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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
37th PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 188

Tuesday, May 21, 2002

10:00 a.m.



Prayers

Vacancy

The Speaker informed the House that a vacancy had occurred in the representation in the House of Commons, for the Electoral District of Berthier—Montcalm, in the Province of Quebec, by reason of the resignation of Mr. Bellehumeur (Berthier--Montcalm) , and that, pursuant to paragraph 25(1)(b) of the Parliament of Canada Act, he had addressed, earlier today, his warrant to the Chief Electoral Officer for the issue of a writ for the election of a member to fill the vacancy.

Daily Routine Of Business

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Jordan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Prime Minister) laid upon the Table, — Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

— No. 371-0600 concerning terrorism. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-371-89-08;

— Nos. 371-0626, 371-0627, 371-0628, 371-0629, 371-0630, 371-0631 and 371-0632 concerning transportation. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-371-48-04;

— No. 371-0641 concerning international trade. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-371-15-07;

— No. 371-0642 concerning the Supreme Court Act. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-371-99-01;

— No. 371-0643 concerning health care services. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-371-3-39;

— No. 371-0645 concerning oil products. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-371-29-07;

— No. 371-0649 concerning Greece. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-371-100-01;

— Nos. 371-0654, 371-0663, 371-0686 and 371-0700 concerning the criminal justice system. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-371-71-04;

— No. 371-0665 concerning abortion. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-371-11-05;

— No. 371-0670 concerning Taiwan. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-371-101-01.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

— by Mr. St-Julien (Abitibi--Baie-James--Nunavik) , four concerning the national debt (Nos. 371-0706 to 371-0709);

— by Mr. Adams (Peterborough) , one concerning child labour (No. 371-0710) and one concerning the Canada Post Corporation (No. 371-0711);

— by Mr. Lebel (Chambly) , one concerning the Canada Post Corporation (No. 371-0712);

— by Mr. MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough) , two concerning the fishing industry (Nos. 371-0713 and 371-0714).

Questions on Order Paper

Mr. Jordan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Prime Minister) presented the answers to questions Q-133, Q-134, Q-135, Q-136, Q-137, Q-138, Q-139, Q-141 and Q-142 on the Order Paper.


Pursuant to Standing Order 39(7), Mr. Jordan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Prime Minister) presented the return to the following question made into an Order for Return:

    Q-132 — Mr. Benoit (Lakeland) — With respect to a trip to Mexico taken in January 2002 by the Minister of National Defence: (a) what was the complete itinerary of the trip; (b) what are the names and status of the individuals with whom he met; (c) what are the names and status of the individuals who accompanied the Minister; and (d) what are the details of the means of travel and accommodation for the Minister? — Sessional Paper No. 8555-371-132.

Government Orders

The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Health of Bill C-56, An Act respecting assisted human reproduction.

Ms. McLellan (Minister of Health) , seconded by Mr. Bevilacqua (Secretary of State (Science, Research and Development)) , moved, — That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Health.

Debate arose thereon.

Motions

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That at the conclusion of the debate later today on motion M-478 standing in the name Mr. Herron (Fundy--Royal) , all questions necessary to dispose of the motion be deemed put and a recorded division deemed requested and deferred until Wednesday, May 22, 2002, at the expiry of the time provided for Oral Questions.

Government Orders

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Ms. McLellan (Minister of Health) , seconded by Mr. Bevilacqua (Secretary of State (Science, Research and Development)) , — That Bill C-56, An Act respecting assisted human reproduction, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Health.

The debate continued.

Statements By Members

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

Certificates of Election

The Speaker informed the House that the Clerk had received from the Chief Electoral Officer a certificate of the election of Mr. Efford (Bonavista--Trinity--Conception) .

Mr. Efford (Bonavista--Trinity--Conception) , having taken and subscribed the oath required by law, took his seat in the House.


The Speaker informed the House that the Clerk had received from the Chief Electoral Officer a certificate of the election of Ms. Frulla (Verdun--Saint-Henri--Saint-Paul--Pointe Saint-Charles) .

Ms. Frulla (Verdun--Saint-Henri--Saint-Paul--Pointe Saint-Charles) , having taken and subscribed the oath required by law, took her seat in the House.


