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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
35th PARLIAMENT, 2nd SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 106

Monday, November 25, 1996

11:00 a.m.



PRAYERS

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 11:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(6), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on National Defence and Veterans Affairs of Bill C-300, An Act respecting the establishment and award of a Canadian Volunteer Service Medal and Clasp for United Nations Peacekeeping to Canadians serving with a United Nations peacekeeping force.

Mr. Frazer (Saanich -- Gulf Islands), seconded by Mr. White (North Vancouver), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on National Defence and Veterans Affairs.

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 93, the Order was dropped to the bottom of the order of precedence on the Order Paper.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

Notice having been given at a previous sitting under the provisions of Standing Order 78(3), Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), seconded by Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), moved, -- That, in relation to Bill C-63, An Act to amend the Canada Elections Act and the Referendum Act, not more than one further sitting day shall be allotted to the consideration of report stage and second reading of the Bill and one sitting day shall be allotted to the third reading stage of the said Bill; and

That, fifteen minutes before the expiry of the time provided for Government Business on the day allotted to the consideration of report stage and second reading and on the day allotted to the third reading stage of the said Bill, any proceedings before the House shall be interrupted, if required for the purpose of this Order, and, in turn, every question necessary for the disposal of the said stage of the Bill shall be put forthwith and successively, without further debate or amendment.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 175)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bernier --  (Beauce) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown --  (Oakville -- Milton) -- Bryden -- Byrne -- Calder -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Collins -- Copps -- Crawford -- Culbert -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dingwall -- Dion -- Discepola -- Duhamel -- English -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gagnon --  (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Godfrey -- Gray --  (Windsor West/Ouest) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne --  (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- LeBlanc --  (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Loney -- MacLellan --  (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maloney -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McLellan --  (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Murphy -- Murray -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Reed -- Richardson -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robichaud -- Rock -- Scott --  (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Whelan -- Zed -- 103

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bellehumeur -- Brien -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac) -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- Duceppe -- Epp -- Frazer -- Gagnon --  (Québec) -- Gauthier -- Gouk -- Grey --  (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Harper --  (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Hayes -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Kerpan -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Lefebvre -- Loubier -- Marchand -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Nunez -- Penson -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Rocheleau -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Venne -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 52

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bélisle -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Gaspé) -- Canuel -- Caron -- Chan -- Clancy -- Daviault -- Debien -- Deshaies -- Dhaliwal -- Dubé -- Dumas -- Dupuy -- Eggleton -- Fillion -- Gerrard -- Godin -- Harper --  (Churchill) -- Hopkins -- Iftody -- Jacob -- Laurin -- Leblanc --  (Longueuil) -- Leroux --  (Shefford) -- MacDonald -- Manley -- Marchi -- McKinnon -- Ménard -- Nault -- O'Brien --  (London -- Middlesex) -- Paré -- Pomerleau -- Regan -- Rideout -- Robillard -- Sauvageau -- Speller -- Thalheimer -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rosemont) -- Wells -- Young


The House resumed consideration at report stage and second reading of Bill C-63, An Act to amend the Canada Elections Act and the Referendum Act, as reported by the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs with amendments;

And of the motions in Group No. 3 (Motions Nos. 5, 20 to 23 and 25).

Group No. 3

Motion No. 5 of Mr. Kilger (Stormont -- Dundas), seconded by Ms. Catterall (Ottawa West), -- That Bill C-63 be amended by adding after line 22 on page 2 the following new Clause:

      "1.1 The portion of subsection 9(3) of the Act after paragraph (b) is replaced by the following:
      the Chief Electoral Officer may extend the hours of voting at the polling station to allow votes to be cast on the ordinary polling day after the hour fixed by or pursuant to this Act for the closing of the poll at the polling station, but shall not, in so doing, permit votes to be cast at the polling station during an aggregate period of more than twelve hours."

Motion No. 20 of Mr. Kilger (Stormont -- Dundas), seconded by Ms. Catterall (Ottawa West), -- That Bill C-63, in Clause 44.1, be amended by replacing lines 44 to 46 on page 25 and lines 1 to 7 on page 26 with the following:

    ``(a) between 8:30 a.m. and 8:30 p.m. if the electoral district is in the Newfoundland, Atlantic or Central time zone;
    (b) between 9:30 a.m. and 9:30 p.m. if the electoral district is in the Eastern time zone;
    (c) between 7:30 a.m. and 7:30 p.m. if the electoral district is in the Mountain time zone; or
    (d) between 7:00 a.m. and 7:00 p.m. if the electoral district is in the Pacific time zone."

Motion No. 21 of Mr. Harper (Calgary West), seconded by Mr. Williams (St. Albert), -- That Bill C-63, in Clause 44.1, be amended by replacing lines 44 to 46 on page 25 and lines 1 to 6 on page 26 with the following:

    ``(a) between 10:30 a.m. and 9:30 p.m. if the electoral district is in the Newfoundland, Atlantic or Eastern time zone;
    (b) between 10:00 a.m. and 9:00 p.m. if the electoral district is in the Central time zone;
    (c) between 9:30 a.m. and 8:30 p.m. if the electoral district is in the Mountain time zone; or
    (d) between 9:00 a.m. and 8:00 p.m. if the''

Motion No. 22 of Mr. Langlois (Bellechasse), seconded by Mr. Ménard (Hochelaga -- Maisonneuve), -- That Bill C-63, in Clause 46.1, be amended by replacing line 31 on page 27 with the following:

