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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
35th PARLIAMENT, 2nd SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 2

Wednesday, February 28, 1996

2:00 p.m.



PRAYERS

NATIONAL ANTHEM

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

WAYS AND MEANS

Pursuant to Standing Order 83(2), at the request of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), an Order of the Day was designated for the consideration of a Ways and Means motion for a budget presentation on Wednesday, March 6, 1996, at 4:30 p.m.

BOARD OF INTERNAL ECONOMY

The Speaker informed the House that, pursuant to the Parliament of Canada Act, Chapter 42, 1st Supplement, of the Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985, the membership of the Board of Internal Economy is now as follows:

-- Mr. Gray (Windsor West) and Mr. Gagliano, members of the Queen's Privy Council;

-- Mr. Boudria and Mr. Hopkins, representatives of the Government Caucus;

-- Mr. Duceppe and Mrs. Dalphond-Guiral, representatives of the Bloc Québécois Caucus; and

-- Mr. Ringma, representative of the Reform Caucus.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

The Speaker laid upon the Table, -- Document entitled: "Standing Orders of the House of Commons", dated December 1995, encompassing all the changes made to the Standing Orders since September 1994, as well as a revised index. -- Sessional Paper No. 8530-352-2.

Motions

By unanimous consent, Mr. Boudria (Glengarry -- Prescott -- Russell), seconded by Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), moved, -- That, the membership of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs be as follows:

    Bélanger, Mauril; Boudria, Don; Catterall, Marlene; Dalphond-Guiral, Madeleine; Frazer, Jack; Harb, Mac; Langlois, Francois; Laurin, René; Loney, John; Milliken, Peter; Parrish, Carolyn; Ringma, Bob; Speaker, Ray; Zed, Paul.

That the Associate Members of the said Committee be as follows:

    Bertrand, Robert; Brushett, Dianne; Cummins, John; Epps, Ken; Fewckuk, Ron; Grey, Deborah; Guimond, Michel; Hanrahan, High; Harper, Steven; Harris, Dick; Jordan, Jim; Solomon, John; Stinson, Darrel; Tremblay, Suzanne; Wayne, Elsie; White, Ted; Williams, John.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

ADDRESS IN REPLY TO THE SPEECH FROM THE THRONE

The House resumed the adjourned debate on the motion Mrs. Sheridan (Saskatoon -- Humboldt), seconded by Mr. Bélanger (Ottawa -- Vanier), -- That the following Address be presented to His Excellency the Governor General of Canada:

    To His Excellency the Right Honourable Roméo A. LeBlanc, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council for Canada, Chancellor and Principal Companion of the Order of Canada, Chancellor and Commander of the Order of Military Merit, Governor General and Commander-in-Chief of Canada.
    MAY IT PLEASE YOUR EXCELLENCY:
    We, Her Majesty's most loyal and dutiful subjects, the House of Commons of Canada, in Parliament assembled, beg leave to offer our humble thanks to Your Excellency for the gracious Speech which Your Excellency has addressed to both Houses of Parliament.

The debate continued.

Mr. Gauthier (Roberval), seconded by Mr. Duceppe (Laurier -- Sainte-Marie), moved the following amendment, -- That the following words be added to the Address:

    "This House deplores that Your Excellency's advisers have demonstrated a lack of vision in the face of the fundamental issues confronting Canada and Quebec, such as job creation, better administration of public funds, the re-establishment of fiscal justice for all, the recognition of Montreal as the economic hub of Quebec society, the need to protect Quebec culture;
    And show a lack of sensitivity toward the poor by proposing a reform of the social programs that strikes at those who are unemployed or on welfare, as well as seniors and students;
    And show a total lack of understanding of the referendum results."

Debate arose thereon.