The Speaker informed the House that the Clerk had received from the Chief Electoral Officer a certificate of the election of Mr. Masse (Windsor West) .

Mr. Masse (Windsor West) , having taken and subscribed the oath required by law, took his seat in the House.


The Speaker informed the House that the Clerk had received from the Chief Electoral Officer a certificate of the election of Mr. Pacetti (Saint-Léonard--Saint-Michel) .

Mr. Pacetti (Saint-Léonard--Saint-Michel) , having taken and subscribed the oath required by law, took his seat in the House.


The Speaker informed the House that the Clerk had received from the Chief Electoral Officer a certificate of the election of Mr. Simard (Saint Boniface) .

Mr. Simard (Saint Boniface) , having taken and subscribed the oath required by law, took his seat in the House.


The Speaker informed the House that the Clerk had received from the Chief Electoral Officer a certificate of the election of Mr. Harper (Calgary Southwest) .

Mr. Harper (Calgary Southwest) , having taken and subscribed the oath required by law, took his seat in the House.

Oral Questions

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

Government Orders

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Ms. McLellan (Minister of Health) , seconded by Mr. Bevilacqua (Secretary of State (Science, Research and Development)) , — That Bill C-56, An Act respecting assisted human reproduction, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Health.

The debate continued.


Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport) , seconded by Mr. Dion (Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs) , — That Bill C-55, An Act to amend certain Acts of Canada, and to enact measures for implementing the Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention, in order to enhance public safety, be now read a second time and referred to a legislative committee;

And of the amendment of Mr. Moore (Port Moody--Coquitlam--Port Coquitlam) , seconded by Mr. Kenney (Calgary Southeast) , — That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word "That" and substituting the following:

    “this House declines to give second reading to Bill C-55, An Act to amend certain Acts of Canada, and to enact measures for implementing the Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention, in order to enhance public safety, since the Bill reflects several principles unrelated to transport and government operations, rendering it impractical for the Standing Committee on Transport and Government Operations to properly consider it.”.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the subamendment of Mr. Bigras (Rosemont--Petite-Patrie) , seconded by Ms. Dalphond-Guiral (Laval Centre) , — That the amendment be amended by adding after the word “principles” the following:

    “that violate human rights and freedoms, which have been denounced by the Privacy Commissioner and are”.

The question was put on the subamendment and it was negatived on the following division:

+

(Division No. 285 -- Vote no 285)