    ``day at an election, have no less than four consecutive''

Motion No. 23 of Mr. Harper (Calgary West), seconded by Mr. Williams (St. Albert), -- That Bill C-63 be amended, by adding after line 44 on page 27 the following new Clause:

      ``47.1. That part of subsection 160(1) of the Act preceding paragraph (a) is replaced by the following:
      160.(1) One and one-half hours after the close of the poll in the Newfoundland, Atlantic and Eastern time zones, one hour after the close of the poll in the Central time zone, one-half hour after the close of the poll in the Mountain time zone, and immediately after the close of the poll in the Pacific time zone, in the presence and in full view of the poll clerk and the candidates or their agents, or, if the candidates or any of them are absent, in the presence of those candidates that are present, and of at least two electors if none of the candidates are represented, the deputy returning officer shall, in the following order,''

Motion No. 25 of Mr. Harper (Calgary West), seconded by Mr. Williams (St. Albert), -- That Bill C-63 be amended by adding after line 5 on page 35 the following new Clause:

      ``68.1 Subsection 328.(1) of the Act is replaced by the following:
      328.(1) No person, company or corporation shall, in any electoral district before the hour fixed by or pursuant to subsection 160(1) for the counting of the votes in that electoral district, publish the result or purported result of the polling in any electoral district in Canada by radio or television broadcast, by newspaper, news-sheet, poster, billboard or handbill or in any other manner.''

The debate continued on the motions in Group No. 3.

The question was put on Motion No. 5 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 20 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 22 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 23 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 25 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division was deferred.

Group No. 4

Mr. Harper (Calgary West), seconded by Mr. Gouk (Kootenay West -- Revelstoke), moved Motion No. 6, -- That Bill C-63, in Clause 2, be amended by replacing line 28 on page 2 with the following:

    ``polling day in the case of a general election or the forty-seventh day in the case of a by-election.''

Debate arose on the motion in Group No. 4.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons)) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions: (1) No. 352-1218 concerning impaired driving. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-73M; (2) No. 352-1226 concerning the Young Offenders Act. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-25M; (3) No. 352-1227 concerning the sexual exploitation of minors. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-74I; (4) No. 352-1228 concerning sexual orientation. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-45M; (5) No. 352-1229 concerning profits from crime. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-97G; (6) No. 352-1230 concerning the parole system. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-29I.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Orders in Council approving certain appointments made by the Governor General in Council, pursuant to Standing Order 110(1), as follows: (1) P.C. 1996-1617. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-24F. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Transport) (2) P.C. 1996-1628. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-8F. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade) (3) P.C. 1996-1629. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-18C. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Health) (4) P.C. 1996-1630 and P.C. 1996-1707. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-2B. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food) (5) P.C. 1996-1631 and P.C. 1996-1632. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-10F. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans) (6) P.C. 1996-1633 to P.C. 1996-1635 and P.C. 1996-1714 and P.C. 1996-1715. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-14E. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration) (7) P.C. 1996-1639 to P.C. 1996-1643 and P.C. 1996-1647 to P.C. 1996-1649. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-3F. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage) (8) P.C. 1996-1650 to P.C. 1996-1652, P.C. 1996-1708 and P.C. 1996-1709. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-5F. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs) (9) P.C. 1996-1653. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-9E. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Finance) (10) P.C. 1996-1654. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-6F. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Natural Resources) (11) P.C. 1996-1702 to P.C. 1996-1705 and P.C. 1996-1719. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-12B. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Human Rights and the Status of Persons with Disabilities) (12) P.C. 1996-1710 and P.C. 1996-1712. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-22E. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Industry) (13) P.C. 1996-1711 and P.C. 1996-1729. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-4F. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Government Operations) (14) P.C. 1996-1727. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-13E. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs) (15) P.C. 1996-1730. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-7B. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood), seconded by Mr. Crawford (Kent), Bill C-353, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (Internet lotteries), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Harb (Ottawa Centre), one concerning taxes on books (No. 352-1278);

-- by Miss Grey (Beaver River), one concerning taxes on books (No. 352-1279) and one concerning the Young Offenders Act (No. 352-1280);

-- by Mr. Finlay (Oxford), one concerning the highway system (No. 352-1281) and one concerning sexual orientation (No. 352-1282);

-- by Mrs. Sheridan (Saskatoon -- Humboldt), two concerning the Canada Post Corporation (Nos. 352-1283 and 352-1284);

-- by Mr. Mills (Red Deer), one concerning the highway system (No. 352-1285) and one concerning taxes on books (No. 352-1286);

-- by Mr. Proud (Hillsborough), one concerning national unity (No. 352-1287);

-- by Mr. McGuire (Egmont), one concerning taxes on books (No. 352-1288);

-- by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), one concerning police and firefighters' death benefits (No. 352-1289) and one concerning the income tax system (No. 352-1290);

-- by Mr. Harper (Calgary West), one concerning taxes on books (No. 352-1291).

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration at report stage and second reading of Bill C-63, An Act to amend the Canada Elections Act and the Referendum Act, as reported by the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs with amendments;

And of the motion in Group No. 4 (Motion No. 6).

The debate continued on the motion in Group No. 4.

The question was put on Motion No. 6 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division was deferred.