Miss Grey (Beaver River), seconded by Mr. Speaker (Lethbridge), moved the following sub-amendment, -- That the amendment be amended by adding the following:

    "and in particular does not address:
    providing more personal security;
    the need to effectively reduce the budget deficit;
    simplifying the tax system and balancing the budget;
    greater personal social security by providing a permanent and stable source of social program funding in the areas of health, education and social assistance;
    greater public safety;
    understanding the need to communicate to Quebec honestly and openly what will be the stance of the rest of Canada concerning separation;
    understanding the need to pledge their unconditional commitment to protect and defend our rights and freedoms as Canadians wanting to remain Canadians in Quebec both before and after a possible Yes vote in the future."

Debate arose thereon.

MOTIONS

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, -- That the House shall continue to sit this day after 6:30 p.m. in order to consider the following motion:

That this House take note of Canada's current and future international peacekeeping commitments in Haiti, with particular reference to Canada's willingness to play a major role in the next phase of the international community's efforts to sustain a secure and stable environment in Haiti.

That, during consideration of the said motion, no member shall speak for more than ten minutes and no dilatory motions or quorum calls shall be receivable; and

At 9:30 p.m., or when no more members rise to speak, whichever is earlier, the Speaker shall adjourn the House until the next sitting day.

ADDRESS IN REPLY TO THE SPEECH FROM THE THRONE

Debate resumed on the motion of Mrs. Sheridan (Saskatoon -- Humboldt), seconded by Mr. Bélanger (Ottawa -- Vanier);

And on the amendment of Mr. Gauthier (Roberval), seconded by, Mr. Duceppe (Laurier -- Sainte-Marie);

And on the sub-amendment of Miss Grey (Beaver River), seconded by, Mr. Speaker (Lethbridge)

The debate continued.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

At 6:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 45 the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred division on the motion of Mr. Chrétien (Prime Minister), seconded by Mr. Gray (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons and Solicitor General of Canada), -- That Mrs. Ringuette-Maltais (Madawaska -- Victoria) be appointed Assistant Deputy Chairman of Committees of the Whole House. (Government Business No. 2)

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:


(Division--Vote No 2)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Alcock -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown --  (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Collins -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Culbert -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Duhamel -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Finestone -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon --  (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West/Ouest) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harper --  (Churchill) -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- LeBlanc --  (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLellan --  (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Malhi -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McLellan --  (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McTeague -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nault -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Pickard --  (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Scott --  (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Skoke -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wells -- Whelan -- Young -- Zed -- 134

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Althouse -- Bélisle -- Bellehumeur -- Bernier --  (Gaspé) -- Bernier --  (Mégantic - Compton - Stanstead) -- Blaikie -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Caron -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac) -- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Debien -- Deshaies -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Epp -- Fillion -- Forseth -- Gagnon --  (Québec) -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Godin -- Grey --  (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harper --  (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harper --  (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hart -- Hermanson -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Jacob -- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne --  (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Leblanc --  (Longueuil) -- Lefebvre -- Leroux --  (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux --  (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Marchand -- McClelland --  (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Nunez -- Penson -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pomerleau -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Speaker -- St-Laurent -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay --  (Rosemont) -- Venne -- 75

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Anawak -- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bergeron -- Caccia -- Clancy -- Daviault -- de Savoye -- Dubé -- Fewchuk -- Gaffney -- Lebel -- McKinnon -- Paré -- Serré -- Speller

SPECIAL DEBATE

At 7:00 p.m., pursuant to Order made earlier today, Mr. Axworthy (Minister of Foreign Affairs), seconded by, Mr. Collenette (Minister of National Defence and Minister of Veterans Affairs), moved, -- That this House take note of Canada's current and future international peacekeeping commitments in Haiti, with particular reference to Canada's willingness to play a major role in the next phase of the international community's efforts to sustain a secure and stable environment in Haiti. (Government Business No. 3)

Debate arose thereon.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:

-- by Mr. Gray (Solicitor General of Canada) -- Report on the Administration and on the Examination of the Financial Statement of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Superannuation Account (Part I) for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1995, pursuant to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Superannuation Act, R. S. 1985, c. R-11, s. 31. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-231. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs)

