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MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 26, 1996
(Meeting No. 18)
(Meeting No. 18)
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The Standing Committee on Human Rights and the Status of Persons with Disabilities met at 11:01 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 307, West Block for the purpose of electing a Chair and two Vice-Chairs, pursuant to Standing Orders 106(1) and 106(2).
Members of the Committee present: Warren Allmand, Sarkis Assadourian, Maurice Bernier, Sheila Finestone, Sharon Hayes, Réal Ménard and Andy Scott.
Acting Members present: Roseanne Skoke for Russell MacLellan; Nick Discepola for Jean Augustine; Marlene Catterall for Warren Allmand; Chuck Strahl for Deborah Grey.
In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Susan Alter, Nancy Holmes and Bill Young, Research Officers.
The Clerk of the Committee presided over the election of a Chair.
On motion of John Godfrey it was agreed,--That Sheila Finestone be elected Chair of the Committee.
Accordingly, Sheila Finestone was declared duly elected Chair of the Committee and took the Chair.
On motion of Nick Discepola, it was agreed,--That Andy Scott be elected Vice-Chair of the Committee.
Réal Ménard moved,--That Maurice Bernier be elected Vice-Chair of the Committee.
Chuck Strahl proposed to move,--That Sharon Hayes be elected Vice-Chair of the Committee.
It was agreed,--That Maurice Bernier be elected Vice-Chair of the Committee on the following recorded division:
YEAS
Sarkis Assadourian
Sheila Finestone
Maurice Bernier
John Godfrey
Marlene Catterall
Réal Ménard
Nick Discepola
Andy Scott--(8)
Sheila Finestone Maurice Bernier
John Godfrey Marlene Catterall
Réal Ménard Nick Discepola
Andy Scott--(8)
NAYS
Sharon Hayes
Chuck Strahl--(2)
Chuck Strahl--(2)
On motion of Maurice Bernier it was agreed,--That the Chair, the two Vice-Chairs and one other Member appointed by the Chair after the usual consultations with the Whips of the different parties, do compose the Sub-Committee on Agenda and Procedure.
At 11:43 o'clock a.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
Wayne Cole
Clerk of the Committee
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 1, 1996
(Meeting No. 19)
The Evidence for this meeting is not available because it was held in camera.
(Meeting No. 19)
The Evidence for this meeting is not available because it was held in camera.
The Standing Committee on Human Rights and the Status of Persons with Disabilities met in camera at 11:09 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 701, La Promenade, the Chairman, Sheila Finestone, presiding.
Members of the Committee present: Warren Allmand, Jean Augustine, Maurice Bernier, Sheila Finestone, John Godfrey, Deborah Grey, Russell MacLellan, Réal Ménard and Andy Scott.
In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Susan Alter, Nancy Holmes and Bill Young, Research Officers.
It was agreed,--That two background meetings be scheduled to provide an overview of the impact of new technologies on privacy rights;
--That David Flaherty, Ann Cavoukian and Paul-André Comeau be invited to the first background meeting and
--That Mark Rotenberg and Simon Davies be invited to appear, either in person or by videoteleconference at the second background meeting.
It was agreed,--That the Committee televise its hearings on new technologies and privacy rights.
Notice was given of the following motion:
--That the Standing Committee on Human Rights and the Status of Persons with Disabilities strike a sub-committee with the mandate to look into the recognition of same-sex partners in the public service and all other related issues. The sub-committee would report back to the Committee no later than June 23, 1997.
At 12:32 o'clock p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 9, 1996
(Meeting No. 20)
(Meeting No. 20)
The Standing Committee on Human Rights and the Status of Persons with Disabilities met at 8:42 o'clock a.m. this day, in the Grand Ballroom, Sheraton Centre, Toronto, the Chairperson, Sheila Finestone, presiding.
Members of the Committee present: Sarkis Assadourian, Maurice Bernier, Sheila Finestone and Russell MacLellan.
In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Bill Young, Research Officer.