Group No. 5

Mr. Langlois (Bellechasse), seconded by Mr. de Savoye (Portneuf), moved Motion No. 7, -- That Bill C-63, in Clause 6, be amended by replacing line 19 on page 3 with the following:

    ``she is domiciled and to vote at the''

Mr. Harper (Calgary West), seconded by Mr. Ringma (Nanaimo -- Cowichan), moved Motion No. 8, -- That Bill C-63 be amended, in Clause 12, by replacing line 41 on page 4 with the following:

    ``referred to in subparagraph 71.011(a)(ii) or (iii). The''

Mr. Langlois (Bellechasse), seconded by Mr. de Savoye (Portneuf), moved Motion No. 11, -- That Bill C-63, in Clause 22, be amended by adding after line 27 on page 10 the following:

      ``71.011(1) The Chief Electoral Officer shall endeavour to conclude agreements with provinces and territories that maintain permanent lists of electors and the agreements shall provide for the use of such lists by the Chief Electoral Officer.
      (2) Notwithstanding any other provision of this Act, where the Chief Electoral Officer has entered into an agreement under subsection (1) for the use of a permanent list of electors, the Chief Electoral Officer shall, for the purposes of holding an election, use any lists obtained under such an agreement.''

Mr. Harper (Calgary West), seconded by Mr. Ringma (Nanaimo -- Cowichan), moved Motion No. 12, -- That Bill C-63 be amended, in Clause 22

    (a) by replacing line 32 on page 10 with the following:
      ``tion,''
    (b) by replacing line 3 on page 11 with the following:
      ``Electors, or''
    (c) by adding after line 3 on page 11 the following:
      ``(iii) contained in an existing permanent voter's Register created according to provincial legislation and that the Chief Electoral Officer considers adequate for the purposes of section 71.011;''

Mr. Harper (Calgary West), seconded by Mr. Ringma (Nanaimo -- Cowichan), moved Motion No. 13, -- That Bill C-63, in Clause 22, be amended by deleting lines 16 to 38 on page 11.

Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 5.

The question was put on Motion No. 7 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 8 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motion No. 12, was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 11 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 13 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division was deferred.

Group No. 6

Mr. Langlois (Bellechasse), seconded by Mr. de Savoye (Portneuf), moved Motion No. 24, -- That Bill C-63 be amended by adding after line 23 on page 33 the following new Clause:

      ``64. The Act is amended by adding the following after section 301:
      301.1 Chapter II of Title III of the Quebec Election Act applies to this Act, with such modifications as the circumstances require.''

Mr. Langlois (Bellechasse), seconded by Mr. de Savoye (Portneuf), moved Motion No. 29, -- That Bill C-63 be amended by adding after line 27 on page 38 the following new Clause:

      ``86.1. The Act is amended by adding the following after section 331:
      331. (1) Before an amendment to this Act is passed, the Governor in Council shall table a draft Bill in the House of Commons.
      (2) Within sixty days after the draft Bill is tabled, the Governor in Council shall consult the recognized political parties in the House of Commons.''

Mr. Langlois (Bellechasse), seconded by Mr. de Savoye (Portneuf), moved Motion No. 30, -- That Bill C-63, in Clause 87, be amended by deleting lines 5 and 6 on page 39.

Mr. Langlois (Bellechasse), seconded by Mr. de Savoye (Portneuf), moved Motion No. 31, -- That Bill C-63, in Clause 88, be amended by replacing lines 5 and 6 on page 40 with the following:

      ``88. Section 4 of the Referendum Act is replaced by the following:
      4. No proclamation may be issued
      (a) when the House of Commons stands dissolved; or
      (b) before, or more than forty-five days after, the text of the referendum question has been approved under section 5 or 5.1.
      89. Sections 8 and 9 of the Act are repealed. ''

Mr. Langlois (Bellechasse), seconded by Mr. de Savoye (Portneuf), moved Motion No. 32, -- That Bill C-63, in Clause 89, be amended by replacing lines 7 and 8 on page 40 with the following:

      ``89. The Act is amended by adding the following after section 5:
      5.1 (1) A referendum question shall be approved by a majority of the provinces that includes
      (a) Ontario;
      (b) Quebec;
      (c) British Columbia;
      (d) two or more of the Atlantic provinces that have, according to the then latest general census, combined populations of at least fifty per cent of the population of all the Atlantic provinces; and
      (e) two or more of the Prairie provinces that have, according to the then latest general census, combined populations of at least fifty per cent of the population of all the Prairie provinces.
      (2) In this section,
    ``Atlantic provinces'' means the provinces of Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, Prince Edward Island and Newfoundland;
    ``Prairie provinces'' means the provinces of Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta.''

Mr. Langlois (Bellechasse), seconded by Mr. de Savoye (Portneuf), moved Motion No. 33, -- That Bill C-63 be amended by adding after line 14 on page 40 the following new Clause:

      ``91. The Act is amended by adding the following after section 16:
      16.1(1) Chapter II of Title III of the Quebec Election Act (financing of political parties) applies to this Act, with such modifications as the circumstances require.
      (2) For the purposes of this Act, a reference to ``party'' in the Quebec Election Act shall be read as a reference to ``referendum committee''.''

