assigned in any Act of Parliament to the terms "marriage'', "`family'' or "spouse''."

Mrs. Hayes (Port Moody -- Coquitlam), seconded by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley East), moved Motion No.12, -- That Bill C-33, in Clause 1, be amended by adding after line 33, on page 1, the following:

      "2.1 The reference to ``sexual orientation'' in sections 2 and 3, shall not be construed so as to affect freedom of religion, expression or association as guaranteed by the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms."

Mrs. Hayes (Port Moody -- Coquitlam), seconded by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley East), moved Motion No. 13, -- That Bill C-33, in Clause 1, be amended by adding after line 33, on page 1, the following:

      "2.1 The reference to "sexual orientation" in sections 2 and 3 shall not be construed so as to render any provision of the Criminal Code inoperative or of no force or effect."

Mrs. Hayes (Port Moody -- Coquitlam), seconded by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley East), moved motion No. 14, -- That Bill C-33, in Clause 1, be amended by adding after line 33, on page 1, the following:

      "2.1 Nothing in sections 2 or 3 shall be construed so as to authorize the extension of spousal or family benefits or entitlements funded and administered under any Act of Parliament to any person who cohabits with a person of the same sex in a relationship similar to a conjugal relationship."

Mrs. Hayes (Port Moody -- Coquitlam), seconded by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley East), moved Motion No. 15, -- That Bill C- 33, in Clause 1, be amended by adding after line 33, on page 1, the following:

      "2.1 Nothing in sections 2 or 3 shall be construed so as to authorize the marriage of persons of the same sex."

Mr. Wappel (Scarborough West), seconded by Ms. Guarnieri (Mississauga East), moved Motion No. 18, -- That Bill C- 33, in Clause 2, be amended by adding after line 8, on page 2, the following:

      "3.(2) For greater certainty, nothing in Sections 2 or 3 of this Act shall be construed by any court or tribunal in such a way as to add, read in, or include the words sexual orientation in Section 16 of this Act."

Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 1

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(5), the Deputy Speaker also selected and grouped for debate the following motions:

Group No. 2 -- Motions Nos. 2, 3, 17, 19, 20 and 21.

Group No. 3 -- Motions Nos. 4 to 8, 8A, 16 and 16A.

The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill C-33, An Act to amend the Canadian Human Rights Act, as reported by the Standing Committee on Human Rights and the Status of Persons with Disabilities without amendment;

And of the motions in Group No.1 (Motions Nos. 1, 9 to 15 and 18).

The debate continued on the motions in Group No. 1.

TABLING OF DOCUMENTS

By unanimous consent, Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley East) laid upon the Table, -- Document entitled "Homophobia is everyone's problem...and it can affect the spread of HIV/AIDS". -- Sessional Paper No. 8530-352-7.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill C-33, An Act to amend the Canadian Human Rights Act, as reported by the Standing Committee on Human Rights and the Status of Persons with Disabilities without amendment;

And of the motions in Group No.1 (Motions Nos. 1, 9 to 15 and 18).

The debate continued on the motions in Group No. 1.

TABLING OF DOCUMENTS

The Deputy Speaker laid upon the Table, -- Report of the Auditor General of Canada to the House of Commons (Volume 1 -- May 1996), pursuant to the Auditor General Act, S. C. 1994, c. 32, sbs 7(3). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-64. (Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(d), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Public Accounts)

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill C-33, An Act to amend the Canadian Human Rights Act, as reported by the Standing Committee on Human Rights and the Status of Persons with Disabilities without amendment;

And of the motions in Group No.1 (Motions Nos. 1, 9 to 15 and 18).

The debate continued on the motions in Group No. 1.

NOTICE OF MOTION

Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Labour and Deputy Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) gave notice of the intention to move a motion at the next sitting of the House, pursuant to Standing Order 78(3), for the purpose of allotting a specified number of days or hours for the consideration and disposal of the report stage and third reading stage of Bill C- 33, Act to amend the Canadian Human Rights Act.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill C-33, An Act to amend the Canadian Human Rights Act, as reported by the Standing Committee on Human Rights and the Status of Persons with Disabilities without amendment;

And of the motions in Group No.1 (Motions Nos. 1, 9 to 15 and 18).

The debate continued on the motions in Group No. 1.

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 5:30 p.m., pursuant to Order made Thursday, May 2, 1996, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mrs. Venne (Saint-Hubert), seconded by Mrs. Picard (Drummond), -- That Bill C-217, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (protection of witnesses), be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 54)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Althouse -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Bakopanos -- Bélanger -- Bélisle -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Gaspé) -- Bernier --  (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Blaikie -- Brien -- Brown --  (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Caccia -- Cannis -- Chamberlain -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac) -- Crête -- Cullen -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Jong -- Deshaies -- DeVillers -- Dromisky -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Easter -- Fillion -- Fontana -- Gaffney -- Gagnon --  (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gauthier -- Godin -- Graham -- Grose -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harvard -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Iftody -- Jacob -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Langlois -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne --  (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lavigne --  (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- Leblanc --  (Longueuil) -- Leroux --  (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux --  (Shefford) -- Lincoln -- Loney -- Loubier -- Maloney -- Marchand -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McLaughlin -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Nault -- Nunez -- O'Brien --  (London -- Middlesex) -- O'Reilly -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Pettigrew -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pomerleau -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Scott --  (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay --  (Rosemont) -- Ur -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Verran -- Wells -- Zed -- 107

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Anderson -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Bélair -- Benoit -- Bertrand -- Boudria -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bryden -- Calder -- Campbell -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Culbert -- Cummins -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Duncan -- Dupuy -- Epp -- Fewchuk -- Flis -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Gilmour -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Grey --  (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harb -- Harper --  (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harper --  (Churchill) -- Harper --  (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLellan --  (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Malhi -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- McClelland --  (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- McKinnon -- McLellan --  (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Pagtakhan -- Penson -- Peters -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Ramsay -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robichaud -- Rock -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Thompson -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wood -- Young -- 89

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Arseneault -- Bachand -- Barnes -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Canuel -- Caron -- Chan -- Collins -- Daviault -- Duhamel -- Hickey -- Landry -- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- MacAulay -- Paré -- St-Laurent -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Walker

Accordingly, the Bill was read the second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs.

At 6:02p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(7), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

Mr. Blaikie (Winnipeg Transcona), seconded by Mr. Taylor (The Battlefords -- Meadow Lake), moved, -- That, in the opinion of this House, the government should take measures to prohibit the importing of goods manufactured or containing parts manufactured by child labour as defined under International Labour Organization conventions. (Private Members' Business M-189)

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 96(1), the Order was dropped from the Order Paper.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), a paper deposited with the Clerk of the House was laid upon the Table as follows:

-- by the Speaker -- Report of the Chief Electoral Officer for the period ended March 30, 1996, pursuant to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-352-645. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs)

PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION

At 7:03 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question "That this House do now adjourn" was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

ADJOURNMENT

At 7:08 p.m., the Deputy Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 2:00 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).