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Minutes of Proceedings
Conservative
Bloc Québécois
The committee commenced its clause-by-clause study of the Bill.
Pursuant to Standing Order 75(1), consideration of Clause 1 (short title) and Preamble was postponed.
The Chair called Clause 2.
Clause 2 was allowed to stand.
Clause 3 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Han Dong, Kristina Michaud, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 7;
NAYS: Dan Albas, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp — 4.
On Clause 4,
Pursuant to the order adopted by the committee on Thursday, October 8, 2020, the following amendment, submitted by Elizabeth May for the consideration of the committee, was deemed moved:
That Bill C-12, in Clause 4, be amended by replacing line 13 on page 3 with the following:
“sions based on the best scientific information available, in order to enable immediate and ambitious action,”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Elizabeth May and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Kristina Michaud — 1;
NAYS: Dan Albas, Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Han Dong, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 10.
“and to promote transparency, accountability and immediate and ambitious action in rela-”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Taylor Bachrach and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Han Dong, Kristina Michaud, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 7;
NAYS: Dan Albas, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp — 4.
Pursuant to the order adopted by the committee on Thursday, October 8, 2020, the following amendment, submitted by Elizabeth May for the consideration of the committee, was deemed moved:
That Bill C-12, in Clause 4, be amended by replacing line 15 on page 3 with the following:
“tion to achieving those targets, in support of achieving the goal, set in the Paris Agreement, done in Paris on December 12, 2015, of limiting the global temperature increase to 1.5°C and of achieving”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Elizabeth May and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Taylor Bachrach, Kristina Michaud — 2;
NAYS: Dan Albas, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Han Dong, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 9.
“net-zero emissions in Canada by no later than 2050 and respecting Canada’s obligations under the Paris Agreement through the implementation of accountability mechanisms for the reduction of those emissions.”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Kristina Michaud and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Taylor Bachrach, Kristina Michaud — 2;
NAYS: Dan Albas, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Han Dong, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 9.
After debate, Clause 4, as amended, carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Han Dong, Kristina Michaud, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 7;
NAYS: Dan Albas, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp — 4.
After debate, Clause 5 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Han Dong, Kristina Michaud, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 7;
NAYS: Dan Albas, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp — 4.
On Clause 6,
Kristina Michaud moved, — That Bill C-12, in Clause 6, be amended by replacing lines 21 and 22 on page 3 with the following:“6 The national greenhouse gas emissions target is net-zero emissions as soon as possible, and no later than 2050.”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Kristina Michaud and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Kristina Michaud — 1;
NAYS: Dan Albas, Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Han Dong, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 10.
Pursuant to the order adopted by the committee on Thursday, October 8, 2020, the following amendment, submitted by Elizabeth May for the consideration of the committee, was deemed moved:
That Bill C-12, in Clause 6, be amended by replacing line 22 on page 3 with the following:
“is net-zero emissions and must occur through an absolute greenhouse gas emissions reduction of at least 90% below 2005 levels.”
The Chair ruled the proposed amendment inadmissible because it was beyond the scope of the Bill, as provided on page 770 of House of Commons Procedure and Practice, Third Edition.
Pursuant to the order adopted by the committee on Thursday, October 8, 2020, the following amendment, submitted by Elizabeth May for the consideration of the committee, was deemed moved:
That Bill C-12, in Clause 6, be amended by adding after line 22 on page 3 the following:
“(2) The Minister may set additional targets with respect to absolute greenhouse gas emissions reductions.”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Elizabeth May and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Kristina Michaud — 1;
NAYS: Dan Albas, Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Han Dong, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 10.
Clause 6 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Han Dong, Kristina Michaud, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 7;
NAYS: Dan Albas, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp — 4.
On new Clause 6.1,
Raj Saini moved, — That Bill C-12 be amended by adding after line 22 on page 3 the following new clause:“For greater certainty
6.1 For greater certainty, nothing in this Act precludes attaining net-zero emissions before 2050.”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Raj Saini and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Han Dong, Kristina Michaud, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 7;
NAYS: Dan Albas, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp — 4.