Mr. Langlois (Bellechasse), seconded by Mr. de Savoye (Portneuf), moved Motion No. 35, -- That Bill C-63, in Clause 92, be amended by replacing line 28 on page 40 with the following:

    ``before it are replaced by the following:
      39. (1) The Government of Canada shall not give effect to a vote on a referendum question or take any action whatsoever with respect to that vote unless a majority of the legislatures of the provinces have first given their consent, and this majority shall include
      (a) Ontario;
      (b) Quebec;
      (c) British Columbia;
      (d) two or more of the Atlantic provinces that have, according to the then latest general census, combined populations of at least fifty per cent of the population of all the Atlantic provinces; and
      (e) two or more of the Prairie provinces that have, according to the then latest general census, combined populations of at least fifty per cent of the population of all the Prairie provinces.
      (2) In this section,
    ``Atlantic provinces'' means the provinces of Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, Prince Edward Island and Newfoundland;
    ``Prairie provinces'' means the provinces of Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta.''

Mr. Langlois (Bellechasse), seconded by Mr. de Savoye (Portneuf), moved Motion No. 36, -- That Bill C-63 be amended by adding after line 28 on page 40 the following new Clause:

      ``93. The Act is amended by adding the following after section 39:
      39.1(1) The provisions of an Act of a legislature respecting a referendum or referendums prevail over any inconsistent provisions in this Act.
      (2) Where the result of a referendum held under an Act of a legislature respecting a referendum or referendums differs from the result of a referendum held under this Act, the result obtained under the Act of the legislature shall prevail.''

Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 6.

At 6:15 p.m., pursuant to Order made earlier today under the provisions of Standing Order 78(3), the Speaker interrupted the proceedings.

The question was put on Motion No. 24 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motion No. 33, was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 29 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 30 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 31 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motion No. 32, was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 35 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 36 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division was deferred.

Group No. 7

Mr. Harper (Calgary West), seconded by Mr. Ringma (Nanaimo -- Cowichan), moved Motion No. 37, -- That Bill C-63, in Clause 94, be amended by replacing line 4 on page 43 with the following:

    ``and 52 of this Act come into force on August 1,''

The question was put on Motion No. 37 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division was deferred.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions at report stage and second reading of Bill C-63, An Act to amend the Canada Elections Act and the Referendum Act, as reported by the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs with amendments.

Group No. 2

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 1 of Mr. Langlois (Bellechasse), seconded by Mr. Ménard (Hochelaga -- Maisonneuve), -- That Bill C-63, in Clause 1, be amended by replacing line 18 on page 1 with the following:

    ``surname, given names, sex, date of birth, civic address''

The question was put on Motion No. 1 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 176)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac) -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Duceppe -- Epp -- Frazer -- Gagnon --  (Québec) -- Gouk -- Grey --  (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Harper --  (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harper --  (Simcoe Centre) -- Hayes -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Lavigne --  (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- Loubier -- Manning -- Marchand -- Meredith -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Nunez -- Penson -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Rocheleau -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Venne -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 55

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown --  (Oakville -- Milton) -- Bryden -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Collins -- Crawford -- Culbert -- de Jong -- DeVillers -- Dingwall -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- English -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Gagliano -- Gagnon --  (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Godfrey -- Graham -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harper --  (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont - Dundas) -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne --  (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- LeBlanc --  (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacLellan --  (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maloney -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McGuire -- McLellan --  (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Minna -- Murphy -- Murray -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robichaud -- Scott --  (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Whelan -- Wood -- Zed -- 112

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Anderson -- Bélisle -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Gaspé) -- Canuel -- Caron -- Cauchon -- Chan -- Clancy -- Daviault -- Debien -- Deshaies -- Dhaliwal -- Dubé -- Dumas -- Dupuy -- Eggleton -- Fillion -- Gauthier -- Gerrard -- Godin -- Harper --  (Churchill) -- Hopkins -- Iftody -- Jacob -- Laurin -- Leblanc --  (Longueuil) -- Leroux --  (Shefford) -- MacDonald -- Manley -- Marchi -- McKinnon -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Nault -- O'Brien --  (London -- Middlesex) -- Paré -- Pomerleau -- Regan -- Rideout -- Robillard -- Sauvageau -- Speller -- Thalheimer -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rosemont) -- Wells -- Young

Accordingly, Motions Nos. 3, 9 15 and 18 were also negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 2 of Mr. Harper (Calgary West), seconded by Mr. Williams (St. Albert), -- That Bill C-63, in Clause 1, be amended by replacing line 18 on page 1 with the following:

    ``surname, given names, civic address''

The question was put on Motion No. 2 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 177)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Benoit -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Cummins -- Epp -- Frazer -- Gouk -- Grey --  (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Hanger -- Harper --  (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harper --  (Simcoe Centre) -- Hayes -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Manning -- Meredith -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 30

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Bachand -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brien -- Brown --  (Oakville -- Milton) -- Bryden -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac) -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Collins -- Crawford -- Culbert -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- DeVillers -- Dingwall -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- English -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Gagliano -- Gagnon --  (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gagnon --  (Québec) -- Godfrey -- Graham -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harper --  (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Lastewka -- Lavigne --  (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lavigne --  (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- Lebel -- LeBlanc --  (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Loney -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- MacLellan --  (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maloney -- Marchand -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McGuire -- McLellan --  (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Minna -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nunez -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Proud -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robichaud -- Rocheleau -- Scott --  (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Verran -- Whelan -- Wood -- Zed -- 137

