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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
36th PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 108

Monday, May 25, 1998

11:00 a.m.



PRAYERS

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 11:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(6), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca), seconded by Mr. Lunn (Saanich -- Gulf Islands), -- That, in the opinion of this House, the government should: (a) develop, along with their provincial counterparts, a comprehensive National Head Start Program for children in their first 8 years of life; (b) ensure that this integrated program involves both hospitals and schools, and is modelled on the experiences of the Moncton Head Start Program, Hawaii Head Start Program, and PERRY Pre-School Program; and (c) ensure that the program is implemented by the year 2000. (Private Members' Business M-261)

The debate continued.

MOTIONS

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, -- That, at the conclusion of today's debate on Motion M-261, all questions necessary to dispose of the said motion shall be deemed put, and a recorded division deemed requested and deferred until the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders today.

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca), seconded by Mr. Lunn (Saanich -- Gulf Islands). (Private Members' Business M-261)

The debate continued.

Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Eastern Shore), seconded by Mr. Godin (Acadie -- Bathurst), moved the following amendment, -- That the motion be amended by adding after the word ``counterparts'' the following:

    ``and leaders of aboriginal communities''

Debate arose thereon.

The question was deemed put on the amendment and, pursuant to Order made earlier today, the recorded division was deemed requested and deferred until the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

Notice having been given at a previous sitting under the provisions of Standing Order 78(3), Mr. Boudria (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Chan (Secretary of State (Asia-Pacific)), moved, -- That, in relation to Bill C-36, An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on February 24, 1998, not more than one further sitting day shall be allotted to the consideration of the report stage of the Bill and one sitting day shall be allotted to the third reading stage of the said Bill;

That, fifteen minutes before the expiry of the time ordinarily provided for government business on the day allotted to the consideration of the report stage and on the day allotted to the third reading stage of the said Bill, any proceedings before the House shall be interrupted, if required for the purpose of this Order, and in turn every question necessary for the disposal of the stage of the Bill then under consideration shall be put forthwith and successively without further debate or amendment.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 158)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Clouthier -- Cohen -- Copps -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Keyes -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Patry -- Peric -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Wappel -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- 131

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bigras -- Borotsik -- Brien -- Brison -- Cadman -- Casson -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- Dockrill -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Earle -- Epp -- Forseth -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guay -- Hardy -- Hart -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Jones -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lefebvre -- Loubier -- Lunn -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mancini -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Mark -- Mayfield -- McDonough -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Morrison -- Muise -- Nunziata -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Ramsay -- Riis -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Solberg -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Venne -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- 89

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bennett -- Collenette -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Finestone -- Gallaway -- Guimond -- Lebel -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- Perron -- Proud

The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill C-36, An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on February 24, 1998, as reported by the Standing Committee on Finance without amendment;

And of the motions in Group No. 1 (Motion Nos. 1 to 40 and 42 to 67).

Group No. 1

Motion No. 1 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 2.

Motion No. 2 of Mr. Brison (Kings -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 2, be amended by replacing lines 16 to 24 on page 1 with the following:

    ````eligible institution'' means
    (a) a public post-secondary educational institution in Canada that grants degrees, certificates or diplomas; or
    (b) a private post-secondary educational institution in Canada that grants degrees, certificates or diplomas in respect of a program of studies that has been designated by a law of the province in which the institution is located, as a program whose students are eligible to receive a scholarship granted by the government of that province.''

Motion No. 3 of Mr. Solberg (Medicine Hat), seconded by Mr. Abbott (Kootenay -- Columbia), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 2, be amended

    (a) by replacing line 19 on page 1 with the following:
      ``certificates or diplomas and that is a specified educational institution within the meaning of section 2 of the Canada Student Loans Act,''
    (b) by replacing lines 22 to 24 on page 1 with the following:
      ``certificates or diplomas and that is a specified educational institution within the meaning of section 2 of the Canada Student Loans Act,''

Motion No. 4 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 3.

Motion No. 5 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 4.

Motion No. 6 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 5.

Motion No. 7 of Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Eastern Shore), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 5, be amended by replacing line 10 on page 3 with the following:

``across Canada and allocate those scholarships to reflect the relative population size of each province.''

Motion No. 8 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 6.

Motion No. 9 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 7.

Motion No. 10 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 8.

Motion No. 11 of Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Eastern Shore), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 8, be amended by replacing lines 6 and 7 on page 5 with the following:

    ``(b) six persons, one of whom shall be a student attending a college and one of whom shall be a student attending a university,''

Motion No. 12 of Mr. Brison (Kings -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 8, be amended by replacing line 7 on page 5 with the following:

    ``student attending an eligible institution full-time,''

Motion No. 13 of Mr. Brison (Kings -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 8, be amended by adding after line 17 on page 5 the following:

      ``(2.1) the Board shall consist of at least one person representing public post-secondary educational institutions and at least one person representing private post-secondary educational institutions.''

Motion No. 14 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 9.

Motion No. 15 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 10.

Motion No. 16 of Mr. Brison (Kings -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 10, be amended by replacing lines 36 to 39 on page 7 with the following:

    ``(a) the Board is knowledgeable about post-secondary education and learning in Canada, the needs of the Canadian economy and the management of investments; and''

Motion No. 17 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 11.

Motion No. 18 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 12.

Motion No. 19 of Mr. Brison (Kings -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 12, be amended by adding after line 32 on page 8 the following:

      ``(4.1) the Foundation shall have at least one member representing public post-secondary educational institutions and at least one member representing private post-secondary educational institutions.''

Motion No. 20 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 13.

Motion No. 21 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 14.

Motion No. 22 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 15.

Motion No. 23 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 16.

Motion No. 24 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 17.

Motion No. 25 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 18.

Motion No. 26 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 19.

Motion No. 27 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 20.

Motion No. 28 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 21.

Motion No. 29 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 22.

Motion No. 30 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 23.

Motion No. 31 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 24.

Motion No. 32 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 25.

Motion No. 33 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 26.

Motion No. 34 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 27.

Motion No. 35 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 28.

Motion No. 36 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 29.

Motion No. 37 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 30.

Motion No. 38 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 31.

Motion No. 39 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 32.

Motion No. 40 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 33.

Motion No. 42 of Mr. Solberg (Medicine Hat), seconded by Mr. Abbott (Kootenay -- Columbia), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 34, be amended by replacing line 16 on page 16 with the following:

    ``appropriate but no scholarship may be granted unless a person who meets the requirements mentioned in paragraphs 27(1)(a) to (d), or a person described in subsection 27(2), makes an application to the Foundation for a scholarship.
      34.1 (1) Where the Foundation does not grant a scholarship to an applicant referred to in section 34 who meets the requirements mentioned in paragraphs 27(1)(a) to (d) or who is a person described in subsection 27(2), the applicant may appeal the Foundation's decision in accordance with the appeal process established by regulations made under subsection (2).
      (2) the Minister of Finance shall, not later than 90 days after the coming into force of this section, make regulations establishing an appeal process for the purposes fo subsection (1). the regulations shall come into force on or before the expiry of those 90 days.''

Motion No. 43 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 35.

Motion No. 44 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 36.

Motion No. 45 of Mr. Brison (Kings -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 36, be amended

    (a) by replacing line 11 on page 17 with the following:
      ``year and next year;''
    (b) by adding after line 13 on page 17 the following:
      ``(e) the names of the five highest paid employees and officers of the Foundation appointed under section 16 and the salary paid by the Foundation to each of these persons;
      (f) a summary of all individuals, and businesses that benefitted from contracts for professional services with the Foundation totalling more than $100,000;
      (g) any written statement referred to in subsection 168(7) of the Canada Business Corporations Act that has been requested and received by a person described in that subsection, from an auditor described in that subsection;
      (h) an executive summary of the findings of any internal audit that has been carried out at the request of the Board; and
      (i) such other information as may, by regulation, be prescribed by the Minister of Finance.''

Motion No. 46 of Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Eastern Shore), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 36, be amended

    (a) by replacing line 11 on page 17 with the following:
      ``year and the next year;
    (b) by replacing line 13 on page 17 with the following:
      ``the granting of scholarships during the year; and
      (e) the number of students that were granted scholarships in the year, the name and location by province, of the eligible institutions in which each of those students were enrolled and the program of studies they were pursuing.''

Motion No. 47 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 37.

Motion No. 48 of Mr. Brison (Kings -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 37, be amended by replacing lines 14 to 17 on page 17 with the following:

      ``37. Every five years after the coming into force of this Act, the Foundation shall cause a review and report to be made by a person who is independent of the Foundation of its activities and organization.''

Motion No. 49 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 38.

