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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
36th PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 041

Monday, December 1, 1997

11:00 a.m.



PRAYERS

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 11:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(6), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Natural Resources and Government Operations of Bill C-216, An Act to amend the Access to Information Act (Crown corporations).

Mr. Gilmour (Nanaimo -- Alberni), seconded by Mr. White (Langley -- Abbotsford), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Natural Resources and Government Operations.

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 93, the Order was dropped to the bottom of the order of precedence on the Order Paper.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

Notice having been given at a previous sitting under the provisions of Standing Order 78(3), Mr. Boudria (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded Mrs. Stewart (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development), moved, -- That in relation to Bill C-2, An Act to establish the Canada Pension Plan Investment Board and to amend the Canada Pension Plan and the Old Age Security Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, not more than one further sitting day shall be allotted to the consideration of the report stage of the bill and one sitting day shall be allotted to the third reading stage of the said bill; and

That, fifteen minutes before the expiry of the time ordinarily provided for government business on the day allotted to the consideration of the report stage and on the day allotted to the third reading stage of the said bill, any proceedings before the House shall be interrupted, if required for the purpose of this Order, and in turn every question necessary for the disposal of the stage of the bill then under consideration shall be put forthwith and successively without further debate or amendment.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 33)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Guarnieri -- Harvard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Robillard -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 137

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Alarie -- Anders -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Brien -- Brison -- Cadman -- Casey -- Charest -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Dumas -- Earle -- Elley -- Epp -- Forseth -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Hardy -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvey -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- Lowther -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Marchand -- Mark -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Mayfield -- McDonough -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Muise -- Obhrai -- Penson -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Ramsay -- Rocheleau -- Schmidt -- Solberg -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- St-Jacques -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- 91

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Baker -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Duceppe -- Eggleton -- Graham -- Grose -- Guay -- Hubbard -- Karetak-Lindell -- Loubier -- Marceau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Mitchell -- Perron -- Richardson -- Sauvageau -- Turp


MOTIONS

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, -- That, for this day only, the end of Government Orders will be deemed to be 5:30 p.m. instead of 6:30 p.m.


The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill C-2, An Act to establish the Canada Pension Plan Investment Board and to amend the Canada Pension Plan and the Old Age Security Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, as reported by the Standing Committee on Finance with amendments;

And of the motions in Group No. 6 (Motions Nos. 11, 13 to 19 and 22).

Motion No. 11 of Mr. Nystrom (Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), -- That Bill C-2 be amended by deleting Clause 59.

Motion No. 13 of Mr. Nystrom (Qu'Appelle), -- seconded by Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 61, be amended by

    (a) replacing line 3 on page 31 with the following:
      ``20. The amount''
    (b) deleting lines 8 and 9 on page 31.

Motion No. 14 of Mr. Dubé (Madawaska -- Restigouche), seconded by Mr. Jones (Markham), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 61, be amended by replacing lines 8 and 9 on page 31 with the following:

      ``(2) For each year beginning in 1997 and ending in 2006, the amount of a Year's Basic Exemption is $3,500.''

Motion No. 15 of Mr. Nystrom (Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 67, be amended by adding after line 36 on page 36 the following:

      ``(4.2) Employer contributions for a self-employed person earning less than the prescribed threshold income shall, for the years 1999, 2000 and 2001, be calculated on a progressive scale based on annual income in accordance with the regulations.
      (4.3) Every regulation made pursuant to subsection (4.2) shall be laid before both Houses of Parliament within the first fifteen days of the next session after the date it is made, and the regulation shall remain in force until the day immediately succeeding the date of prorogation of that session of Parliament and no longer unless during the session it is approved by resolution of both Houses of Parliament.''

Motion No. 16 of Mr. Nystrom (Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), -- That Bill C-2 be amended by deleting Clause 68.

Motion No. 17 of Mr. Nystrom (Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), -- That Bill C-2 be amended by deleting Clause 69.

Motion No. 18 of Mr. Nystrom (Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 71, be amended by adding after line 23 on page 41 the following:

      ``(4) For the purposes of subsections (1) and (2), the Year's Maximum Pensionable Earnings for the years 1999, 2000, and 2001 shall be two times the amount calculated under this Act.''