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Anderson -- Bélisle -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Gaspé) -- Canuel -- Caron -- Cauchon -- Chan -- Clancy -- Daviault -- Debien -- Deshaies -- Dhaliwal -- Dubé -- Dumas -- Dupuy -- Eggleton -- Fillion -- Gauthier -- Gerrard -- Godin -- Harper --  (Churchill) -- Hopkins -- Iftody -- Jacob -- Laurin -- Leblanc --  (Longueuil) -- Leroux --  (Shefford) -- MacDonald -- Manley -- Marchi -- McKinnon -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Nault -- O'Brien --  (London -- Middlesex) -- Paré -- Pomerleau -- Regan -- Rideout -- Robillard -- Sauvageau -- Speller -- Thalheimer -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rosemont) -- Wells -- Young

Accordingly, Motions Nos. 4, 10, 14, 16, 17, 19, 26, 27 and 28 were also negatived on the same division.

Group No. 3

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 5 of Mr. Kilger (Stormont -- Dundas), seconded by Ms. Catterall (Ottawa West), -- That Bill C-63 be amended by adding after line 22 on page 2 the following new Clause:

      "1.1 The portion of subsection 9(3) of the Act after paragraph (b) is replaced by the following:
      the Chief Electoral Officer may extend the hours of voting at the polling station to allow votes to be cast on the ordinary polling day after the hour fixed by or pursuant to this Act for the closing of the poll at the polling station, but shall not, in so doing, permit votes to be cast at the polling station during an aggregate period of more than twelve hours."

The question was put on Motion No. 5 and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 178)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Bachand -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brien -- Brown --  (Oakville -- Milton) -- Bryden -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac) -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Collins -- Crawford -- Culbert -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- DeVillers -- Dingwall -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- English -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Gagliano -- Gagnon --  (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gagnon --  (Québec) -- Godfrey -- Graham -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harper --  (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Lastewka -- Lavigne --  (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lavigne --  (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- Lebel -- LeBlanc --  (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Loney -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- MacLellan --  (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maloney -- Marchand -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McGuire -- McLellan --  (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Minna -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nunez -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Proud -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robichaud -- Rocheleau -- Scott --  (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Verran -- Whelan -- Wood -- Zed -- 137

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Benoit -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Cummins -- Epp -- Frazer -- Gouk -- Grey --  (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Hanger -- Harper --  (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harper --  (Simcoe Centre) -- Hayes -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Manning -- Meredith -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 30

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Anderson -- Bélisle -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Gaspé) -- Canuel -- Caron -- Cauchon -- Chan -- Clancy -- Daviault -- Debien -- Deshaies -- Dhaliwal -- Dubé -- Dumas -- Dupuy -- Eggleton -- Fillion -- Gauthier -- Gerrard -- Godin -- Harper --  (Churchill) -- Hopkins -- Iftody -- Jacob -- Laurin -- Leblanc --  (Longueuil) -- Leroux --  (Shefford) -- MacDonald -- Manley -- Marchi -- McKinnon -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Nault -- O'Brien --  (London -- Middlesex) -- Paré -- Pomerleau -- Regan -- Rideout -- Robillard -- Sauvageau -- Speller -- Thalheimer -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rosemont) -- Wells -- Young

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 20 of Mr. Kilger (Stormont -- Dundas), seconded by Ms. Catterall (Ottawa West), -- That Bill C-63, in Clause 44.1, be amended by replacing lines 44 to 46 on page 25 and lines 1 to 7 on page 26 with the following:

    ``(a) between 8:30 a.m. and 8:30 p.m. if the electoral district is in the Newfoundland, Atlantic or Central time zone;
    (b) between 9:30 a.m. and 9:30 p.m. if the electoral district is in the Eastern time zone;
    (c) between 7:30 a.m. and 7:30 p.m. if the electoral district is in the Mountain time zone; or
    (d) between 7:00 a.m. and 7:00 p.m. if the electoral district is in the Pacific time zone."

The question was put on Motion No. 20 and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 179)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown --  (Oakville -- Milton) -- Bryden -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Collins -- Crawford -- Culbert -- de Jong -- DeVillers -- Dingwall -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- English -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Gagliano -- Gagnon --  (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Godfrey -- Graham -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harper --  (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne --  (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- LeBlanc --  (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacLellan --  (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maloney -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McGuire -- McLellan --  (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Minna -- Murphy -- Murray -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robichaud -- Scott --  (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Whelan -- Wood -- Zed -- 112

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac) -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Duceppe -- Epp -- Frazer -- Gagnon --  (Québec) -- Gouk -- Grey --  (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Harper --  (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harper --  (Simcoe Centre) -- Hayes -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Lavigne --  (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- Loubier -- Manning -- Marchand -- Meredith -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Nunez -- Penson -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Rocheleau -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Venne -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 55

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Anderson -- Bélisle -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Gaspé) -- Canuel -- Caron -- Cauchon -- Chan -- Clancy -- Daviault -- Debien -- Deshaies -- Dhaliwal -- Dubé -- Dumas -- Dupuy -- Eggleton -- Fillion -- Gauthier -- Gerrard -- Godin -- Harper --  (Churchill) -- Hopkins -- Iftody -- Jacob -- Laurin -- Leblanc --  (Longueuil) -- Leroux --  (Shefford) -- MacDonald -- Manley -- Marchi -- McKinnon -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Nault -- O'Brien --  (London -- Middlesex) -- Paré -- Pomerleau -- Regan -- Rideout -- Robillard -- Sauvageau -- Speller -- Thalheimer -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rosemont) -- Wells -- Young