Motion No. 50 of Mr. Brison (Kings -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 38, be amended by replacing lines 18 to 25 on page 17 with the following:

      ``38. Not later than six months after the end of each fiscal year, in the case of a report referred to in section 36, and not later than six months after the report referred to in section 37 has been made, the reports shall be made public and a copy of them shall be sent to the Ministers and to the provincial ministers. the Minister of Human''

Motion No. 51 of Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Eastern Shore), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 38, be amended by adding after line 30 on page 17 the following:

      ``(3) A report under section 36 that is laid before each House of Parliament under subsection (2) stands permanently referred to such committee of the House of Commons as is established or designated to review matters related to human resources and education.
      (4) A report under section 37 that is laid before each House of Parliament under subsection (2) shall be referred to such committee of the House of Commons as is established or designated to review matters related to human resources and education.''

Motion No. 52 of Mr. Brison (Kings -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 38, be amended by adding after line 30 on page 17 the following:

      ``(3) the reports said before each House of Parliament under subsection (2) stand permanently referred to the standing committee of the House of Commons that normally considers matters relating to human resources development and the standing committee of the Senate that normally considers social affairs.''

Motion No. 53 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 39.

Motion No. 54 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 40.

Motion No. 55 of Mr. Brison (Kings -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 40, be amended by replacing lines 1 to 5 on page 18 with the following:

      ``40. (1) On the recommendation of the Minister of Finance, the Governor in Council shall appoint an auditor for the Foundation for the fiscal year, and the members shall fix, or authorize the Board to fix, the auditor's remuneration.''

Motion No. 56 of Mr. Brison (Kings -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 40, be amended by adding after line 24 on page 18 the following:

    ``(c) the Auditor General of Canada.''

Motion No. 57 of Mr. Brison (Kings -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 40, be amended by replacing lines 29 to 31 on page 18 with the following:

    ``(4) On the recommendation of the Minister of Finance, the Governor in Council may remove an auditor from office.''

Motion No. 58 of Mr. Brison (Kings -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 40, be amended by replacing lines 38 to 44 on page 18 with the following:

      ``(6) On the recommendation of the Minister of Finance, the Governor in Council shall appoint an auditor to fill any vacancy in the office of the auditor.''

Motion No. 59 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 41.

Motion No. 60 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 42.

Motion No. 61 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 43.

Motion No. 62 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 44.

Motion No. 63 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 45.

Motion No. 64 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 46.

Motion No. 65 of Mr. Brison (Kings -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 46, be amended by replacing lines 6 to 10 on page 20 with the following:

      ``46. (1) Subject to subsection (2), from and out of the Consolidated Revenue Fund there may, on the requisition of the Minister of Finance, be paid and applied for payment to the Foundation the sum of two billion five hundred million dollars.
      (2) the sum referred to in subsection (1) shall not be paid to the Foundation in respect of a fiscal year that ended before the date of the coming into force of this Part.''

Motion No. 66 of Mr. Brison (Kings -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by adding after line 10 on page 20 the following new clause:

    ``46.1 the Access to Information Act applies to the Foundation as if it were a federal institution.''

Motion No. 67 of Mr. Solberg (Medicine Hat), seconded by Mr. Abbott (Kootenay -- Columbia), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by adding after line 10 on page 20 the following new clause:

    ``46.1(1) Where the Foundation enters into an agreement with the provincial minister of a province whereby
      (a) the Foundation shall not carry out its objects and purposes in the province;
      (b) the Foundation promises to pay to the government of the province the amount that the Foundation would otherwise have spent in the province in carrying out its objects and purposes; and
      (c) the provincial minister promises to use the amount referred to in paragraph (b) to address the particular needs of the province in terms of post-secondary education
      the Foundation shall cease to carry out its objects and purposes in the province.

(2) Within ten days after the signing of an agreement referred to in subsection (1), the Foundation shall pay to the government of the province the amount specified in the agreement.''

The debate continued on the motions in Group No. 1.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Adams (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Orders in Council approving certain appointments made by the Governor General in Council, pursuant to Standing Order 110(1), as follows:

-- P.C. 1998-822, P.C. 1998-823, P.C. 1998-824, P.C. 1998-825 and P.C. 1998-826. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-361-14P. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration)

-- P.C. 1998-804 and P.C. 1998-872. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-361-8L. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade)

-- P.C. 1998-827. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-361-18I. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Health)

-- P.C. 1998-812, P.C. 1998-813, P.C. 1998-814, P.C. 1998-815, P.C. 1998-816, P.C. 1998-817 and P.C. 1998-818. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-361-16M. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities)

-- P.C. 1998-828. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-361-13M. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

-- P.C. 1998-809, P.C. 1998-810, P.C. 1998-811, P.C. 1998-874 and P.C. 1998-875. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-361-6K. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Natural Resources and Government Operations)

-- P.C. 1998-805. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-361-5F. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs)

-- P.C. 1998-802, P.C. 1998-803, P.C. 1998-806, P.C. 1998-807 and P.C. 1998-808. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-361-24Q. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Transport)


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Adams (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

-- Nos. 361-0113, 361-0121, 361-0134, 361-0157, 361-0168, 361-0179, 361-0196 and 361-0354 concerning alcoholic beverages. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-62;

-- No. 361-0159 concerning the Criminal Code of Canada. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-63;

-- No. 361-0367 concerning the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-64.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Caccia (Davenport), from the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development, presented the 3rd Report of the Committee (Enforcing Canada's Pollution Laws: the Public Interest Must Come First). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-361-74.

Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the government was requested by the Committee to table a comprehensive response.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meeting No. 52) was tabled.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Nystrom (Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Riis (Kamloops), Bill C-407, An Act to amend the Bank Act (bank mergers), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Dromisky (Thunder Bay -- Atikokan), seconded by Mr. Finlay (Oxford), Bill C-408, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (wearing of war decorations), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Jackson (Bruce -- Grey), one concerning sexual orientation (No. 361-0954);

-- by Mr. Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca), one concerning sexual orientation (No. 361-0955) and one concerning the Young Offenders Act (No. 361-0956);

-- by Mr. Peric (Cambridge), one concerning health care services (No. 361-0957);

-- by Mr. MacKay (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough), one concerning the fishing industry (No. 361-0958);

-- by Mrs. Redman (Kitchener Centre), one concerning Albania (No. 361-0959);

-- by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), one concerning police and firefighters' death benefits (No. 361-0960) and one concerning the income tax system (No. 361-0961);

-- by Mr. Steckle (Huron -- Bruce), one concerning gasoline pricing (No. 361-0962);

-- by Mrs. Ur (Lambton -- Kent -- Middlesex), one concerning sexual orientation (No. 361-0963);

-- by Mr. Riis (Kamloops), one concerning the tax system (No. 361-0964), one concerning the Canada Pension Plan (No. 361-0965) and one concerning international trade (No. 361-0966);

-- by Mr. Adams (Peterborough), one concerning international trade (No. 361-0967).

Questions on Order Paper

Mr. Adams (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the answers to questions Q-38, Q-67 and Q-93 on the Order Paper.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill C-36, An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on February 24, 1998, as reported by Standing Committee on Finance without amendment;

And of the motions in Group No. 1 (Motion Nos. 1 to 40 and 42 to 67).

The debate continued on the motions in Group No. 1.

At 6:15 p.m., pursuant to Order made earlier today under the provisions of Standing Order 78(3), the Speaker interrupted the proceedings.

The question was put on Motion No. 1 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motions Nos. 4 to 6, 8 to 10, 14, 15, 17, 18, 20 to 41, 43, 44, 47, 49 53, 54 and 59 to 64, was deferred.

Group No. 2

Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Eastern Shore), moved Motion No. 68, -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 58, be amended by replacing lines 25 and 26 on page 24 with the following:

    ``(b) raw leaf tobacco intended for retail sale and leaves and stems of the tobacco plant if these leaves and stems have been processed further''

Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Eastern Shore), moved Motion No. 69, -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 59, be amended by adding after line 17 on page 26 the following:

      ``(9) Notwithstanding subsection (8), the council shall provide the Minister with copy of every by-law that is made under this Division, including a by-law that amends a by-law.
      (10) the Minister shall maintain a list of every by-law provided to the Minister under subsection (9).''

Mr. Solberg (Medicine Hat), seconded by Mr. Abbott (Kootenay -- Columbia), moved Motion No. 70, -- That Bill C-36 be amended by adding after line 17 on page 26 the following new Clause:

      ``59.1 (1) Where the council has made a by-law imposing a tax under this Division, the council shall maintain books of account and other records in respect of all such taxes that have been collected and expended and the nature of those expenditures.
      (2) the council shall, within six months after the end of each fiscal year, prepare an annual report in respect of the taxes referred to in subsection (1) that were collected and expended in that year which shall include
      (a) the total amount of taxes collected in that year;
      (b) the total amount of taxes expended in that year;
      (c) a detailed account of the nature of the expenditures; and
      (d) any other information the Minister prescribes by regulation.
      (3) the report referred to in subsection (2) shall be made public and a copy sent to the Minister of Finance.
      59.2 (1) A person authorized under subsection (2) shall, as soon as possible after the end of the fiscal year carry out an audit of the books of account and records required to be kept by the council under subsection 59.1(1).
      (2) the Minister shall authorize a person in the Minister's department to carry out an audit under subsection (1).''