Motion No. 19 of Mr. Nystrom (Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), -- That Bill C-2 be amended by deleting Clause 76.

Motion No. 22 of Mr. Nystrom (Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 94, be amended by replacing lines 35 to 45 on page 73 with the following:

    ``year being generally constant.''

The debate continued on the motions in Group No. 6.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Adams (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

-- Nos. 361-0108, 361-0145 and 361-0161 concerning the highway system. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-11A.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Bevilacqua (Vaughan -- King -- Aurora), from the Standing Committee on Finance, presented the 2nd Report of the Committee -- (Keeping the balance -- Security and Opportunity for Canadians) -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-361-23.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meeting No. 57) was tabled.

Introduction of Government Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. MacAulay (Minister of Labour), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Public Works and Government Services), Bill C-24, An Act to provide for the resumption and continuation of postal services, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Motions

Pursuant to Standing Order 56.1(1), Mr. Boudria (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Public Works and Government Services), moved, -- That, notwithstanding any Standing Order or usual practice of this House, the bill standing in the name of the Minister of Labour, entitled An Act to provide for the resumption and continuation of postal services, shall be disposed of as follows:

Commencing when this Order is adopted and concluding when the said bill is read a third time, the House shall not adjourn except pursuant to a motion by a Minister of the Crown and no Private Members Business shall be taken up;

The said bill may be read twice or thrice in the same sitting;

After being read a second time, the said bill shall be referred to a committee of the whole;

During consideration of the said bill no division may be deferred.

The question was put on the motion and, fewer than 25 Members having risen to object, pursuant to Standing Order 56.1(3), the motion was adopted.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Ms. Wasylycia-Leis (Winnipeg North Centre), one concerning the Canada Pension Plan (No. 361-0251);

-- by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), one concerning the tax system (No. 361- 0252);

-- by Mr. Maloney (Erie -- Lincoln), one concerning nudity (No. 361-0253).

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill C-2, An Act to establish the Canada Pension Plan Investment Board and to amend the Canada Pension Plan and the Old Age Security Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, as reported by the Standing Committee on Finance with amendments;

And of the motions in Group No. 6 (Motions Nos. 11, 13 to 19 and 22).

The debate continued on the motions in Group No. 6.

At 5:15 p.m., pursuant to Order made earlier today and under the provisions of Standing Order 78(3), the Speaker interrupted the proceedings.

The question was put on Motion No. 11 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 13 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motion No. 14, was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 15 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 16 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 17 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 18 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 19 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 22 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

Group No. 7

Mr. Nystrom (Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), moved Motion No. 20, -- That Bill C-2 be amended by deleting Clause 87.

Mr. Nystrom (Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), moved Motion No. 25, -- That Bill C-2 be amended by deleting Clause 107.

The question was put on Motion No. 20 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 25 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions at report stage of Bill C-2, An Act to establish the Canada Pension Plan Investment Board and to amend the Canada Pension Plan and the Old Age Security Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, as reported by the Standing Committee on Finance with amendments.

Group No.1

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 1 of Mr. Nystrom (Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 8, be amended by adding after line 21 on page 4 the following:

      ``(3) The Governor in Council may appoint a panel of experts to review the conflict of interest procedures established by the board of directors under paragraph (2)(b) and to recommend changes to those procedures.
      (4) The Governor in Council may direct the board of directors to adopt any of the recommendations of the panel of experts and to ensure that any procedures adopted are made available to the public.''

The question was put on Motion No. 1 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 34)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Alarie -- Anders -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Brison -- Cadman -- Canuel -- Casey -- Charest -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Earle -- Elley -- Epp -- Forseth -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Hardy -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvey -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- Lowther -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Manning -- Marchand -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McDonough -- McNally -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Muise -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Power -- Ramsay -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Schmidt -- Solberg -- Solomon -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 108

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Guarnieri -- Harvard -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Robillard -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Speller -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 135

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Baker -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Duceppe -- Eggleton -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Graham -- Grose -- Hubbard -- Karetak-Lindell -- Loubier -- Marceau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Mitchell -- Perron -- Richardson -- Sauvageau -- Turp