Witnesses: From the Canadian Injured Workers Alliance: Steve Mantis. From the Canadian Life and Health Insurance Association: Charles C. Black, Senior Advisor, Insurance Operations. From the Lieden Institute for Public Policy: Prof. Leo J.M. Aarts.
In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 108(3), an examination of the integration and equality of disabled persons.
The witnesses made opening statements and answered questions.
At 9:52 o'clock a.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 22, 1996
(Meeting No. 21)
(Meeting No. 21)
The Standing Committee on Human Rights and the Status of Persons with Disabilities met at 11:35 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 701, La Promenade, the Chairman, Sheila Finestone, presiding.
Members of the Committee present: Jean Augustine, Maurice Bernier, Sheila Finestone, Russell MacLellan, Réal Ménard and Andy Scott.
In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Susan Alter and Nancy Holmes, Research Officers.
Witnesses: By videoteleconference: From Victoria, B.C.: From the Information and Privacy Commission of British Columbia: David Flaherty, Commissioner. From Toronto, Ontario: From the Officer of the Information and Privacy Commissioner of Ontario: Ann Cavoukian, Deputy Commissioner, Privacy. From Brussels, Belgium: From the Access to Information Commission of Québec: Paul-André Comeau, Chairman.
In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 108(3), a study of new technologies and privacy rights. (See Minutes of Proceedings of Thursday, June 13, 1996, Issue No. 2).
The witnesses made opening statements and answered questions.
At 1:05 o'clock p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 24, 1996
(Meeting No. 22)
(Meeting No. 22)
The Standing Committee on Human Rights and the Status of Persons with Disabilities met at 11:07 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 701, La Promenade, the Chairman, Sheila Finestone, presiding.
Members of the Committee present: Warren Allmand, Sarkis Assadourian, Maurice Bernier, Sheila Finestone, John Godfrey, Deborah Grey, Russell MacLellan and Andy Scott.
In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Susan Alter and Nancy Holmes, Research Officers.
Witnesses: By videoteleconference: From Washington, D.C.: From the Electronic Privacy Information Centre (EPIC): Mark Rotenberg, Director. From London (U.K.): From Privacy International Inc. (U.K.): Simon Davies, Director General.
In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 108(3), a study of new technologies and privacy rights. (See Minutes of Proceedings of Thursday, June 13, 1996, Issue No. 2).
The witnesses made opening statements and answered questions.
At 12:46 o'clock p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 29, 1996
(Meeting No. 23)
The Evidence for this meeting is not available because it was held in camera.
(Meeting No. 23)
The Evidence for this meeting is not available because it was held in camera.
The Standing Committee on Human Rights and the Status of Persons with Disabilities met in camera at 11:12 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 209, West Block, the Chair, Sheila Finestone, presiding.
Members of the Committee present: Warren Allmand, Sarkis Assadourian, Jean Augustine, Maurice Bernier, Sheila Finestone, John Godfrey, Sharon Hayes, Russell MacLellan and Andy Scott.
In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Susan Alter and Nancy Holmes, Research Officers.
The Committee proceeded to the consideration of future business.
It was agreed,--That, during the course of its study on new technologies and privacy rights, the Standing Committee on Human Rights and the Status of Persons with Disabilities be authorized to broadcast its proceedings from rooms other than Room 253-D in the Centre Block, and that the Committee be authorized to broadcast either nationally, over the CPAC network, or on a regional basis, as the Committee may deem it appropriate.
It was agreed,--That the Committee invite representatives from the Solicitor General or the Justice Department to give an update on current legislation relating to audio technologies such as bugging and eavesdropping.
It was agreed,--That the Committee invite Bruce Phillips to comment on the various study topics that were circulated by the research staff.
At 12:55 o'clock p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 21, 1996
(Meeting No. 24)
(Meeting No. 24)
The Standing Committee on Human Rights and the Status of Persons with Disabilities met in a televised session at 11:06 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 209, West Block, the Chairman, Sheila Finestone, presiding.