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 22 of Mr. Langlois (Bellechasse), seconded by Mr. Ménard (Hochelaga -- Maisonneuve), -- That Bill C-63, in Clause 46.1, be amended by replacing line 31 on page 27 with the following:

    ``day at an election, have no less than four consecutive''

The question was put on Motion No. 22 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 180)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Althouse -- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bellehumeur -- Blaikie -- Brien -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac) -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- Duceppe -- Gagnon --  (Québec) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Lavigne --  (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- Loubier -- Marchand -- Nunez -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Rocheleau -- Taylor -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Venne -- 29

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Benoit -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brown --  (Oakville -- Milton) -- Bryden -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Collins -- Crawford -- Culbert -- Cummins -- DeVillers -- Dingwall -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- English -- Epp -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Frazer -- Gagliano -- Gagnon --  (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Godfrey -- Gouk -- Graham -- Grey --  (Beaver River) -- Grose -- Grubel -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Harb -- Harper --  (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harper --  (Churchill) -- Harper --  (Simcoe Centre) -- Harvard -- Hayes -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hubbard -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne --  (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- LeBlanc --  (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacLellan --  (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maloney -- Manning -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McGuire -- McLellan --  (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Murphy -- Murray -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Patry -- Penson -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Ramsay -- Reed -- Richardson -- Ringma -- Robichaud -- Scott --  (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Whelan -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- Wood -- Zed -- 138

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Anderson -- Bélisle -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Gaspé) -- Canuel -- Caron -- Cauchon -- Chan -- Clancy -- Daviault -- Debien -- Deshaies -- Dhaliwal -- Dubé -- Dumas -- Dupuy -- Eggleton -- Fillion -- Gauthier -- Gerrard -- Godin -- Harper --  (Churchill) -- Hopkins -- Iftody -- Jacob -- Laurin -- Leblanc --  (Longueuil) -- Leroux --  (Shefford) -- MacDonald -- Manley -- Marchi -- McKinnon -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Nault -- O'Brien --  (London -- Middlesex) -- Paré -- Pomerleau -- Regan -- Rideout -- Robillard -- Sauvageau -- Speller -- Thalheimer -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rosemont) -- Wells -- Young

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 23 of Mr. Harper (Calgary West), seconded by Mr. Williams (St. Albert), -- That Bill C-63 be amended, by adding after line 44 on page 27 the following new Clause:

      ``47.1. That part of subsection 160.(1) of the Act preceding paragraph (a) is replaced by the following:
      160.(1) One and one-half hours after the close of the poll in the Newfoundland, Atlantic and Eastern time zones, one hour after the close of the poll in the Central time zone, one-half hour after the close of the poll in the Mountain time zone, and immediately after the close of the poll in the Pacific time zone, in the presence and in full view of the poll clerk and the candidates or their agents, or, if the candidates or any of them are absent, in the presence of those candidates that are present, and of at least two electors if none of the candidates are represented, the deputy returning officer shall, in the following order,''

The question was put on Motion No. 23 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 181)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Althouse -- Benoit -- Blaikie -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Cummins -- de Jong -- Epp -- Frazer -- Gouk -- Grey --  (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Hanger -- Harper --  (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harper --  (Simcoe Centre) -- Hayes -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Manning -- Meredith -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Taylor -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 34

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Bachand -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brien -- Brown --  (Oakville -- Milton) -- Bryden -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac) -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Collins -- Crawford -- Culbert -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- DeVillers -- Dingwall -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- English -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Gagliano -- Gagnon --  (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gagnon --  (Québec) -- Godfrey -- Graham -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harper --  (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Lastewka -- Lavigne --  (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lavigne --  (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- Lebel -- LeBlanc --  (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Loney -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- MacLellan --  (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maloney -- Marchand -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McGuire -- McLellan --  (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Minna -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nunez -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Proud -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robichaud -- Rocheleau -- Scott --  (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Verran -- Whelan -- Wood -- Zed -- 133

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Anderson -- Bélisle -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Gaspé) -- Canuel -- Caron -- Cauchon -- Chan -- Clancy -- Daviault -- Debien -- Deshaies -- Dhaliwal -- Dubé -- Dumas -- Dupuy -- Eggleton -- Fillion -- Gauthier -- Gerrard -- Godin -- Harper --  (Churchill) -- Hopkins -- Iftody -- Jacob -- Laurin -- Leblanc --  (Longueuil) -- Leroux --  (Shefford) -- MacDonald -- Manley -- Marchi -- McKinnon -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Nault -- O'Brien --  (London -- Middlesex) -- Paré -- Pomerleau -- Regan -- Rideout -- Robillard -- Sauvageau -- Speller -- Thalheimer -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rosemont) -- Wells -- Young

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 25 of Mr. Harper (Calgary West), seconded by Mr. Williams (St. Albert), -- That Bill C-63 be amended by adding after line 5 on page 35 the following new Clause:

      ``68.1 Subsection 328.(1) of the Act is replaced by the following:
      328.(1) No person, company or corporation shall, in any electoral district before the hour fixed by or pursuant to subsection 160.(1) for the counting of the votes in that electoral district, publish the result or purported result of the polling in any electoral district in Canada by radio or television broadcast, by newspaper, news-sheet, poster, billboard or handbill or in any other manner.''