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 3 of Mr. Dubé (Madawaska -- Restigouche), seconded by Mr. Jones (Markham), -- That Bill C- 2, in Clause 42, be amended by replacing lines 40 to 42 on page 21 with the following:

    ``appointed for a term of five years by the board of directors, and may be removed at any time by the board of directors for cause.
      (1.1) If the board of directors decide to remove the auditor before the auditor's five-year term ends, the board of directors must notify the appropriate provincial Minister of each of the participating provinces giving the reasons for the decision.
      (1.2) The auditor may not be removed unless at least two thirds of the participating provinces having in total not less than two thirds of the population of all of the participating provinces has agreed in writing to the removal.
      (1.3) An auditor who resigns before the end of the five-year term shall notify the board of directors, the Minister and the appropriate Minister of each of the participating provinces giving the reasons for the resignation and make those reasons available to the public.
      (1.4) Where the auditor has resigned or been removed, no person or firm shall accept an appointment or consent to be appointed as auditor until the person or firm has requested and received from the other auditor a written statement of the circumstances and reasons why the other auditor resigned or why, in the other auditor's opinion, the other auditor was removed.
      (1.5) Notwithstanding subsection (1.4), a person or firm may accept an appointment or consent to be appointed as auditor if, within fifteen days after a request under that subsection is made, no reply from the other auditor is received.
      (1.6) Unless subsection (1.5) applies, an appointment as auditor is void if subsection (1.4) has not been complied with.''

The question was put on Motion No. 3 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 108, NAYS: 135. (See list under Division No. 34)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 5 of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Valeri (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Finance), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 47, be amended by replacing lines 10 and 11 on page 25 with the following:

        "47. (1) The Minister shall cause a special examination to be carried out at least once every six years in respect of the"

The question was put on Motion No. 5 and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 35)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alarie -- Alcock -- Anders -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Charest -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Crête -- Cullen -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Earle -- Easter -- Elley -- Epp -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fournier -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Hardy -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Jones -- Jordan -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Konrad -- Kraft Sloan -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- Lebel -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Lowther -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Mark -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McNally -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Morrison -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Pankiw -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Penson -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Power -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Ramsay -- Redman -- Reed -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Saada -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Solberg -- Solomon -- Speller -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- St-Julien -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- Whelan -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- Wood -- 243

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- 0

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Baker -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Duceppe -- Eggleton -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Graham -- Grose -- Hubbard -- Karetak-Lindell -- Loubier -- Marceau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Mitchell -- Perron -- Richardson -- Sauvageau -- Turp

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 21 of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Valeri (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Finance), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 91, be amended by adding after line 22 on page 72 the following:

      "(4) The Investment Board and its auditor shall provide the Auditor General of Canada with any records, accounts, statements or other information that in the opinion of the Auditor General of Canada are necessary to audit the annual financial statements of the Canada Pension Plan."

The question was put on Motion No. 21 and it was agreed to the following division:



(Division--Vote No 36)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alarie -- Alcock -- Anders -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Charest -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Crête -- Cullen -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Earle -- Easter -- Elley -- Epp -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fournier -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Hardy -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Jones -- Jordan -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Konrad -- Kraft Sloan -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- Lebel -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Lowther -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Mark -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McNally -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Morrison -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Pankiw -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Penson -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Power -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Ramsay -- Redman -- Reed -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Saada -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Solberg -- Solomon -- Speller -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- St-Julien -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- Whelan -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- Wood -- 244

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Members--Députés

-- 0

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Baker -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Duceppe -- Eggleton -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Graham -- Grose -- Hubbard -- Karetak-Lindell -- Loubier -- Marceau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Mitchell -- Perron -- Richardson -- Sauvageau -- Turp

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 23 of Mrs. Ablonczy (Calgary -- Nose Hill), seconded by Mr. Epp (Elk Island), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 94, be amended by replacing line 19 on page 74 with the following:

    ``subsection (5), and after reasonable public hearings before the House of Commons standing committee on Finance, by regulation amend the''

The question was put on Motion No. 23 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 37)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bailey -- Benoit -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brison -- Cadman -- Casey -- Charest -- Cummins -- Davies -- Desjarlais -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duncan -- Earle -- Elley -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gilmour -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Hanger -- Hardy -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvey -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Lowther -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Manning -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McDonough -- McNally -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Muise -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Power -- Ramsay -- Robinson -- Schmidt -- Solberg -- Solomon -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 73