On Clause 7,
Dan Albas moved, — That Bill C-12, in Clause 7, be amended by replacing line 23 on page 3 with the following:“7 (1) The Governor in Council must, on the advice of the Minister, set a national greenhouse gas”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Dan Albas and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Dan Albas, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp — 4;
NAYS: Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Han Dong, Kristina Michaud, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 7.
Pursuant to the order adopted by the committee on Thursday, October 8, 2020, the following amendment, submitted by Elizabeth May for the consideration of the committee, was deemed moved:
That Bill C-12, in Clause 7, be amended by adding after line 25 on page 3 the following:
“(1.1) The national greenhouse gas emissions target for 2025 is 25% below 2005 levels.”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Elizabeth May and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: — 0;
NAYS: Dan Albas, Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Han Dong, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Kristina Michaud, Brad Redekopp, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 11.
Pursuant to the order adopted by the committee on Thursday, October 8, 2020, the following amendment, submitted by Elizabeth May for the consideration of the committee, was deemed moved:
That Bill C-12, in Clause 7, be amended by adding after line 25 on page 3 the following:
“(1.1) The national greenhouse gas emissions target for 2025 is 20% below 2005 levels.”
The question was put on the amendment of Elizabeth May and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: — 0;
NAYS: Dan Albas, Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Han Dong, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Kristina Michaud, Brad Redekopp, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 11.
Pursuant to the order adopted by the committee on Thursday, October 8, 2020, the following amendment, submitted by Elizabeth May for the consideration of the committee, was deemed moved:
That Bill C-12, in Clause 7, be amended by adding after line 25 on page 3 the following:
“(1.1) The national greenhouse gas emissions target for 2025 is 15% below 2005 levels.”
The question was put on the amendment of Elizabeth May and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: — 0;
NAYS: Dan Albas, Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Han Dong, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Kristina Michaud, Brad Redekopp, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 11.
“(2) The Governor in Council must set the national greenhouse gas”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Dan Albas and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Dan Albas, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp — 4;
NAYS: Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Han Dong, Kristina Michaud, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 7.
“(2) The greenhouse gas emissions target for 2030 must be at least 37.5% below 1990 levels.”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Kristina Michaud and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Kristina Michaud — 1;
NAYS: Dan Albas, Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Han Dong, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 10.
At 5:57 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 6:05 p.m., the sitting resumed.
“(1.1) Each greenhouse gas emissions target must represent a progression beyond the previous one.
(2) The national greenhouse gas emissions target for 2030 is Canada’s nationally determined contribution for that year, communicated under the Paris Agreement, as amended from time to time.
(3) Each greenhouse gas emissions target must be as ambitious as Canada’s most recent nationally determined contribution communicated under the Paris Agreement.”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Raj Saini and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Han Dong, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 6;
NAYS: Dan Albas, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Kristina Michaud, Brad Redekopp — 5.
“(4) The Governor in Council must set each subsequent national”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Dan Albas and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Dan Albas, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp — 4;
NAYS: Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Han Dong, Monique Pauzé, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 7.
“(4) The Minister must set each national greenhouse gas emissions target subsequent to that of 2025 at least five years before”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Monique Pauzé and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Matt Jeneroux, Monique Pauzé — 2;
NAYS: Dan Albas, Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Han Dong, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 9.
Pursuant to the order adopted by the committee on Thursday, October 8, 2020, the following amendment, submitted by Elizabeth May for the consideration of the committee, was deemed moved:
That Bill C-12, in Clause 7, be amended by replacing line 5 on page 4 with the following:
“greenhouse gas emissions target at least 10 years before”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Elizabeth May and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Monique Pauzé — 1;
NAYS: Dan Albas, Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Han Dong, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 10.
“greenhouse gas emissions target at least 9 years 366 days before”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Taylor Bachrach and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Francis Drouin, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 6;
NAYS: Dan Albas, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Monique Pauzé, Brad Redekopp — 5.