Mr. Solberg (Medicine Hat), seconded by Mr. Abbott (Kootenay -- Columbia), moved Motion No. 71, -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 60, be amended by replacing lines 18 to 25 on page 26 with the following:

      ``60. Where the council has made a by-law imposing a tax under this Division,''

Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Eastern Shore), moved Motion No. 72, -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 62, be amended by replacing line 11 on page 28 with the following:

    ``a fine of not more than $50,000 or to''

Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Eastern Shore), moved Motion No. 73, -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 64, be amended by adding after line 32 on page 28 the following:

      ``(5) Notwithstanding subsection (4), the council shall provide the Minister with a copy of every by-law that is made under this Part, including a by-law that amends a by-law.
      (6) the Minister shall maintain a list of every by-law provided to the Minister under subsection (5).''

Mr. Solberg (Medicine Hat), seconded by Mr. Abbott (Kootenay -- Columbia), moved Motion No. 74, -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 67, be amended by adding after line 29 on page 29 the following:

      ``45.1 (1) Where the council has made a by-law imposing a tax under this Part, the council shall maintain books of account and other records in respect of all such taxes that have been collected and expended and the nature of those expenditures.
      (2) the council shall, within six months after the end of each fiscal year, prepare an annual report in respect of the taxes referred to in subsection (1) that were collected and expended in that year which shall include
      (a) the total amount of taxes collected in that year;
      (b) the total amount of taxes expended in that year;
      (c) a detailed account of the nature of the expenditures; and
      (d) any other information the Minister prescribes by regulation.
      (3) the report referred to in subsection (2) shall be made public and a copy sent to the Minister of Finance.
      45.2 (1) A person authorized under subsection (2) shall, as soon as possible after the end of the fiscal year carry out an audit of the books of account and records required to be kept by the council under subsection 45.1(1).
      (2) the Minister shall authorize a person in the Minister department to carry out an audit under subsection (1).''

Mr. Solberg (Medicine Hat), seconded by Mr. Abbott (Kootenay -- Columbia), moved Motion No. 75, -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 71, be amended by adding after line 25 on page 31 the following:

      ``53.1 (1) Where the council has made a by-law imposing a tax under this Part, the council shall maintain books of account and other records in respect of all such taxes that have been collected and expended and the nature of those expenditures.
      (2) the council shall, within six months after the end of each fiscal year, prepare an annual report in respect of the taxes referred to in subsection (1) that were collected and expended in that year which shall include
      (a) the total amount of taxes collected in that year;
      (b) the total amount of taxes expended in that year;
      (c) a detailed account of the nature of the expenditures; and
      (d) any other information the Minister prescribes by regulation.
      (3) the report referred to in subsection (2) shall be made public and a copy sent to the Minister of Finance.
      53.2 (1) A person authorized under subsection (2) shall, as soon as possible after the end of the fiscal year carry out an audit of the books of account and records required to be kept by the council under subsection 53.1(1).
      (2) the Minister shall authorize a person in the Minister department to carry out an audit under subsection (1).''

Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Eastern Shore), moved Motion No. 76, -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 71, be amended by adding after line 25 on page 31 the following:

      ``(4) Notwithstanding subsection (3), the council shall provide the Minister with a copy of every by-law that is made under this Part, including a by-law that amends a by-law.
      (5) the Minister shall maintain a list of every by-law provided to the Minister under subsection (4).''

The question was put on Motions Nos. 68, 71 and 72, and pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded divisions were deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 69, and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motions Nos. 73 and 76, was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 70 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motions Nos. 74 and 75, was deferred.

Group No. 4

Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Eastern Shore), moved Motion No. 78, -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 81, be amended, in the English version only, by replacing line 6 on page 38 with the following:

    ``Prince Edward Island who purchases the cigarettes or tobacco sticks for consumption by the''

Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Eastern Shore), moved Motion No. 79, -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 81, be amended, in the English version only, by replacing line 19 on page 38 with the following:

    ``Province of Prince Edward Island who purchases the cigarettes or tobacco sticks for con-''

Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Eastern Shore), moved Motion No. 80, -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 82, be amended by replacing line 11 on page 39 with the following:

    ``package where the cigarettes are marked and''

Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Eastern Shore), moved Motion No. 81, -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 82, be amended by replacing line 26 on page 39 with the following:

    ``package where the cigarettes are marked and''

The question was put on Motion No. 78 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division, which also applies to motions No. 79, was deferred.

The question was put on Motions Nos. 80 and 81, and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded divisions were deferred.

Group No. 5

Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), moved Motion No. 82, -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 91.

Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), moved Motion No. 83, -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 91, be amended by replacing line 3 on page 44 with the following:

The question was put on Motion No. 82 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

Group No. 6

Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), moved Motion No. 84, -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 100.

Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Eastern Shore), moved Motion No. 85, -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 100, be amended by replacing lines 16 to 23 on page 49 with the following:

      ``100. Paragraph 15(l) of the Act is replaced''

Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), moved Motion No. 86, -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 100, be amended by replacing lines 19 and 20 on page 49 with the following:

    ``which an interest-''

Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), moved Motion No. 87, -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 103.

The question was put on Motions Nos. 84 and 87 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded divisions were deferred.

Group No. 7

Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), moved Motion No. 88, -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 104, be amended

    (a) by replacing lines 4 to 11 on page 51 with the following:
        ``(8.2) With respect to 1999, the Minister shall refund, in the prescribed manner, to designated persons the prescribed portion of the amount determined by the following formula if that amount is more than $1:

(E2-E1) x P1999

    Where
      E1 is the total of all insurable earnings paid in 1998 by the employer, for which premiums were deductible, in respect of employees who were 18 years of age or older but younger than 25 at any time during 1998;
      E2 is the total of all insurable earnings paid in 1999 by the employer, for which premiums were deductible, in respect of employees who were 18 years of age or older but younger than 25 at any time during 1999; and
      P1999 is 1.4 times the premium rate for 1999.
      (8.21) For the purposes of subsection (8.2), designated persons means persons who have paid the employee's premium or the employer's premium in 1999.''
    (b) by replacing lines 3 to 40 on page 52 with the following:
        ``(9) If at any time during a year for which a refund is sought two or more employers are associated, as defined by the regulations, they shall be considered a single employer for the purposes of subsections (6) to (8.3) and any refund shall be allocated to them in the prescribed manner.''

Mr. Brison (Kings -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), moved Motion No. 89, -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 104, be amended by replacing lines 4 to 23 on page 51 and lines 1 to 40 on page 52 with the following:

      ``(8.2) With respect to 1999 and 2000, the Minister shall refund to the employer the amount by which the total of all amounts paid by the employer as the employer's premium during each of these years exceeds 2.8% of the total insurable earnings paid by the employer to his employees for each of these years.
      (8.3) With respect to 1999 and 2000, the Minister shall refund to each employee the amount by which the total of all amounts paid by the employee as the employee's premium for each of these years exceeds 2% of the total of all insurable earnings received by the employee for each of these years.
      (8.4) the refunds provided for in this section are payable by the Minister within three months after the end of the year for which the premiums were deducted or payable.''

Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), moved Motion No. 90, -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 104, be amended by replacing lines 12 to 23 on page 51 and lines 1 to 40 on page 52 with the following:

      ``(8.3) With respect to 2000, the Minister shall, in the prescribed manner, refund to designated persons the prescribed portion of the amount determined by the following formula if that amount is more than $1:

(E2-E1) x P2000

    where
      E1 is the total of all insurable earnings paid in 1998 by the employer, for which premiums were deductible, in respect of employees who were 18 years of age or older but younger than 25 at any time during 1998;
      E2 is the total of all insurable earnings paid in 2000 by the employer, for which premiums were deductible, in respect of employees who were 18 years of age or older but younger than 25 at any time during 2000; and
      P2000 is 1.4 times the premium rate for 2000.
      (8.31) For the purposes of subsection (8.3), designated persons means persons who have paid the employee's premium or the employer's premium in 2000.
      (9) If at any time during a year for which a refund is sought two or more employers are associated, as defined by the regulations, they shall be considered a single employer for the purposes of subsections (6) to (8.3) and any refund shall be allocated to them in the prescribed manner.''

Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Eastern Shore), moved Motion No. 91, -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 104, be amended by replacing lines 10 to 13 on page 52 with the following:

    ``payable to the employer, the employer shall pay to the Minister by way of penalty, an amount equal to twice the amount of the refund that was applied for or received, as the case may be, by the employer.