The question was put on Motion No. 25 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 34, NAYS: 133 (See list under Division No. 181)

Group No. 4

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 6 of Mr. Harper (Calgary West), seconded by Mr. Gouk (Kootenay West -- Revelstoke), -- That Bill C-63, in Clause 2, be amended by replacing line 28 on page 2 with the following:

    ``polling day in the case of a general election or the forty- seventh day in the case of a by-election.''

The question was put on Motion No. 6 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 182)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Althouse -- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Blaikie -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac) -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- Duceppe -- Epp -- Frazer -- Gagnon --  (Québec) -- Gouk -- Grey --  (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Harper --  (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harper --  (Simcoe Centre) -- Hayes -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Lavigne --  (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- Loubier -- Manning -- Marchand -- Meredith -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Nunez -- Penson -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Rocheleau -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Taylor -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Venne -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 59

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown --  (Oakville -- Milton) -- Bryden -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Collins -- Crawford -- Culbert -- DeVillers -- Dingwall -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- English -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Gagliano -- Gagnon --  (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Godfrey -- Graham -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harper --  (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne --  (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- LeBlanc --  (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacLellan --  (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maloney -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McGuire -- McLellan --  (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Minna -- Murphy -- Murray -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robichaud -- Scott --  (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Whelan -- Wood -- Zed -- 108

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Anderson -- Bélisle -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Gaspé) -- Canuel -- Caron -- Cauchon -- Chan -- Clancy -- Daviault -- Debien -- Deshaies -- Dhaliwal -- Dubé -- Dumas -- Dupuy -- Eggleton -- Fillion -- Gauthier -- Gerrard -- Godin -- Harper --  (Churchill) -- Hopkins -- Iftody -- Jacob -- Laurin -- Leblanc --  (Longueuil) -- Leroux --  (Shefford) -- MacDonald -- Manley -- Marchi -- McKinnon -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Nault -- O'Brien --  (London -- Middlesex) -- Paré -- Pomerleau -- Regan -- Rideout -- Robillard -- Sauvageau -- Speller -- Thalheimer -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rosemont) -- Wells -- Young

Group No. 5

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 7 of Mr. Langlois (Bellechasse), seconded by Mr. de Savoye (Portneuf), -- That Bill C-63, in Clause 6, be amended by replacing line 19 on page 3 with the following:

    ``she is domiciled and to vote at the''

The question was put on Motion No. 7 and it was negatived on the following division:


(Division--Vote No 183)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bellehumeur -- Brien -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac) -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Duceppe -- Gagnon --  (Québec) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Lavigne --  (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- Loubier -- Marchand -- Nunez -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Rocheleau -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Venne -- 25

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Benoit -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brown --  (Oakville -- Milton) -- Bryden -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Collins -- Crawford -- Culbert -- Cummins -- de Jong -- DeVillers -- Dingwall -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- English -- Epp -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Frazer -- Gagliano -- Gagnon --  (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Godfrey -- Gouk -- Graham -- Grey --  (Beaver River) -- Grose -- Grubel -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Harb -- Harper --  (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harper --  (Churchill) -- Harper --  (Simcoe Centre) -- Harvard -- Hayes -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hubbard -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne --  (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- LeBlanc --  (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacLellan --  (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maloney -- Manning -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McGuire -- McLellan --  (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Murphy -- Murray -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Patry -- Penson -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Ramsay -- Reed -- Richardson -- Ringma -- Robichaud -- Scott --  (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Whelan -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- Wood -- Zed -- 142

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Anderson -- Bélisle -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Gaspé) -- Canuel -- Caron -- Cauchon -- Chan -- Clancy -- Daviault -- Debien -- Deshaies -- Dhaliwal -- Dubé -- Dumas -- Dupuy -- Eggleton -- Fillion -- Gauthier -- Gerrard -- Godin -- Harper --  (Churchill) -- Hopkins -- Iftody -- Jacob -- Laurin -- Leblanc --  (Longueuil) -- Leroux --  (Shefford) -- MacDonald -- Manley -- Marchi -- McKinnon -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Nault -- O'Brien --  (London -- Middlesex) -- Paré -- Pomerleau -- Regan -- Rideout -- Robillard -- Sauvageau -- Speller -- Thalheimer -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rosemont) -- Wells -- Young

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 8 of Mr. Harper (Calgary West), seconded by Mr. Ringma (Nanaimo -- Cowichan), -- That Bill C-63 be amended, in Clause 12, by replacing line 41 on page 4 with the following:

    ``referred to in subparagraph 71.011(a)(ii) or (iii). The''

The question was put on Motion No. 8 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 55, NAYS: 112. (See list under Division No. 176)

Accordingly, Motion No. 12 was also negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 11 of Mr. Langlois (Bellechasse), seconded by Mr. de Savoye (Portneuf), -- That Bill C-63, in Clause 22, be amended by adding after line 27 on page 10 the following:

      ``71.011(1) The Chief Electoral Officer shall endeavour to conclude agreements with provinces and territories that maintain permanent lists of electors and the agreements shall provide for the use of such lists by the Chief Electoral Officer.
      (2) Notwithstanding any other provision of this Act, where the Chief Electoral Officer has entered into an agreement under subsection (1) for the use of a permanent list of electors, the Chief Electoral Officer shall, for the purposes of holding an election, use any lists obtained under such an agreement.''