-- by Mr. Gray (Solicitor General of Canada) -- Report of the Auditor General on the examination of the Financial Statement of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (Dependants) Pension Fund for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1995, pursuant to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Pension Continuation Act, R. S. 1970, c. R-10, sbs. 55(4). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-232. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs)

-- by Mr. Gray (Solicitor General of Canada) -- Agreement for RCMP Policing Services made on November 14, 1995, between Canada, the province of Saskatchewan and the Ahtahkakoop First Nation, pursuant to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Act, R. S. 1985, c. R-10, sbs. 20(5). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-475. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs)

-- by Mr. Gray (Solicitor General of Canada) -- Agreement for RCMP Policing Services made on October 1, 1995, between Canada, the province of Saskatchewan and the Black Lake First Nation, pursuant to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Act, R. S. 1985, c. R-10, sbs. 20(5). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-475A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs)

-- by Mr. Gray (Solicitor General of Canada) -- Agreement for RCMP Policing Services made on October 3, 1995, between Canada, the province of Saskatchewan and the English River First Nation, pursuant to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Act, R. S. 1985, c. R-10, sbs. 20(5). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-475B. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs)

-- by Mr. Gray (Solicitor General of Canada) -- Agreement for RCMP Policing Services made on September 22, 1995, between Canada, the province of Saskatchewan and the Sturgeon Lake First Nation, the Wahpeton Dakota Nation, the Lac la Ronge Indian Band and the Montreal Lake Cree Nation, pursuant to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Act, R. S. 1985, c. R-10, sbs. 20(5). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-475C. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs)

-- by Mr. Gray (Solicitor General of Canada) -- Agreement for RCMP Policing Services made on August 30, 1995, between Canada, the province of Saskatchewan and the Touchwood Agency First Nations, pursuant to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Act, R. S. 1985, c. R-10, sbs. 20(5). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-475D. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs)

-- by Mr. Gray (Solicitor General of Canada) -- Agreement for RCMP Policing Services made on October 11, 1995, between Canada, the province of Saskatchewan and the Canoe Lake First Nation, pursuant to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Act, R. S. 1985, c. R-10, sbs. 20(5). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-475E. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs)

-- by Mr. Gray (Solicitor General of Canada) -- Agreement for RCMP Policing Services made on October 11, 1995, between Canada, the province of Saskatchewan and the Buffalo River First Nation, pursuant to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Act, R. S. 1985, c. R-10, sbs. 20(5). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-475F. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs)

-- by Mr. Gray (Solicitor General of Canada) -- Agreement for RCMP Policing Services made on October 11, 1995, between Canada, the province of Saskatchewan and the Hatchet Lake First Nation, pursuant to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Act, R. S. 1985, c. R-10, sbs. 20(5). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-475G. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs)

-- by Mr. Gray (Solicitor General of Canada) -- Agreement for RCMP Policing Services made on October 11, 1995, between Canada, the province of Saskatchewan and the Muskoday First Nation, pursuant to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Act, R. S. 1985, c. R-10, sbs. 20(5). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-475H. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs)

-- by Mr. Gray (Solicitor General of Canada) -- Agreement for RCMP Policing Services made on October 11, 1995, between Canada, the province of Saskatchewan and the Fond du Lac First Nation, pursuant to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Act, R. S. 1985, c. R-10, sbs. 20(5). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-475I. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs)

-- by Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance) -- Report of the Office of the Superintendent of Financial Institutions on the Administration of the Pension Benefits Standards Act, 1985, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1995, pursuant to the Pension Benefits Standards Act, R.S. 1985, (2nd Supp.), c. 32 s. 40. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-207. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Finance)

-- by Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice) -- Order amending the Foreign Extraterritorial Measures (United States) Order 1992, (Canada and Cuba), pursuant to the Foreign Extraterritorial Measures Act, R.S. 1985, c. F-29, s. 10. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-599. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade).

ADJOURNMENT

At 9:43 p.m., by unanimous consent, the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).