(8.41) An amount required to be paid by way of penalty by an employer under subsection (8.4) and any interest thereon constitutes a debt to Her Majesty in right of Canada and may be recovered as such in any count of competent jurisdiction.''

Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Eastern Shore), moved Motion No. 92, -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 104, be amended by deleting lines 14 to 20 on page 52.

Mr. Solberg (Medicine Hat), seconded by Mr. Abbott (Kootenay -- Columbia), moved Motion No. 93, -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 104, be amended by adding after line 40 on page 52 the following:

      ``(11) Notwithstanding any other provision in this Act, where the total amount of monies expended in a year to pay benefits is less than fifty per cent of the total amount of monies paid in that year by any of premiums, the Minister shall, in the next year, reduce the premium rate by the amount of unexpended monies that exceeds the amount of those monies that is equal to the amount of monies expended to pay those benefits. the Minister shall, by regulation, carry out such calculations as the Minister deems necessary to effect the reduction.''

The question was put on Motions Nos. 88 and 93 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded divisions were deferred.

Group No. 8

Mr. Brison (Kings -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), moved Motion No. 94, -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 105, be amended by deleting lines 4 to 26 on page 53.

Mr. Brison (Kings -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), moved Motion No. 95, -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 108, be amended by deleting lines 5 to 13 on page 56.

Mr. Brison (Kings -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), moved Motion No. 96, -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 109, be amended by deleting lines 36 to 45 on page 56.

The question was put on Motion Nos. 94 to 96 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded divisions were deferred.

Group No. 9

Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Eastern Shore), moved Motion No. 97, -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 125.

Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Eastern Shore), moved Motion No. 98, -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 126.

Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Eastern Shore), moved Motion No. 99, -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 127.

Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Eastern Shore), moved Motion No. 100, -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 128.

Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Eastern Shore), moved Motion No. 101, -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 129.

Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Eastern Shore), moved Motion No. 102, -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 130.

Mr. Bachand (Richmond -- Arthabaska), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), moved Motion No. 103, -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 130, be amended by replacing line 17 on page 78 with the following:

    ``(a.1) the foreign state has either human rights record that is acceptable to the Canadian government or if it does not have such a record, is making substantial progress towards improving its human rights record so that it will be acceptable to the Canadian government;
    (a.2) the foreign state has ratified or signed the Convention on the prohibition of the use, stockpiling, production and transfer of anti-personnel mines and their destruction; and''

Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Eastern Shore), moved Motion No. 104, -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 131.

Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Eastern Shore), moved Motion No. 105, -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 132.

Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Eastern Shore), moved Motion No. 106, -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 133.

Mr. Solberg (Medicine Hat), seconded by Mr. Abbott (Kootenay -- Columbia), moved Motion No. 107, -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 133, be amended by replacing line 9 on page 80 with the following:

      ``133. (1) Sections 2 to 46 shall not come into force unless, on a day following the day this Act receives royal assent, the amount referred to in section 46 is, in accordance with objective accounting standards recommended by the Canadian Institute of Chartered Accountants, credited to the Consolidated Revenue Fund as a liability for the fiscal year 1998-99, in which case those sections shall come into force on the day that amount is so credited.
      (2) Sections 127 to 132 come into force''

The question was put on Motion No. 97 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division, which also applies to motions Nos. 98 to 102 and 104 to 106, was deferred.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions at report stage of Bill C-36, An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on February 24, 1998, as reported by the Standing Committee on Finance, without amendment.

Group No. 1

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 1 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 2.

The question was put on Motion No. 1 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 159)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bigras -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Cadman -- Canuel -- Casson -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Cummins -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- Dockrill -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Earle -- Epp -- Forseth -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guay -- Hardy -- Harris -- Hart -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lefebvre -- Lill -- Loubier -- Lunn -- Mancini -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Mayfield -- McDonough -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Nunziata -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Proctor -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Riis -- Ritz -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Solomon -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Vautour -- Vellacott -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 102

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Keyes -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Matthews -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Wappel -- Wayne -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- 154

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bennett -- Collenette -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Finestone -- Gallaway -- Guimond -- Lebel -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- Perron -- Proud

Accordingly, Motions Nos. 4 to 6, 8 to 10, 14, 15, 17, 18, 20 to 41, 43, 44, 47, 49, 53, 54 and 59 to 64 were also negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 2 of Mr. Brison (Kings -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 2, be amended by replacing lines 16 to 24 on page 1 with the following:

    ````eligible institution'' means
    (a) a public post-secondary educational institution in Canada that grants degrees, certificates or diplomas; or
    (b) a private post-secondary educational institution in Canada that grants degrees, certificates or diplomas in respect of a program of studies that has been designated by a law of the province in which the institution is located, as a program whose students are eligible to receive a scholarship granted by the government of that province.''

The question was put on Motion No. 2 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 160)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bailey -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brison -- Cadman -- Casson -- Chatters -- Cummins -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gilmour -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Lunn -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Muise -- Nunziata -- Obhrai -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Ritz -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Vellacott -- Wayne -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 60

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brien -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Crête -- Cullen -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dockrill -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Earle -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fournier -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Harb -- Hardy -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Lill -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Mancini -- Manley -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Nystrom -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pratt -- Proctor -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Riis -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Saada -- Sauvageau -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Solomon -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Hilaire -- St-Julien -- Stoffer -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vautour -- Venne -- Wappel -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- 197

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bennett -- Collenette -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Finestone -- Gallaway -- Guimond -- Lebel -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- Perron -- Proud

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 3 of Mr. Solberg (Medicine Hat), seconded by Mr. Abbott (Kootenay -- Columbia), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 2, be amended

    (a) by replacing line 19 on page 1 with the following:
      ``certificates or diplomas and that is a specified educational institution within the meaning of section 2 of the Canada Student Loans Act,''
    (b) by replacing lines 22 to 24 on page 1 with the following:
      ``certificates or diplomas and that is a specified educational institution within the meaning of section 2 of the Canada Student Loans Act,''

The question was put on Motion No. 3 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 161)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bailey -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brison -- Cadman -- Casson -- Chatters -- Cummins -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gilmour -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Lunn -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Muise -- Nunziata -- Obhrai -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Ritz -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Vellacott -- Wayne -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 59

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brien -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Crête -- Cullen -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dockrill -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Earle -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fournier -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Harb -- Hardy -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Lill -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Mancini -- Manley -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Nystrom -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pratt -- Proctor -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Riis -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Saada -- Sauvageau -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Solomon -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Hilaire -- St-Julien -- Stoffer -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vautour -- Venne -- Wappel -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- 198

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bennett -- Collenette -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Finestone -- Gallaway -- Guimond -- Lebel -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- Perron -- Proud

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 7 of Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Eastern Shore), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 5, be amended by replacing line 10 on page 3 with the following:

    ``across Canada and allocate those scholarships to reflect the relative population size of each province.''

The question was put on Motion No. 7 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 162)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bailey -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Cadman -- Casson -- Chatters -- Cummins -- Davies -- Desjarlais -- Dockrill -- Duncan -- Earle -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gilmour -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Hardy -- Harris -- Hart -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Lill -- Lunn -- Mancini -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Mayfield -- McDonough -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Nunziata -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Proctor -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Riis -- Ritz -- Robinson -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Solomon -- Stinson -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Vautour -- Vellacott -- Wasylycia-Leis -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 66

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brien -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Crête -- Cullen -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fournier -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Harb -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Keyes -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Matthews -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pratt -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Saada -- Sauvageau -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Hilaire -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Wappel -- Wayne -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- 191

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bennett -- Collenette -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Finestone -- Gallaway -- Guimond -- Lebel -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- Perron -- Proud

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 11 of Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Eastern Shore), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 8, be amended by replacing lines 6 and 7 on page 5 with the following:

    ``(b) six persons, one of whom shall be a student attending a college and one of whom shall be a student attending a university,''

The question was put on Motion No. 11 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 163)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Borotsik -- Brison -- Davies -- Desjarlais -- Dockrill -- Earle -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Hardy -- Harvey -- Herron -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Laliberte -- Lill -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mancini -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- McDonough -- Muise -- Nunziata -- Nystrom -- Proctor -- Riis -- Robinson -- Solomon -- Stoffer -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Vautour -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- 34

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Anders -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casson -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Crête -- Cullen -- Cummins -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Epp -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fournier -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Harb -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Konrad -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Loubier -- Lunn -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Mark -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Obhrai -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pratt -- Provenzano -- Ramsay -- Redman -- Reed -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Saada -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Solberg -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- St-Julien -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vellacott -- Venne -- Wappel -- Whelan -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- 223

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bennett -- Collenette -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Finestone -- Gallaway -- Guimond -- Lebel -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- Perron -- Proud

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 12 of Mr. Brison (Kings -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 8, be amended by replacing line 7 on page 5 with the following:

    ``student attending an eligible institution full-time,''

The question was put on Motion No. 12 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 59, NAYS: 198. (See list under Division No. 161)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 13 of Mr. Brison (Kings -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 8, be amended by adding after line 17 on page 5 the following:

      ``(2.1) the Board shall consist of at least one person representing public post-secondary educational institutions and at least one person representing private post-secondary educational institutions.''