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Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alarie -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bergeron -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brien -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Crête -- Cullen -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Easter -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fournier -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harvard -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- Lebel -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Speller -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Hilaire -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 171

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Baker -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Duceppe -- Eggleton -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Graham -- Grose -- Hubbard -- Karetak-Lindell -- Loubier -- Marceau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Mitchell -- Perron -- Richardson -- Sauvageau -- Turp

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 24 of Mr. Nystrom (Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 96, be amended by replacing lines 24 to 26 on page 81 with the following:

    ``period in which the report is prepared;
    (d) set out the manner in which that contribution rate was calculated; and
    (e) describe how the contribution rates presently set out under this Act will affect the income level of future retirees as well as their income share relative to the income of those working.''

The question was put on Motion No. 24 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 38)

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Members--Députés

-- Alarie -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Brien -- Brison -- Canuel -- Casey -- Charest -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Dumas -- Earle -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hardy -- Harvey -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Marchand -- McDonough -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Muise -- Nystrom -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Power -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Solomon -- St-Hilaire -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- 65

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Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Anders -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bailey -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Benoit -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- Cummins -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Easter -- Elley -- Epp -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Gilmour -- Godfrey -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Konrad -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Lowther -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchi -- Mark -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McNally -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Morrison -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Obhrai -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Pankiw -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Penson -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Ramsay -- Redman -- Reed -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Solberg -- Speller -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- St-Julien -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Whelan -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- Wood -- 179

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Baker -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Duceppe -- Eggleton -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Graham -- Grose -- Hubbard -- Karetak-Lindell -- Loubier -- Marceau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Mitchell -- Perron -- Richardson -- Sauvageau -- Turp

Group No. 2

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 2 of Mr. Dubé (Madawaska -- Restigouche), seconded by Mr. Jones (Markham), -- That Bill C- 2 be amended by deleting Clause 37.

The question was put on Motion No. 2 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 39)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bailey -- Benoit -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brison -- Cadman -- Casey -- Charest -- Cummins -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duncan -- Elley -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gilmour -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Hanger -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvey -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Lowther -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Manning -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McNally -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Muise -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Power -- Ramsay -- Schmidt -- Solberg -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Wayne -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 59

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alarie -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bergeron -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brien -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Crête -- Cullen -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dockrill -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Earle -- Easter -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fournier -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goodale -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hardy -- Harvard -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- Lebel -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Massé -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Nystrom -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Solomon -- Speller -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Hilaire -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 185

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Baker -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Duceppe -- Eggleton -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Graham -- Grose -- Hubbard -- Karetak-Lindell -- Loubier -- Marceau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Mitchell -- Perron -- Richardson -- Sauvageau -- Turp

Group No. 3

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 8 of Mr. Dubé (Madawaska -- Restigouche), seconded by Mr. Jones (Markham), -- That Bill C- 2, in Clause 53, be amended by adding after line 15 on page 28 the following:

      ``(1.1) A regulation made under paragraph (1)(b) must reflect the objects of the Board as set out in section 5.''

The question was put on Motion No. 8 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 40)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Alarie -- Anders -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bigras -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Brison -- Cadman -- Canuel -- Casey -- Charest -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Elley -- Epp -- Forseth -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvey -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- Lowther -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Manning -- Marchand -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McNally -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Muise -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Power -- Ramsay -- Rocheleau -- Schmidt -- Solberg -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Venne -- Wayne -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 94

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- Davies -- Desjarlais -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dockrill -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Earle -- Easter -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goodale -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Guarnieri -- Hardy -- Harvard -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Laliberte -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Massé -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Nystrom -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Solomon -- Speller -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 150

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Baker -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Duceppe -- Eggleton -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Graham -- Grose -- Hubbard -- Karetak-Lindell -- Loubier -- Marceau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Mitchell -- Perron -- Richardson -- Sauvageau -- Turp

Group No. 4

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 9 of Mr. Nystrom (Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), -- That Bill C-2 be amended by adding after line 29, on page 28, the following:

      ``53.1 Notwithstanding any provision in this Act or any other Act, a provincial government is entitled to borrow funds from the assets managed by the Board at the lowest rate of interest available to the federal government.''