Members of the Committee present: Warren Allmand, Sarkis Assadourian, Maurice Bernier, Sheila Finestone and John Godfrey.
In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Susan Alter, Nancy Holmes and Bill Young, Research Officers.
Witness: From the Privacy Commissioner of Canada: Bruce Phillips, Privacy Commissioner.
In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 108(3), a study of new technologies and privacy rights. (See Minutes of Proceedings of Thursday, June 13, 1996, Issue No. 2).
Bruce Phillips made an opening statement and answered questions.
At 1:04 o'clock p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
Eugene Morawski
Committee Clerk
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 26, 1996
(Meeting No. 25)
(Meeting No. 25)
The Standing Committee on Human Rights and the Status of Persons with Disabilities met at 11:12 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 209, West Block, the Chairman, Sheila Finestone, presiding.
Members of the Committee present: Warren Allmand, Sarkis Assadourian, Sheila Finestone, John Godfrey, Russell MacLellan, Réal Ménard and Andy Scott.
Acting Members present: Robert Bertrand for Jean Augustine; Benoît Tremblay for Maurice Bernier.
In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Susan Alter, Nancy Holmes and Bill Young, Research Officers.
Witnesses: As individuals: Ian Lawson, Barrister and Consultant; René Laperrière, Professor, ``Département des sciences juridiques'', ``Université du Québec à Montréal''.
In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 108(3), a study of new technologies and privacy rights. (See Minutes of Proceedings of Thursday, June 13, 1996, Issue No. 2).
Ian Lawson and René Laperrière made opening statements and answered questions.
At 1:01 o'clock p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
Wayne Cole
Clerk of the Committee
THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 28, 1996
(Meeting No. 26)
(Meeting No. 26)
The Standing Committee on Human Rights and the Status of Persons with Disabilities met at 11:56 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 209, West Block, the Chairman, Sheila Finestone, presiding.
Members of the Committee present: Warren Allmand, Jean Augustine, Maurice Bernier, Sheila Finestone, Russell MacLellan and Andy Scott.
In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Susan Alter and Nancy Holmes, Research Officers.
Witness: As individual: Andrew Reddick, Director of Research, Public Interest Advocacy Centre.
In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 108(3), a study of new technologies and privacy rights. (See Minutes of Proceedings of Thursday, June 13, 1996, Issue No. 2).
At 11:57 o'clock a.m., by unanimous consent, the Committee proceeded to sit in camera.
It was agreed,--That the proposed budget of $43,020 for the study of New Technologies and Privacy Rights be adopted and that the Chair present it to the Budget Sub-Committee of the Liaison Committee.
It was agreed,--That as part of its study of New Technologies and Privacy Rights, the Committee seek permission for six Members to travel to Vancouver, Calgary, Toronto, Montreal and Fredericton, during the week of February 10-14, 1997, for the purpose of holding televised hearings, that the necessary staff accompany the Committee, that the proposed travel budget of $135,857.80 be approved and that the Chair present it to the Budget Sub-Committee of the Liaison Committee.
It was agreed,--That as part of its planned cross-country hearings on New Technologies and Privacy Rights, the Committee hire one or more consultants to deal with witness identification and recruitment and media relations and that a budget of $29,950.00 be adopted for this purpose and that the Chair present the budget to the Budget Sub-Committee of the Liaison Committee.
It was agreed,--That documents for the use of the Committee and its members be purchased from time to time, at the discretion of the Chair.
At 12:44 o'clock p.m., the Committee resumed in public session.
Andrew Reddick made a statement.
At 12:58 o'clock p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 3, 1996
(Meeting No. 27)
(Meeting No. 27)
The Standing Committee on Human Rights and the Status of Persons with Disabilities met, in a televised sitting at 11:07 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 209, West Block, the Chairman, Sheila Finestone, presiding.