The question was put on Motion No. 13 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 60, NAYS: 197. (See list under Division No. 161)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 16 of Mr. Brison (Kings -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 10, be amended by replacing lines 36 to 39 on page 7 with the following:

    ``(a) the Board is knowledgeable about post-secondary education and learning in Canada, the needs of the Canadian economy and the management of investments; and''

The question was put on Motion No. 16 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 165)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bailey -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brison -- Cadman -- Casson -- Chatters -- Cummins -- Davies -- Desjarlais -- Dockrill -- Duncan -- Earle -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gilmour -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Hardy -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Lill -- Lunn -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mancini -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- McDonough -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Muise -- Nunziata -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Proctor -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Riis -- Ritz -- Robinson -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Solomon -- Stinson -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Vautour -- Vellacott -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 79

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brien -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Crête -- Cullen -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fournier -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pratt -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Saada -- Sauvageau -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Hilaire -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Wappel -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- 178

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bennett -- Collenette -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Finestone -- Gallaway -- Guimond -- Lebel -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- Perron -- Proud

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 19 of Mr. Brison (Kings -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 12, be amended by adding after line 32 on page 8 the following:

      ``(4.1) the Foundation shall have at least one member representing public post-secondary educational institutions and at least one member representing private post-secondary educational institutions.''

The question was put on Motion No. 19 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 59, NAYS: 198. (See list under Division No. 161)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 42 of Mr. Solberg (Medicine Hat), seconded by Mr. Abbott (Kootenay -- Columbia), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 34, be amended by replacing line 16 on page 16 with the following:

    ``appropriate but no scholarship may be granted unless a person who meets the requirements mentioned in paragraphs 27(1)(a) to (d), or a person described in subsection 27(2), makes an application to the Foundation for a scholarship.
      34.1 (1) Where the Foundation does not grant a scholarship to an applicant referred to in section 34 who meets the requirements mentioned in paragraphs 27(1)(a) to (d) or who is a person described in subsection 27(2), the applicant may appeal the Foundation's decision in accordance with the appeal process established by regulations made under subsection (2).
      (2) the Minister of Finance shall, not later than 90 days after the coming into force of this section, make regulations establishing an appeal process for the purposes fo subsection (1). the regulations shall come into force on or before the expiry of those 90 days.''

The question was put on Motion No. 42 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 79, NAYS: 178. (See list under Division No. 165)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 45 of Mr. Brison (Kings -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 36, be amended

    (a) by replacing line 11 on page 17 with the following:
      ``year and next year;''
    (b) by adding after line 13 on page 17 the following:
      ``(e) the names of the five highest paid employees and officers of the Foundation appointed under section 16 and the salary paid by the Foundation to each of these persons;
      (f) a summary of all individuals, and businesses that benefitted from contracts for professional services with the Foundation totalling more than $100,000;
      (g) any written statement referred to in subsection 168(7) of the Canada Business Corporations Act that has been requested and received by a person described in that subsection, from an auditor described in that subsection;
      (h) an executive summary of the findings of any internal audit that has been carried out at the request of the Board; and
      (i) such other information as may, by regulation, be prescribed by the Minister of Finance.''

The question was put on Motion No. 45 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 79, NAYS: 178. (See list under Division No. 164)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 46 of Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Eastern Shore), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 36, be amended

    (a) by replacing line 11 on page 17 with the following:
      ``year and the next year;
    (b) by replacing line 13 on page 17 with the following:
      ``the granting of scholarships during the year; and
      (e) the number of students that were granted scholarships in the year, the name and location by province, of the eligible institutions in which each of those students were enrolled and the program of studies they were pursuing.''

The question was put on Motion No. 46 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 79, NAYS: 178. (See list under Division No. 165)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 48 of Mr. Brison (Kings -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 37, be amended by replacing lines 14 to 17 on page 17 with the following:

      ``37. Every five years after the coming into force of this Act, the Foundation shall cause a review and report to be made by a person who is independent of the Foundation of its activities and organization.''

The question was put on Motion No. 48 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 79, NAYS: 178. (See list under Division No. 165)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 50 of Mr. Brison (Kings -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 38, be amended by replacing lines 18 to 25 on page 17 with the following:

      ``38. Not later than six months after the end of each fiscal year, in the case of a report referred to in section 36, and not later than six months after the report referred to in section 37 has been made, the reports shall be made public and a copy of them shall be sent to the Ministers and to the provincial ministers. the Minister of Human''

The question was put on Motion No. 50 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 79, NAYS: 178. (See list under Division No. 165)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 51 of Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Eastern Shore), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 38, be amended by adding after line 30 on page 17 the following:

      ``(3) A report under section 36 that is laid before each House of Parliament under subsection (2) stands permanently referred to such committee of the House of Commons as is established or designated to review matters related to human resources and education.
      (4) A report under section 37 that is laid before each House of Parliament under subsection (2) shall be referred to such committee of the House of Commons as is established or designated to review matters related to human resources and education.''

The question was put on Motion No. 51 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 79, NAYS: 178. (See list under Division No. 165)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 52 of Mr. Brison (Kings -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 38, be amended by adding after line 30 on page 17 the following:

      ``(3) the reports said before each House of Parliament under subsection (2) stand permanently referred to the standing committee of the House of Commons that normally considers matters relating to human resources development and the standing committee of the Senate that normally considers social affairs.''

The question was put on Motion No. 52 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 79, NAYS: 178. (See list under Division No. 165)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 55 of Mr. Brison (Kings -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 40, be amended by replacing lines 1 to 5 on page 18 with the following:

      ``40. (1) On the recommendation of the Minister of Finance, the Governor in Council shall appoint an auditor for the Foundation for the fiscal year, and the members shall fix, or authorize the Board to fix, the auditor's remuneration.''

The question was put on Motion No. 55 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 34, NAYS: 223 (See list under Division No. 163)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 56 of Mr. Brison (Kings -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 40, be amended by adding after line 24 on page 18 the following:

    ``(c) the Auditor General of Canada.''

The question was put on Motion No. 56 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 79, NAYS: 178. (See list under Division No. 165)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 57 of Mr. Brison (Kings -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 40, be amended by replacing lines 29 to 31 on page 18 with the following:

      ``(4) On the recommendation of the Minister of Finance, the Governor in Council may remove an auditor from office.''

The question was put on Motion No. 57 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 164)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Borotsik -- Brison -- Davies -- Desjarlais -- Dockrill -- Earle -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Hardy -- Harvey -- Herron -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Laliberte -- Lill -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mancini -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- McDonough -- Muise -- Nystrom -- Proctor -- Riis -- Robinson -- Solomon -- Stoffer -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Vautour -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- 33

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Anders -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casson -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Crête -- Cullen -- Cummins -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Epp -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fournier -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Harb -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Konrad -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Loubier -- Lunn -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Mark -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Nunziata -- Obhrai -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pratt -- Provenzano -- Ramsay -- Redman -- Reed -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Saada -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Solberg -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- St-Julien -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vellacott -- Venne -- Wappel -- Whelan -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- 224

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bennett -- Collenette -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Finestone -- Gallaway -- Guimond -- Lebel -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- Perron -- Proud

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 58 of Mr. Brison (Kings -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 40, be amended by replacing lines 38 to 44 on page 18 with the following:

      ``(6) On the recommendation of the Minister of Finance, the Governor in Council shall appoint an auditor to fill any vacancy in the office of the auditor.''

The question was put on Motion No. 58 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 33, NAYS: 224. (See list under Division No. 164)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 65 of Mr. Brison (Kings -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 46, be amended by replacing lines 6 to 10 on page 20 with the following:

      ``46. (1) Subject to subsection (2), from and out of the Consolidated Revenue Fund there may, on the requisition of the Minister of Finance, be paid and applied for payment to the Foundation the sum of two billion five hundred million dollars.
      (2) the sum referred to in subsection (1) shall not be paid to the Foundation in respect of a fiscal year that ended before the date of the coming into force of this Part.''

The question was put on Motion No. 65 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 79, NAYS: 178. (See list under Division No. 165)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 66 of Mr. Brison (Kings -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by adding after line 10 on page 20 the following new clause:

      ``46.1 the Access to Information Act applies to the Foundation as if it were a federal institution.''