The question was put on Motion No. 9 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 41)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Blaikie -- Davies -- Desjarlais -- Dockrill -- Earle -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Hardy -- Laliberte -- McDonough -- Nystrom -- Robinson -- Solomon -- Wasylycia-Leis -- 14

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alarie -- Alcock -- Anders -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Charest -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Crête -- Cullen -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Easter -- Elley -- Epp -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fournier -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Jones -- Jordan -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Konrad -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- Lebel -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Lowther -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Mark -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McNally -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Morrison -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Obhrai -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Pankiw -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Penson -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Power -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Ramsay -- Redman -- Reed -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Saada -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Solberg -- Speller -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- St-Julien -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Wayne -- Whelan -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- Wood -- 230

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Baker -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Duceppe -- Eggleton -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Graham -- Grose -- Hubbard -- Karetak-Lindell -- Loubier -- Marceau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Mitchell -- Perron -- Richardson -- Sauvageau -- Turp

Group No. 5

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 10 of Mrs. Ablonczy (Calgary -- Nose Hill), seconded by Mr. Epp (Elk Island), -- That Bill C-2 be amended by deleting Clause 58.

The question was put on Motion No. 10 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 73 , NAYS: 171 . (See list under Division No. 37)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 12 of Mr. Dubé (Madawaska -- Restigouche), seconded by Mr. Jones (Markham), -- That Bill C- 2, in Clause 59, be amended by adding after line 33 on page 30 the following:

      ``(3) Any increase in the contribution rate referred to in subsection (2) for the year 1997, 1998, 1999, or 2000 shall not come into effect unless the cumulative increase in anticipated revenues under the Canada Pension Plan resulting from the changes in the contribution rate after December 31, 1996 are offset by at least a cumulative decrease in anticipated combined employer and employee contributions under the Employment Insurance Act for the years 1998, 1999, and 2000.
      (4) The contribution rate for self-employed persons shall not exceed 10.25 per cent even if the Chief Actuary of the Office of the Superintendent of Financial Institutions, in preparing the report under section 115, is of the opinion that a higher contribution rate is warranted.''

The question was put on Motion No. 12 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 42)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Borotsik -- Brison -- Casey -- Charest -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Harvey -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Muise -- Power -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Wayne -- 16

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alarie -- Alcock -- Anders -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Crête -- Cullen -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dockrill -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Earle -- Easter -- Elley -- Epp -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fournier -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Hardy -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Konrad -- Kraft Sloan -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- Lebel -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Lowther -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Mark -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McNally -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Morrison -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Pankiw -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Penson -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Ramsay -- Redman -- Reed -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Saada -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Solberg -- Solomon -- Speller -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- St-Julien -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- Wood -- 228

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Baker -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Duceppe -- Eggleton -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Graham -- Grose -- Hubbard -- Karetak-Lindell -- Loubier -- Marceau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Mitchell -- Perron -- Richardson -- Sauvageau -- Turp

Group No. 6

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 11 of Mr. Nystrom (Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), -- That Bill C-2 be amended by deleting Clause 59.

The question was put on Motion No. 11 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 43)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bailey -- Benoit -- Blaikie -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Cadman -- Cummins -- Davies -- Desjarlais -- Dockrill -- Duncan -- Earle -- Elley -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gilmour -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Hanger -- Hardy -- Harris -- Hart -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Lowther -- Manning -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McDonough -- McNally -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Robinson -- Schmidt -- Solberg -- Solomon -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Wasylycia-Leis -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 57

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alarie -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brien -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Charest -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Crête -- Cullen -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Easter -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fournier -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jones -- Jordan -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- Lebel -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Power -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Speller -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Hilaire -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Wayne -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 187

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Baker -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Duceppe -- Eggleton -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Graham -- Grose -- Hubbard -- Karetak-Lindell -- Loubier -- Marceau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Mitchell -- Perron -- Richardson -- Sauvageau -- Turp

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 13 of Mr. Nystrom (Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 61, be amended by

    (a) replacing line 3 on page 31 with the following:
      ``20. The amount''
    (b) deleting lines 8 and 9 on page 31.