YEAS: 49, NAYS: 184

YEAS -- POUR
Bachand (Richmond--Arthabaska)
Bergeron
Bigras
Blaikie
Borotsik
Bourgeois
Brien
Cardin
Clark
Comartin
Crête
Dalphond-Guiral
Davies
Desjarlais
Desrochers
Doyle
Duceppe
Gagnon (Québec)
Gagnon (Champlain)
Gauthier
Girard-Bujold
Godin
Guay
Herron
Keddy (South Shore)
Laframboise
Lalonde
Lebel
Lill
Loubier
MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough)
Mark
Masse
McDonough
Ménard
Nystrom
Paquette
Perron
Picard (Drummond)
Plamondon
Proctor
Rocheleau
Roy
Sauvageau
St-Hilaire
Stoffer
Venne
Wasylycia-Leis
Wayne -- 49
NAYS -- CONTRE
Ablonczy
Adams
Alcock
Allard
Anders
Anderson (Cypress Hills—Grasslands)
Assad
Bagnell
Bailey
Barnes
Beaumier
Bélanger
Bennett
Benoit
Bertrand
Bevilacqua
Binet
Blondin-Andrew
Bonin
Boudria
Bradshaw
Breitkreuz
Brown
Bryden
Bulte
Burton
Caccia
Calder
Caplan
Carignan
Carroll
Casson
Castonguay
Catterall
Cauchon
Chatters
Coderre
Collenette
Comuzzi
Copps
Cotler
Cullen
Cummins
Cuzner
Day
DeVillers
Dion
Discepola
Dromisky
Drouin
Duncan
Duplain
Easter
Efford
Eggleton
Elley
Epp
Eyking
Farrah
Finlay
Fitzpatrick
Fontana
Frulla
Gallant
Gallaway
Godfrey
Goldring
Goodale
Gouk
Graham
Grewal
Grey
Hanger
Harb
Harper
Harris
Harvard
Harvey
Hill (Macleod)
Hill (Prince George--Peace River)
Hilstrom
Hinton
Hubbard
Ianno
Jackson
Jaffer
Jennings
Johnston
Jordan
Karetak-Lindell
Kenney (Calgary Southeast)
Keyes
Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast)
Knutson
Lastewka
Lee
Leung
Lincoln
Longfield
Lunn (Saanich—Gulf Islands)
Lunney (Nanaimo—Alberni)
Macklin
Mahoney
Malhi
Maloney
Manley
Marcil
Marleau
Martin (LaSalle--Émard)
Mayfield
McCallum
McLellan
McNally
Meredith
Merrifield
Minna
Mitchell
Moore
Murphy
Myers
Nault
Neville
Normand
O'Brien (London--Fanshawe)
O'Reilly
Obhrai
Owen
Pacetti
Pagtakhan
Pallister
Pankiw
Parrish
Patry
Penson
Peric
Peschisolido
Peterson
Pettigrew
Phinney
Pillitteri
Pratt
Price
Proulx
Rajotte
Redman
Reed (Halton)
Reid (Lanark—Carleton)
Reynolds
Richardson
Ritz
Robillard
Rock
Saada
Savoy
Schmidt
Scott
Sgro
Shepherd
Simard
Skelton
Solberg
Sorenson
Speller
Spencer
St-Jacques
St-Julien
St. Denis
Stewart
Strahl
Szabo
Thibault (West Nova)
Thibeault (Saint-Lambert)
Thompson (Wild Rose)
Tirabassi
Tonks
Ur
Valeri
Vanclief
Whelan
White (North Vancouver)
Wilfert
Williams
Wood
Yelich -- 184
PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Anderson (Victoria)
Asselin
Bachand (Saint-Jean)
Bonwick
Byrne
Dubé
Fournier
Guimond
Lanctôt
LeBlanc
Marceau
McKay (Scarborough East)
Regan
Torsney
Tremblay
Volpe


Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Ms. Caplan (Minister of National Revenue) , seconded by Mr. Goodale (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , — That Bill C-47, An Act respecting the taxation of spirits, wine and tobacco and the treatment of ships' stores, be now read a third time and do pass.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

-

(Division No. 286 -- Vote no 286)