The question was put on Motion No. 11 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 25, NAYS: 142. (See list under division No. 183)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 13 of Mr. Harper (Calgary West), seconded by Mr. Ringma (Nanaimo -- Cowichan), -- That Bill C-63, in Clause 22, be amended by deleting lines 16 to 38 on page 11.

The question was put on Motion No. 13 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 30, NAYS: 137. (See list under Division No. 177)

Group No. 6

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 24 of Mr. Langlois (Bellechasse), seconded by Mr. de Savoye (Portneuf), -- That Bill C-63 be amended by adding after line 23 on page 33 the following new Clause:

      ``64. The Act is amended by adding the following after section 301:
      301.1 Chapter II of Title III of the Quebec Election Act applies to this Act, with such modifications as the circumstances require.''

The question was put on Motion No. 24 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 25, NAYS: 142. (See list under Division No. 183)

Accordingly, Motion No. 33 was also negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 29 of Mr. Langlois (Bellechasse), seconded by Mr. de Savoye (Portneuf), -- That Bill C-63 be amended by adding after line 27 on page 38 the following new Clause:

      ``86.1. The Act is amended by adding the following after section 331:
      331. (1) Before an amendment to this Act is passed, the Governor in Council shall table a draft Bill in the House of Commons.
      (2) Within sixty days after the draft Bill is tabled, the Governor in Council shall consult the recognized political parties in the House of Commons.''

The question was put on Motion No. 29 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 55, NAYS: 112. (See list under Division No. 176)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 30 of Mr. Langlois (Bellechasse), seconded by Mr. de Savoye (Portneuf), -- That Bill C-63, in Clause 87, be amended by deleting lines 5 and 6 on page 39.

The question was put on Motion No. 30 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 25, NAYS: 142. (See list under Division No. 183)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 31 of Mr. Langlois (Bellechasse), seconded by Mr. de Savoye (Portneuf), -- That Bill C-63, in Clause 88, be amended by replacing lines 5 and 6 on page 40 with the following:

      ``88. Section 4 of the Referendum Act is replaced by the following:
      4. No proclamation may be issued
      (a) when the House of Commons stands dissolved; or
      (b) before, or more than forty-five days after, the text of the referendum question has been approved under section 5 or 5.1.
      89. Sections 8 and 9 of the Act are repealed. ''

The question was put on Motion No. 31 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 25, NAYS: 142 (See list under Division No. 183)

Accordingly, Motion No. 32 was also negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 35 of Mr. Langlois (Bellechasse), seconded by Mr. de Savoye (Portneuf), -- That Bill C-63, in Clause 92, be amended by replacing line 28 on page 40 with the following:

    ``before it are replaced by the following:
      39. (1) The Government of Canada shall not give effect to a vote on a referendum question or take any action whatsoever with respect to that vote unless a majority of the legislatures of the provinces have first given their consent, and this majority shall include
      (a) Ontario;
      (b) Quebec;
      (c) British Columbia;
      (d) two or more of the Atlantic provinces that have, according to the then latest general census, combined populations of at least fifty per cent of the population of all the Atlantic provinces; and
      (e) two or more of the Prairie provinces that have, according to the then latest general census, combined populations of at least fifty per cent of the population of all the Prairie provinces.
      (2) In this section,
    ``Atlantic provinces'' means the provinces of Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, Prince Edward Island and Newfoundland;
    ``Prairie provinces'' means the provinces of Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta.''

The question was put on Motion No. 35 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 25, NAYS: 142 (See list under Division No. 183)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 36 of Mr. Langlois (Bellechasse), seconded by Mr. de Savoye (Portneuf), -- That Bill C-63 be amended by adding after line 28 on page 40 the following new Clause:

      ``93. The Act is amended by adding the following after section 39:
      39.1(1) The provisions of an Act of a legislature respecting a referendum or referendums prevail over any inconsistent provisions in this Act.
      (2) Where the result of a referendum held under an Act of a legislature respecting a referendum or referendums differs from the result of a referendum held under this Act, the result obtained under the Act of the legislature shall prevail.''

The question was put on Motion No. 36 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 25, NAYS: 142 (See list under Division No. 183)

Group No. 7

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 37 of Mr. Harper (Calgary West), seconded by Mr. Gouk (Kootenay West -- Revelstoke), -- That Bill C-63, in Clause 94, be amended by replacing line 4 on page 43 with the following:

    ``and 52 of this Act come into force on August 1,''

The question was put on Motion No. 37 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 59, NAYS: 108. (See list under Division No. 182)

Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Labour) for Mr. Gray (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons and Solicitor General of Canada), seconded by Mr. Boudria (Minister for International Cooperation and Minister responsible for Francophonie), moved, -- That Bill C-63, An Act to amend the Canada Elections Act and the Referendum Act, as amended, be concurred in at report stage with further amendments and read a second time.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

YEAS: 112, NAYS: 55. (See list under Division No. 179)

Accordingly, the Bill, as amended, was concurred in at report stage with further amendments, read the second time and ordered for a third reading at the next sitting of the House.

PETITIONS FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, a petition certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions was filed as follows:

-- by Mr. Godfrey (Don Valley West), concerning taxes on books (No. 352-1292).

ADJOURNMENT

At 7:12 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).