The question was put on Motion No. 13 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 44)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bailey -- Benoit -- Blaikie -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Cadman -- Cummins -- Davies -- Desjarlais -- Dockrill -- Duncan -- Earle -- Elley -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gilmour -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Hanger -- Hardy -- Harris -- Hart -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Lowther -- Manning -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Mayfield -- McDonough -- McNally -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Robinson -- Schmidt -- Solberg -- Solomon -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Wasylycia-Leis -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 58

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alarie -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brien -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Charest -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Crête -- Cullen -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Easter -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fournier -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jones -- Jordan -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- Lebel -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Power -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Speller -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Hilaire -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Wayne -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 187

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Baker -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Duceppe -- Eggleton -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Graham -- Grose -- Hubbard -- Karetak-Lindell -- Loubier -- Marceau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Mitchell -- Perron -- Richardson -- Sauvageau -- Turp

The House proceeded to the putting of the question of on Motion No. 14 of Mr. Dubé (Madawaska -- Restigouche), seconded by Mr. Jones (Markham), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 61, be amended by replacing lines 8 and 9 on page 31 with the following:

      ``(2) For each year beginning in 1997 and ending in 2006, the amount of a Year's Basic Exemption is $3,500.''

The question was put on Motion No. 14 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 45)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bailey -- Benoit -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brison -- Cadman -- Casey -- Charest -- Cummins -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duncan -- Elley -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gilmour -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Hanger -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvey -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Lowther -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Manning -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McNally -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Muise -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Power -- Ramsay -- Schmidt -- Solberg -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Wayne -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 59

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alarie -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bergeron -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brien -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Crête -- Cullen -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dockrill -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Earle -- Easter -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fournier -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goodale -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hardy -- Harvard -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- Lebel -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Nystrom -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Solomon -- Speller -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Hilaire -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 186

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Baker -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Duceppe -- Eggleton -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Graham -- Grose -- Hubbard -- Karetak-Lindell -- Loubier -- Marceau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Mitchell -- Perron -- Richardson -- Sauvageau -- Turp

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 15 of Mr. Nystrom (Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 67, be amended by adding after line 36 on page 36 the following:

      ``(4.2) Employer contributions for a self-employed person earning less than the prescribed threshold income shall, for the years 1999, 2000 and 2001, be calculated on a progressive scale based on annual income in accordance with the regulations.
      (4.3) Every regulation made pursuant to subsection (4.2) shall be laid before both Houses of Parliament within the first fifteen days of the next session after the date it is made, and the regulation shall remain in force until the day immediately succeeding the date of prorogation of that session of Parliament and no longer unless during the session it is approved by resolution of both Houses of Parliament.''

The question was put on Motion No. 15 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 46)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Brison -- Casey -- Charest -- Davies -- Desjarlais -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Earle -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Hardy -- Harvey -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Laliberte -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- McDonough -- Muise -- Nystrom -- Power -- Robinson -- Solomon -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- 31

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alarie -- Alcock -- Anders -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Crête -- Cullen -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Easter -- Elley -- Epp -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fournier -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Konrad -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- Lebel -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Lowther -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Mark -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McNally -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Morrison -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Obhrai -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Pankiw -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Penson -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Ramsay -- Redman -- Reed -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Saada -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Solberg -- Speller -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- St-Julien -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Whelan -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- Wood -- 214

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Baker -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Duceppe -- Eggleton -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Graham -- Grose -- Hubbard -- Karetak-Lindell -- Loubier -- Marceau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Mitchell -- Perron -- Richardson -- Sauvageau -- Turp

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 16 of Mr. Nystrom (Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), -- That Bill C-2 be amended by deleting Clause 68.

The question was put on Motion No. 16 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 14 , NAYS: 230. (See list under Division No. 41)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 17 of Mr. Nystrom (Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), -- That Bill C-2 be amended by deleting Clause 69.

The question was put on Motion No. 17 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 14 , NAYS: 230. (See list under Division No. 41)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 18 of Mr. Nystrom (Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 71, be amended by adding after line 23 on page 41 the following:

      ``(4) For the purposes of subsections (1) and (2), the Year's Maximum Pensionable Earnings for the years 1999, 2000, and 2001 shall be two times the amount calculated under this Act.''