“(5) Within one year after a greenhouse gas emissions target is set for a milestone year after 2030, the Minister must publish a high level description, similar to Canada’s nationally determined contribution communicated under the Paris Agreement, of the key greenhouse gas emissions reduction measures the Government of Canada intends to take to achieve that target and the latest projections of the annual greenhouse gas emissions, taking into account the combined impact of those measures in the period between the publication of the description and the milestone year in question.”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Yvan Baker and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Francis Drouin, Monique Pauzé, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 7;
NAYS: Dan Albas, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp — 4.
Clause 7, as amended, carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Francis Drouin, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 6;
NAYS: Dan Albas, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Monique Pauzé, Brad Redekopp — 5.
On Clause 8,
Dan Albas moved, — That Bill C-12, in Clause 8, be amended by replacing line 8 on page 4 with the following:“Governor in Council must take into account the best scientific infor-”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Dan Albas and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Dan Albas, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp — 4;
NAYS: Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Francis Drouin, Monique Pauzé, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 7.
Pursuant to the order adopted by the committee on Thursday, October 8, 2020, the following amendment, submitted by Elizabeth May for the consideration of the committee, was deemed moved:
That Bill C-12, in Clause 8, be amended by replacing lines 8 and 9 on page 4 with the following:
“Minister must base the target on the best scientific information available as well as on Canada’s international com-”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Elizabeth May and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Monique Pauzé — 1;
NAYS: Dan Albas, Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Francis Drouin, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 10.
“Minister must take into account
(a) the best scientific information available;
(b) Canada’s international commitments with respect to climate change;
(c) Indigeneous knowledge; and
(d) submissions provided by the advisory body under section 13 and advice it provided in its report under subsection 22(1).”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Raj Saini and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Francis Drouin, Monique Pauzé, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 7;
NAYS: Dan Albas, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp — 4.
After debate, Clause 8, as amended, carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Francis Drouin, Monique Pauzé, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 7;
NAYS: Dan Albas, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp — 4.
On new Clause 8.1,
Pursuant to the order adopted by the committee on Thursday, October 8, 2020, the following amendment, submitted by Elizabeth May for the consideration of the committee, was deemed moved:
That Bill C-12 be amended by adding after line 10 on page 4 the following new clause:
“8.1 The Minister must ensure that all measures and strategies within federal authority are implemented to ensure that the national greenhouse gas emissions target for each milestone year is met and that the national greenhouse gas emissions target for 2050 is met.”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Elizabeth May and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Taylor Bachrach, Monique Pauzé — 2;
NAYS: Dan Albas, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Francis Drouin, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 9.
At 6:39 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 6:46 p.m., the sitting resumed.
On Clause 9,
Dan Albas moved, — That Bill C-12, in Clause 9, be amended by replacing line 11 on page 4 with the following:“9 (1) The Governor in Council must, on the advice of the Minister, establish a greenhouse gas”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Dan Albas and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Dan Albas, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp — 4;
NAYS: Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Francis Drouin, Monique Pauzé, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 7.
“(2) The Governor in Council must establish an emissions reduction”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Dan Albas and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Dan Albas, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp — 4;
NAYS: Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Francis Drouin, Monique Pauzé, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 7.
Pursuant to the order adopted by the committee on Thursday, October 8, 2020, the following amendment, submitted by Elizabeth May for the consideration of the committee, was deemed moved:
That Bill C-12, in Clause 9, be amended by replacing line 15 on page 4 with the following:
“plan for 2025 and 2030 within six months after the day on which”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Elizabeth May and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Monique Pauzé — 1;
NAYS: Dan Albas, Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Francis Drouin, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 10.
Pursuant to the order adopted by the committee on Thursday, October 8, 2020, the following amendment, submitted by Elizabeth May for the consideration of the committee, was deemed moved:
That Bill C-12, in Clause 9, be amended by replacing line 15 on page 4 with the following:
“plan for 2025 within six months after the day on which”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Elizabeth May and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Monique Pauzé — 1;
NAYS: Dan Albas, Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Francis Drouin, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 10.
At 8:01 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.