The question was put on Motion No. 66 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 79, NAYS: 178. (See list under Division No. 165)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 67 of Mr. Solberg (Medicine Hat), seconded by Mr. Abbott (Kootenay -- Columbia), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by adding after line 10 on page 20 the following new clause:

      ``46.1(1) Where the Foundation enters into an agreement with the provincial minister of a province whereby
    (a) the Foundation shall not carry out its objects and purposes in the province;
    (b) the Foundation promises to pay to the government of the province the amount that the Foundation would otherwise have spent in the province in carrying out its objects and purposes; and
    (c) the provincial minister promises to use the amount referred to in paragraph (b) to address the particular needs of the province in terms of post-secondary education
    the Foundation shall cease to carry out its objects and purposes in the province.

(2) Within ten days after the signing of an agreement referred to in subsection (1), the Foundation shall pay to the government of the province the amount specified in the agreement.''

The question was put on Motion No. 67 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 166)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Bailey -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Cadman -- Casson -- Chatters -- Cummins -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gilmour -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Harris -- Hart -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Lunn -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Obhrai -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Ritz -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Vellacott -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 45

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brien -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Crête -- Cullen -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dockrill -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Earle -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fournier -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Harb -- Hardy -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Keyes -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Lill -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Mancini -- Manley -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Massé -- Matthews -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Nunziata -- Nystrom -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pratt -- Proctor -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Riis -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Saada -- Sauvageau -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Solomon -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Hilaire -- St-Julien -- Stoffer -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vautour -- Venne -- Wappel -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- 212

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bennett -- Collenette -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Finestone -- Gallaway -- Guimond -- Lebel -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- Perron -- Proud

Group No. 2

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 68 of Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Eastern Shore), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 58, be amended by replacing lines 25 and 26 on page 24 with the following:

``(b) raw leaf tobacco intended for retail sale and leaves and stems of the tobacco plant if these leaves and stems have been processed further''

The question was put on Motion No. 68 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 167)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bigras -- Borotsik -- Brien -- Brison -- Canuel -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- Dockrill -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Earle -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Guay -- Hardy -- Harvey -- Herron -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lefebvre -- Lill -- Loubier -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mancini -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- McDonough -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Muise -- Nunziata -- Nystrom -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Proctor -- Riis -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Solomon -- St-Hilaire -- Stoffer -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Vautour -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- 72

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Anders -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bailey -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casson -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chatters -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- Cummins -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Epp -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gilmour -- Godfrey -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Konrad -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Lunn -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Mark -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Obhrai -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Provenzano -- Ramsay -- Redman -- Reed -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Solberg -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- St-Julien -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vellacott -- Wappel -- Whelan -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- 185

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bennett -- Collenette -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Finestone -- Gallaway -- Guimond -- Lebel -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- Perron -- Proud

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 69 of Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Eastern Shore), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 59, be amended by adding after line 17 on page 26 the following:

      ``(9) Notwithstanding subsection (8), the council shall provide the Minister with copy of every by-law that is made under this Division, including a by-law that amends a by-law.
      (10) the Minister shall maintain a list of every by-law provided to the Minister under subsection (9).''

The question was put on Motion No. 69 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 168)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bigras -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Brison -- Cadman -- Canuel -- Casson -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Cummins -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- Dockrill -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Earle -- Epp -- Forseth -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guay -- Hardy -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lefebvre -- Lill -- Loubier -- Lunn -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mancini -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- McDonough -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Muise -- Nunziata -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Proctor -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Riis -- Ritz -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Solomon -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Vautour -- Vellacott -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 116

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Wappel -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- 140

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bennett -- Collenette -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Finestone -- Gallaway -- Guimond -- Lebel -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- Perron -- Proud

Accordingly, Motions Nos. 73 and 76 were also negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 70 of Mr. Solberg (Medicine Hat), seconded by Mr. Abbott (Kootenay -- Columbia), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by adding after line 17 on page 26 the following new clause:

      ``59.1 (1) Where the council has made a by-law imposing a tax under this Division, the council shall maintain books of account and other records in respect of all such taxes that have been collected and expended and the nature of those expenditures.
      (2) the council shall, within six months after the end of each fiscal year, prepare an annual report in respect of the taxes referred to in subsection (1) that were collected and expended in that year which shall include
    (a) the total amount of taxes collected in that year;
    (b) the total amount of taxes expended in that year;
    (c) a detailed account of the nature of the expenditures; and
    (d) any other information the Minister prescribes by regulation.
      (3) the report referred to in subsection (2) shall be made public and a copy sent to the Minister of Finance.
      59.2 (1) A person authorized under subsection (2) shall, as soon as possible after the end of the fiscal year carry out an audit of the books of account and records required to be kept by the council under subsection 59.1(1).
      (2) the Minister shall authorize a person in the Minister's department to carry out an audit under subsection (1).''

The question was put on Motion No. 70 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 79, NAYS: 178. (See list under Division No. 165)

Accordingly, Motions Nos. 74 and 75 were also negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 71 of Mr. Solberg (Medicine Hat), seconded by Mr. Abbott (Kootenay -- Columbia), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 60, be amended by replacing lines 18 to 25 on page 26 with the following:

``60. Where the council has made a by-law imposing a tax under this Division,''

The question was put on Motion No. 71 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 45, NAYS: 212. (See list under Division No. 166)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 72 of Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Eastern Shore), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 62, be amended by replacing line 11 on page 28 with the following:

    ``a fine of not more than $50,000 or to''

The question was put on Motion No. 72 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 169)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Davies -- Desjarlais -- Dockrill -- Earle -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Hardy -- Laliberte -- Lill -- Mancini -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- McDonough -- Nunziata -- Nystrom -- Proctor -- Riis -- Robinson -- Solomon -- Stoffer -- Vautour -- Wasylycia-Leis -- 21

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Anders -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casson -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Crête -- Cullen -- Cummins -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Epp -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fournier -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Harb -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Konrad -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Loubier -- Lunn -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Mark -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Obhrai -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pratt -- Provenzano -- Ramsay -- Redman -- Reed -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Saada -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Solberg -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- St-Julien -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vellacott -- Venne -- Wappel -- Wayne -- Whelan -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- 235

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bennett -- Collenette -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Finestone -- Gallaway -- Guimond -- Lebel -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- Perron -- Proud

Group No. 4

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 78 of Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Eastern Shore), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 81, be amended, in the English version only, by replacing line 6 on page 38 with the following:

    ``Prince Edward Island who purchases the cigarettes or tobacco sticks for consumption by the''

The question was put on Motion No. 78 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 116, NAYS: 140. (See list under Division No. 168)

Accordingly, Motion No. 79 was also negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 80 of Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Eastern Shore), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 82, be amended by replacing line 11 on page 39 with the following:

    ``package where the cigarettes are marked and''

The question was put on Motion No. 80 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 21, NAYS: 235. (See list under Division No. 169)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 81 of Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Eastern Shore), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 82, be amended by replacing line 26 on page 39 with the following:

    ``package where the cigarettes are marked and''

The question was put on Motion No. 81 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 21, NAYS: 235. (See list under Division No. 169)

Group No. 5

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 82 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 91.

The question was put on Motion No. 82 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 170)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bigras -- Brien -- Canuel -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Guay -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lefebvre -- Loubier -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- St-Hilaire -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Venne -- 37

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Anders -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bailey -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casson -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chatters -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- Cummins -- Davies -- Desjarlais -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dockrill -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Earle -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Epp -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gilmour -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Hardy -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Konrad -- Kraft Sloan -- Laliberte -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Lill -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Lunn -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Mancini -- Manley -- Marchi -- Mark -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Massé -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Nunziata -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proctor -- Provenzano -- Ramsay -- Redman -- Reed -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Riis -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Saada -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Solberg -- Solomon -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- St-Julien -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vautour -- Vellacott -- Wappel -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- Whelan -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- 219

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bennett -- Collenette -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Finestone -- Gallaway -- Guimond -- Lebel -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- Perron -- Proud

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 83 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 91, be amended by replacing line 3 on page 44 with the following:

    ``Supplementary Child Tax Benefit''

The question was put on Motion No. 83 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 37, NAYS: 219. (See list under Division No. 170)

Group No. 6

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 84 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 100.

The question was put on Motion No. 84 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 116, NAYS: 140. (See list under Division No. 168)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 85 of Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Eastern Shore), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 100, be amended by replacing lines 16 to 23 on page 49 with the following:

    ``100. Paragraph 15(l) of the Act is replaced''

The question was put on Motion No. 85 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 116, NAYS: 140. (See list under Division No. 168)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 86 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 100, be amended by replacing lines 19 and 20 on page 49 with the following:

    ``which an interest-''

The question was put on Motion No. 86 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 116, NAYS: 140. (See list under Division No. 168)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 87 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 103.