The question was put on Motion No. 18 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 14 , NAYS: 230. (See list under Division No. 41)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 19 of Mr. Nystrom (Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), That Bill C-2 be amended by deleting Clause 76.

The question was put on Motion No. 19 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 14 , NAYS: 230. (See list under Division No. 41)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 22 of Mr. Nystrom (Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), That Bill C-2, in Clause 94, be amended by replacing lines 35 to 45 on page 73 with the following:

    ``year being generally constant.''

The question was put on Motion No. 22 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 14 , NAYS: 230. (See list under Division No. 41)

Group No. 7

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 20 of Mr. Nystrom (Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), -- That Bill C-2 be amended by deleting Clause 87.

The question was put on Motion No. 20 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 14 , NAYS: 230. (See list under Division No. 41)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 25 of Mr. Nystrom (Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), -- That Bill C-2 be amended by deleting Clause 107.

The question was put on Motion No. 25 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 14 , NAYS: 230. (See list under Division No. 41)

Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Public Works and Government Services), moved, -- That Bill C-2, An Act to establish the Canada Pension Plan Investment Board and to amend the Canada Pension Plan and the Old Age Security Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, as amended, be concurred in at report stage with further amendments.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 47)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alarie -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bergeron -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brien -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Crête -- Cullen -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Easter -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fournier -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harvard -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- Lebel -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Speller -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Hilaire -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 171

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bailey -- Benoit -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brison -- Cadman -- Casey -- Charest -- Cummins -- Davies -- Desjarlais -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duncan -- Earle -- Elley -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gilmour -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Hanger -- Hardy -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvey -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Lowther -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Manning -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Mayfield -- McDonough -- McNally -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Muise -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Power -- Ramsay -- Riis -- Robinson -- Schmidt -- Solberg -- Solomon -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 75

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Baker -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Duceppe -- Eggleton -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Graham -- Grose -- Hubbard -- Karetak-Lindell -- Loubier -- Marceau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Mitchell -- Perron -- Richardson -- Sauvageau -- Turp

Accordingly, the Bill, as amended, was concurred in at report stage with further amendments and ordered for a third reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Pettigrew (Minister of Human Resources Development), -- That Bill C-10, An Act to implement a convention between Canada and Sweden, a convention between Canada and the Republic of Lithuania, a convention between Canada and the Republic of Kazakhstan, a convention between Canada and the Republic of Iceland and a convention between Canada and the Kingdom of Denmark for the avoidance of double taxation and the prevention of fiscal evasion with respect to taxes on income and to amend the Canada-Netherlands Income Tax Convention Act, 1986 and the Canada-United States Tax Convention Act, 1984, be now read a third time and do pass.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

YEAS: 171 , NAYS: 75. (See list under Division No. 47)

Accordingly, the Bill was read a third time and passed.


Mr. Boudria (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Public Works and Government Services), moved, -- That this House do now adjourn.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:

-- by the Speaker -- Amendments to the By-laws adopted by the Board of Internal Economy on November 25, 1997. -- Sessional Paper No. 8527-361-10.

-- by Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance) -- Copy of Order in Council P. C. 1997-1710 dated November 20, 1997, together with the supplementary convention intended to amend the Convention between Canada and Switzerland for the avoidance of double taxation with respect to taxes on income and on capital, signed at Berne on May 5, 1997, pursuant to An Act to implement conventions between Canada and Morocco, Canada and Pakistan, Canada and Singapore, Canada and the Philippines, Canada and the Dominican Republic and Canada and Switzerland for the avoidance of double taxation with respect to income tax, S.C. 1976-77, c. 29, sbs. 19(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8532-361-7. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Finance)

-- by Mr. Vanclief (Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food) -- Report of Canadian Dairy Commission, together with the Auditor General's report, for the year ended July 31, 1997, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S. 1985, c. P-11, sbs. 150(1), -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-90. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food)

PETITIONS FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were filed as follows:

-- by Mrs. Chamberlain (Guelph -- Wellington), six concerning the Canadian flag (Nos. 361-0254 to 361-0259).

ADJOURNMENT

At 6:09 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).