YEAS: 182, NAYS: 49

YEAS -- POUR
Ablonczy
Adams
Alcock
Allard
Anders
Anderson (Cypress Hills—Grasslands)
Assad
Bagnell
Bailey
Barnes
Beaumier
Bélanger
Bennett
Benoit
Bertrand
Bevilacqua
Binet
Blondin-Andrew
Bonin
Boudria
Bradshaw
Breitkreuz
Brown
Bryden
Bulte
Burton
Caccia
Calder
Caplan
Carignan
Carroll
Casson
Castonguay
Catterall
Cauchon
Chatters
Coderre
Collenette
Comuzzi
Copps
Cotler
Cullen
Cummins
Cuzner
Day
DeVillers
Dion
Discepola
Dromisky
Drouin
Duncan
Duplain
Easter
Efford
Eggleton
Elley
Epp
Eyking
Farrah
Finlay
Fitzpatrick
Fontana
Frulla
Gallant
Gallaway
Godfrey
Goldring
Goodale
Gouk
Graham
Grewal
Grey
Hanger
Harb
Harper
Harris
Harvard
Harvey
Hill (Macleod)
Hill (Prince George--Peace River)
Hilstrom
Hinton
Hubbard
Ianno
Jackson
Jaffer
Jennings
Johnston
Jordan
Karetak-Lindell
Kenney (Calgary Southeast)
Keyes
Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast)
Knutson
Lastewka
Lee
Leung
Lincoln
Longfield
Lunn (Saanich—Gulf Islands)
Lunney (Nanaimo—Alberni)
Macklin
Mahoney
Malhi
Maloney
Manley
Marcil
Marleau
Mayfield
McCallum
McLellan
McNally
Meredith
Merrifield
Minna
Mitchell
Moore
Murphy
Myers
Nault
Neville
Normand
O'Brien (London--Fanshawe)
O'Reilly
Obhrai
Owen
Pacetti
Pagtakhan
Pallister
Pankiw
Parrish
Patry
Penson
Peric
Peschisolido
Peterson
Pettigrew
Phinney
Pillitteri
Pratt
Price
Proulx
Rajotte
Redman
Reed (Halton)
Reid (Lanark—Carleton)
Reynolds
Richardson
Ritz
Robillard
Rock
Saada
Savoy
Schmidt
Scott
Sgro
Shepherd
Simard
Skelton
Solberg
Sorenson
Spencer
St-Jacques
St-Julien
St. Denis
Stewart
Strahl
Szabo
Thibault (West Nova)
Thibeault (Saint-Lambert)
Thompson (Wild Rose)
Tirabassi
Tonks
Ur
Valeri
Vanclief
Whelan
White (North Vancouver)
Wilfert
Williams
Wood
Yelich -- 182
NAYS -- CONTRE
Bachand (Richmond--Arthabaska)
Bergeron
Bigras
Blaikie
Borotsik
Bourgeois
Brien
Cardin
Clark
Comartin
Crête
Dalphond-Guiral
Davies
Desjarlais
Desrochers
Doyle
Duceppe
Gagnon (Québec)
Gagnon (Champlain)
Gauthier
Girard-Bujold
Godin
Guay
Herron
Keddy (South Shore)
Laframboise
Lalonde
Lebel
Lill
Loubier
MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough)
Mark
Masse
McDonough
Ménard
Nystrom
Paquette
Perron
Picard (Drummond)
Plamondon
Proctor
Rocheleau
Roy
Sauvageau
St-Hilaire
Stoffer
Venne
Wasylycia-Leis
Wayne -- 49
PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Anderson (Victoria)
Asselin
Bachand (Saint-Jean)
Bonwick
Byrne
Dubé
Fournier
Guimond
Lanctôt
LeBlanc
Marceau
McKay (Scarborough East)
Regan
Torsney
Tremblay
Volpe

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.

Private Members' Business

At 6:06 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(7), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Herron (Fundy--Royal) , seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon--Souris) , — That, in the opinion of this House, the government should consider introducing a tax credit based on the repayment of Canada Student Loan principal, to a maximum of 10% of the principal, per year, for the first ten years after graduation provided the individual remains in Canada. (Private Members' Business M-478)

The debate continued.

Pursuant to Order made earlier today, the question was deemed put on the motion and the recorded division was deemed requested and deferred until Wednesday, May 22, 2002, at the expiry of the time provided for Oral Questions.

Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:

— by the Speaker — Report of the Chief Electoral Officer for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Privacy Act, R.S. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2). — Sessional Paper No. 8561-371-645-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

— by Mr. Boudria (Minister of Public Works and Government Services) — Reports of the Royal Canadian Mint for the year 2001, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). — Sessional Paper No. 8561-371-443-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

— by Mr. Boudria (Minister of Public Works and Government Services) — Summaries of the Corporate Plan for 2002-03 to 2006-07 and of the Capital and Operating Budgets for 2002-03 of Defence Construction (1951) Limited, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R. S. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 125(4). — Sessional Paper No. 8562-371-835-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Transport and Government Operations)

— by Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance) — Report of the Canadian International Trade Tribunal entitled “Review of recommendation regarding certain ring-spun yarns”, dated May 3, 2002, pursuant to the Canada-United States Free Trade Agreement Implementation Act, S.C. 1988, c. 65, s. 54. — Sessional Paper No. 8560-371-572-10. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Finance)

— by Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance) — Reports of the Office of the Superintendent of Financial Institutions for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs.72(2). — Sessional Paper No. 8561-371-528-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

— by Mr. Thibault (Minister of Fisheries and Oceans) — Response of the government, pursuant to Standing Order 109, to the Sixth Report of the Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans (problems facing Newfoundland shrimpers and related activities) (Sessional Paper No. 8510-371-122), presented to the House on Wednesday, December 12, 2001. — Sessional Paper No. 8512-371-122.

Adjournment

At 6:52 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 2:00 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).