The question was put on Motion No. 87 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 171)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bigras -- Brien -- Canuel -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- Dockrill -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Earle -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Guay -- Hardy -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lefebvre -- Lill -- Loubier -- Mancini -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- McDonough -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Nystrom -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Proctor -- Riis -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Solomon -- St-Hilaire -- Stoffer -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Vautour -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- 57

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Anders -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bailey -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casson -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chatters -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- Cummins -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Epp -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gilmour -- Godfrey -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Konrad -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Lunn -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Mark -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Nunziata -- Obhrai -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Provenzano -- Ramsay -- Redman -- Reed -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Solberg -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- St-Julien -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vellacott -- Wappel -- Wayne -- Whelan -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- 199

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bennett -- Collenette -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Finestone -- Gallaway -- Guimond -- Lebel -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- Perron -- Proud

Group No. 7

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 88 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 104, be amended

    (a) by replacing lines 4 to 11 on page 51 with the following:
        ``(8.2) With respect to 1999, the Minister shall refund, in the prescribed manner, to designated persons the prescribed portion of the amount determined by the following formula if that amount is more than $1:

(E2-E1) x P1999

    where
      E1 is the total of all insurable earnings paid in 1998 by the employer, for which premiums were deductible, in respect of employees who were 18 years of age or older but younger than 25 at any time during 1998;
      E2 is the total of all insurable earnings paid in 1999 by the employer, for which premiums were deductible, in respect of employees who were 18 years of age or older but younger than 25 at any time during 1999; and
      P1999 is 1.4 times the premium rate for 1999.
      (8.21) For the purposes of subsection (8.2), designated persons means persons who have paid the employee's premium or the employer's premium in 1999.''
    (b) by replacing lines 3 to 40 on page 52 with the following:
        ``(9) If at any time during a year for which a refund is sought two or more employers are associated, as defined by the regulations, they shall be considered a single employer for the purposes of subsections (6) to (8.3) and any refund shall be allocated to them in the prescribed manner.''

The question was put on Motion No. 88 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 102, NAYS: 154. (See list under Division No. 159)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 89 of Mr. Brison (Kings -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 104, be amended by replacing lines 4 to 23 on page 51 and lines 1 to 40 on page 52 with the following:

      ``(8.2) With respect to 1999 and 2000, the Minister shall refund to the employer the amount by which the total of all amounts paid by the employer as the employer's premium during each of these years exceeds 2.8% of the total insurable earnings paid by the employer to his employees for each of these years.
      (8.3) With respect to 1999 and 2000, the Minister shall refund to each employee the amount by which the total of all amounts paid by the employee as the employee's premium for each of these years exceeds 2% of the total of all insurable earnings received by the employee for each of these years.
      (8.4) the refunds provided for in this section are payable by the Minister within three months after the end of the year for which the premiums were deducted or payable.''

The question was put on Motion No. 89 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 172)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bailey -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brison -- Cadman -- Casson -- Chatters -- Cummins -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gilmour -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Lunn -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Muise -- Nunziata -- Obhrai -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Ritz -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Vellacott -- Wayne -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 59

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brien -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Crête -- Cullen -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dockrill -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Earle -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fournier -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goodale -- Graham -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Harb -- Hardy -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Lill -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Mancini -- Manley -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Nystrom -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pratt -- Proctor -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Riis -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Saada -- Sauvageau -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Solomon -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Hilaire -- St-Julien -- Stoffer -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vautour -- Venne -- Wappel -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- 197

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bennett -- Collenette -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Finestone -- Gallaway -- Guimond -- Lebel -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- Perron -- Proud

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 90 of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 104, be amended by replacing lines 12 to 23 on page 51 and lines 1 to 40 on page 52 with the following:

      ``(8.3) With respect to 2000, the Minister shall, in the prescribed manner, refund to designated persons the prescribed portion of the amount determined by the following formula if that amount is more than $1:

(E2-E1) x P2000

    Where
      E1 is the total of all insurable earnings paid in 1998 by the employer, for which premiums were deductible, in respect of employees who were 18 years of age or older but younger than 25 at any time during 1998;
      E2 is the total of all insurable earnings paid in 2000 by the employer, for which premiums were deductible, in respect of employees who were 18 years of age or older but younger than 25 at any time during 2000; and
      P2000 is 1.4 times the premium rate for 2000.
        (8.31) For the purposes of subsection (8.3), designated persons means persons who have paid the employee's premium or the employer's premium in 2000.
        (9) If at any time during a year for which a refund is sought two or more employers are associated, as defined by the regulations, they shall be considered a single employer for the purposes of subsections (6) to (8.3) and any refund shall be allocated to them in the prescribed manner.''

The question was put on Motion No. 90 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 102, NAYS: 154. (See list under Division No. 159)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 91 of Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Eastern Shore), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 104, be amended by replacing lines 10 to 13 on page 52 with the following:

    ``payable to the employer, the employer shall pay to the Minister by way of penalty, an amount equal to twice the amount of the refund that was applied for or received, as the case may be, by the employer.
      (8.41) An amount required to be paid by way of penalty by an employer under subsection (8.4) and any interest thereon constitutes a debt to Her Majesty in right of Canada and may be recovered as such in any count of competent jurisdiction.''

The question was put on Motion No. 91 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 116, NAYS: 140. (See list under Division No. 168)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 92 of Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Eastern Shore), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 104, be amended by deleting lines 14 to 20 on page 52.

The question was put on Motion No. 92 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 116, NAYS: 140. (See list under Division No. 168)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 93 of Mr. Solberg (Medicine Hat), seconded by Mr. Abbott (Kootenay -- Columbia), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 104, be amended by adding after line 40 on page 52 the following:

      ``(11) Notwithstanding any other provision in this Act, where the total amount of monies expended in a year to pay benefits is less than fifty per cent of the total amount of monies paid in that year by any of premiums, the Minister shall, in the next year, reduce the premium rate by the amount of unexpended monies that exceeds the amount of those monies that is equal to the amount of monies expended to pay those benefits. the Minister shall, by regulation, carry out such calculations as the Minister deems necessary to effect the reduction.''

The question was put on Motion No. 93 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 59, NAYS: 197. (See list under Division No. 172)

Group No. 8

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 94 of Mr. Brison (Kings -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 105, be amended by deleting lines 4 to 26 on page 53.

The question was put on Motion No. 94 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 116, NAYS: 140. (See list under Division No. 168)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 95 of Mr. Brison (Kings -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 108, be amended by deleting lines 5 to 13 on page 56.

The question was put on Motion No. 95 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 116, NAYS: 140. (See list under Division No. 168)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 96 of Mr. Brison (Kings -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 109, be amended by deleting lines 36 to 45 on page 56.

The question was put on Motion No. 96 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 173)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bigras -- Borotsik -- Brien -- Brison -- Canuel -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- Dockrill -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Earle -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Guay -- Hardy -- Harvey -- Herron -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lefebvre -- Lill -- Loubier -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mancini -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- McDonough -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Muise -- Nunziata -- Nystrom -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Proctor -- Riis -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Solomon -- St-Hilaire -- Stoffer -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Vautour -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- 71

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Anders -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bailey -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casson -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chatters -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- Cummins -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Epp -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gilmour -- Godfrey -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Konrad -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Lunn -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Mark -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Obhrai -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Provenzano -- Ramsay -- Redman -- Reed -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Solberg -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- St-Julien -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vellacott -- Wappel -- Whelan -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- 185

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bennett -- Collenette -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Finestone -- Gallaway -- Guimond -- Lebel -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- Perron -- Proud

Group No. 9

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 97 of Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Eastern Shore), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 125.

The question was put on Motion No. 97 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 34, NAYS: 223. (See list under Division No. 163)

Accordingly, Motions Nos. 98 to 102 and 104 to 106 were also negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 103 of Mr. Bachand (Richmond -- Arthabaska), seconded by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 130, be amended by replacing line 17 on page 78 with the following:

``Monetary Fund arrangement;

    (a.1) the foreign state has either human rights record that is acceptable to the Canadian government or if it does not have such a record, is making substantial progress towards improving its human rights record so that it will be acceptable to the Canadian government;
    (a.2) the foreign state has ratified or signed the Convention on the prohibition of the use, stockpiling, production and transfer of anti-personnel mines and their destruction; and''

The question was put on Motion No. 103 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 34, NAYS: 223. (See list under Division No. 163)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 107 of Mr. Solberg (Medicine Hat), seconded by Mr. Abbott (Kootenay -- Columbia), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 133, be amended by replacing line 9 on page 80 with the following:

      ``133. (1) Sections 2 to 46 shall not come into force unless, on a day following the day this Act receives royal assent, the amount referred to in section 46 is, in accordance with objective accounting standards recommended by the Canadian Institute of Chartered Accountants, credited to the Consolidated Revenue Fund as a liability for the fiscal year 1998-99, in which case those sections shall come into force on the day that amount is so credited.
      (2) Sections 127 to 132 come into force''

The question was put on Motion No. 107 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 79, NAYS: 178. (See list under Division No. 165)

Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Public Works and Government Services), moved, -- That Bill C-36, An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on February 24, 1998, be concurred in at report stage.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 174)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Nunziata -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Wappel -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- 141

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bigras -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Brison -- Cadman -- Canuel -- Casson -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Cummins -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- Dockrill -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Earle -- Epp -- Forseth -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guay -- Hardy -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lefebvre -- Lill -- Loubier -- Lunn -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mancini -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- McDonough -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Muise -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Proctor -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Riis -- Ritz -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Solomon -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Vautour -- Vellacott -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 115

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bennett -- Collenette -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Finestone -- Gallaway -- Guimond -- Lebel -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- Perron -- Proud

Accordingly, the Bill was concurred in at report stage and ordered for a third reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. MacAulay (Cardigan), seconded by Ms. Robillard (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration), -- That Bill C-19, An Act to amend the Canada Labour Code (Part I) and the Corporations and Labour Unions Returns Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, be now read a third time and do pass.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 175)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- Davies -- Desjarlais -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dockrill -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Earle -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goodale -- Graham -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Hardy -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Laliberte -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Lill -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Mancini -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Nystrom -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proctor -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Riis -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Solomon -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Julien -- Stoffer -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vautour -- Wappel -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- 160

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bigras -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Brison -- Cadman -- Canuel -- Casson -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Cummins -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guay -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lefebvre -- Loubier -- Lunn -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Muise -- Nunziata -- Obhrai -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Ritz -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Vellacott -- Venne -- Wayne -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 96

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bennett -- Collenette -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Finestone -- Gallaway -- Guimond -- Lebel -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- Perron -- Proud

Accordingly, the Bill was read a third time and passed.

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

Pursuant to Order made Tuesday, May 12, 1998, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Ms. Vautour (Beauséjour -- Petitcodiac), -- That, in the opinion of this House, the government should consider the advisability of giving to the members of the MacKenzie-Papineau Battalion and other Canadians who fought with Spanish Republican forces in the Spanish Civil War between 1936 and 1939, the status of veterans under the federal legislation and making them eligible for veterans' pensions and benefits. (Private Members' Business M-75)

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 176)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bigras -- Brien -- Caccia -- Canuel -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- Dockrill -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Earle -- Folco -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Guay -- Hardy -- Jennings -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- Lefebvre -- Lill -- Lincoln -- Loubier -- Mancini -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- McDonough -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Nunziata -- Nystrom -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Proctor -- Riis -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Solomon -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- Stoffer -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Vautour -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- 66

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Anders -- Anderson -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bailey -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Cadman -- Calder -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casson -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chatters -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- Cummins -- DeVillers -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Epp -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gilmour -- Godfrey -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Graham -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hubbard -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Knutson -- Konrad -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lee -- Leung -- Longfield -- Lunn -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Mark -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Massé -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Obhrai -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Patry -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Provenzano -- Ramsay -- Redman -- Reed -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Rock -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Solberg -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Julien -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vellacott -- Wappel -- Wayne -- Whelan -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- 171

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bennett -- Collenette -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Finestone -- Gallaway -- Guimond -- Lebel -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- Perron -- Proud


Pursuant to Order made Tuesday, May 12, 1998, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Ms. Picard (Drummond), seconded by Ms. Dalphond-Guiral (Laval Centre), -- That Bill C-247, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (genetic manipulation), be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Health.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 177)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Assadourian -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bigras -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Brison -- Bryden -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Canuel -- Casson -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Cummins -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- Dockrill -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Earle -- Epp -- Forseth -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Hardy -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Jones -- Karygiannis -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Kerpan -- Knutson -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Lill -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Loubier -- Lunn -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mancini -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- McDonough -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Muise -- Nunziata -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Proctor -- Provenzano -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Riis -- Ritz -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Solomon -- Steckle -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- St-Julien -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Telegdi -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Vautour -- Vellacott -- Venne -- Wappel -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 134

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Charbonneau -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Godfrey -- Graham -- Grose -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Keyes -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Leung -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Marleau -- Massé -- McCormick -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Pagtakhan -- Patry -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Shepherd -- St. Denis -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- 101

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bennett -- Collenette -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Finestone -- Gallaway -- Guimond -- Lebel -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- Perron -- Proud

Accordingly, the Bill was read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Health.


Pursuant to Order made earlier today, the House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca), seconded by Mr. Lunn (Saanich -- Gulf Islands), -- That, in the opinion of this House, the government should: (a) develop, along with their provincial counterparts, a comprehensive National Head Start Program for children in their first 8 years of life; (b) ensure that this integrated program involves both hospitals and schools, and is modelled on the experiences of the Moncton Head Start Program, Hawaii Head Start Program, and PERRY Pre-School Program; and (c) ensure that the program is implemented by the year 2000. (Private Members' Business M-261)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the amendment of Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Eastern Shore), seconded by Mr. Godin (Acadie -- Bathurst), -- That the motion be amended by adding after the word ``counterparts'' the following:

    ``and leaders of aboriginal communities''

The question was put on the amendment and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 178)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bailey -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellemare -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bertrand -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casson -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Charbonneau -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- Cummins -- Davies -- Desjarlais -- DeVillers -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dockrill -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Earle -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Epp -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goldring -- Graham -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Hardy -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hoeppner -- Hubbard -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Keyes -- Knutson -- Konrad -- Kraft Sloan -- Laliberte -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Lill -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Lunn -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Mancini -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Massé -- Matthews -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Nunziata -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proctor -- Provenzano -- Ramsay -- Redman -- Richardson -- Riis -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Solberg -- Solomon -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Julien -- Stoffer -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Vanclief -- Vautour -- Vellacott -- Wappel -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wilfert -- Williams -- 170

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bigras -- Brien -- Canuel -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Guay -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Kerpan -- Laurin -- Lefebvre -- Loubier -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Morrison -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Reynolds -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Venne -- 44

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bennett -- Collenette -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Finestone -- Gallaway -- Guimond -- Lebel -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- Perron -- Proud

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on the main motion, as amended, of Mr. Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca), seconded by Mr. Lunn (Saanich -- Gulf Islands), -- That, in the opinion of this House, the government should: (a) develop, along with their provincial counterparts and leaders of aboriginal communities, a comprehensive National Head Start Program for children in their first 8 years of life; (b) ensure that this integrated program involves both hospitals and schools, and is modelled on the experiences of the Moncton Head Start Program, Hawaii Head Start Program, and PERRY Pre-School Program; and (c) ensure that the program is implemented by the year 2000. (Private Members' Business M-261)

The question was put on the main motion, as amended, and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 179)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Anders -- Anderson -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bailey -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bertrand -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casson -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Charbonneau -- Chatters -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- Cummins -- Davies -- Desjarlais -- DeVillers -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dockrill -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Earle -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Epp -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gilmour -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goldring -- Graham -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Hardy -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hubbard -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Knutson -- Konrad -- Kraft Sloan -- Laliberte -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Lill -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Lunn -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Mancini -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Nunziata -- Obhrai -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proctor -- Provenzano -- Ramsay -- Redman -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Riis -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Solberg -- Solomon -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- St-Julien -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Vanclief -- Vautour -- Vellacott -- Wappel -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- 186

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bigras -- Brien -- Canuel -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Guay -- Laurin -- Lefebvre -- Loubier -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- St-Hilaire -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Venne -- 35

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bennett -- Collenette -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Finestone -- Gallaway -- Guimond -- Lebel -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- Perron -- Proud

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH the CLERK OF the HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:

-- by Mr. Axworthy (Minister of Foreign Affairs) -- Reports of the International Development Research Centre for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1998, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-361-701A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

-- by Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board) -- Actuarial Report (including Certification of Assets) on the Public Service Death Benefit Account as at March 31, 1996, pursuant to the Public Service Superannuation Act, S.C. 1992, c. 46, s. 28. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-222. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Natural Resources and Government Operations)

-- by Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board) -- Actuarial Report (including Certification of Assets) on the Regular Force Death Benefit Account as at March 31, 1997, pursuant to the Canadian Forces Superannuation Act, R.S. 1985, c. C-17, s. 71. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-395. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Natural Resources and Government Operations)

-- by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development) -- Report of the Northern Oil and Gas for the year ended December 31, 1997, pursuant to the Canada Petroleum Resources Act, R. S. 1985, c. 36 (2nd Supp.), s. 109. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-455A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Natural Resources and Government Operations)

PETITIONS FILED WITH the CLERK OF the HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were filed as follows:

-- by Mr. Milliken (Kingston and the Islands), one concerning international trade (No. 361-0968) and one concerning children's rights (No. 361-0969).

PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION

At 8:09 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question ``That this House do now adjourn'' was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

ADJOURNMENT

At 8:20 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).