Members of the Committee present: Sarkis Assadourian, Maurice Bernier, Sheila Finestone, John Godfrey, Deborah Grey, Russell MacLellan, and Andy Scott.
In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Susan Alter, Nancy Holmes and Bill Young, Research Officers.
Witnesses: From Intercon Security Inc.: Richard Chenoweth, Corporate Vice-President; Alan Bell, Manager, Corporate Resource Group. From the Canadian Civil Liberties Association: Kenneth Swan. As individual: Steven Skurka, Barrister. From the Department of Justice: Fred Bobiasz, Counsel, Criminal Law Policy Section.
In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 108(3), a study of new technologies and privacy rights. (See Minutes of Proceedings of Thursday, June 13, 1996, Issue No. 2).
The witnesses made opening statements and answered questions.
At 1:08 o'clock p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
THURSDAY, DECEMBER 5, 1996
(Meeting No. 28)
(Meeting No. 28)
The Standing Committee on Human Rights and the Status of Persons with Disabilities met in a televised session, at 11:16 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 209, West Block, the Chairman, Sheila Finestone, presiding.
Members of the Committee present: Warren Allmand, Sarkis Assadourian, Maurice Bernier, Sheila Finestone and Russell MacLellan.
In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Susan Alter, Nancy Holmes and Bill Young, Research Officers.
Witnesses: From McGill University: Professor Margaret Somerville, Faculty of Law; Trudo Lemmens, Researcher, Bio-medical Ethics Unit. From the Office of the Federal Privacy Commissioner: Eugene Oscapella, Policy Advisor. From the Canadian Life and Health Insurance Association Inc.: Charles Black, Senior Advisor, Insurance Operations. From the Canadian Cystic Fibrosis Foundation: Cathleen Morrison, Executive Director.
In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 108(3), a study of new technologies and Privacy Rights. (See Minutes of Proceedings of Thursday, June 13, 1996, Issue No. 2).
Eugene Oscapella, Charles Black and Trudo Lemmens made opening statements.
At 12:01 o'clock p.m. the sitting was suspended.
At 12:55 o'clock p.m. the sitting resumed.
Cathleen Morrison and Margaret Somerville made opening statements, and with the other witnesses, answered questions.
At 2:12 o'clock p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 10, 1996
(Meeting No. 29)
(Meeting No. 29)
The Standing Committee on Human Rights and the Status of Persons with Disabilities met in a televised session, at 11:17 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 209, West Block, the Chairman, Sheila Finestone, presiding.
Members of the Committee present: Warren Allmand, Maurice Bernier, Sheila Finestone, John Godfrey and Sharon Hayes.
Acting Member present: Geoff Regan for Andy Scott.
In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Susan Alter, Nancy Holmes and Bill Young, Research Officers.
Witnesses: From Mytec Technologies Inc.: George Tomko, President. From the Municipality of Metropolitan Toronto: Rita Reynolds, Manager, Corporate Access and Privacy Office. From «Bureau du protecteur du citoyen» (Québec): Micheline McNicoll, «avocate et déléguée du protecteur». From Revenue Canada: Stuart MacPherson, Manager, Programme Development Division, Travellers Directorate, Customs Border Services Branch.
In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 108(3), a study of new technologies and Privacy Rights. (See Minutes of Proceedings of Thursday, June 13, 1996, Issue no. 2).
The witnesses made opening statements and answered questions.
At 1:09 o'clock p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
THURSDAY, DECEMBER 12, 1996
(Meeting No.
30)
(Meeting No. 30)
The Standing Committee on Human Rights and the Status of Persons with Disabilities met in a televised sitting at 11:08 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 209, West Block, the Chairman, Sheila Finestone, presiding.
Members of the Committee present: Warren Allmand, Jean Augustine, Maurice Bernier, Sheila Finestone, John Godfrey, Russell MacLellan.
In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Susan Alter, Nancy Holmes and Bill Young, Research Officers.
Witnesses: As individual: Andrew Reddick, Director of Research, Public Interest Advocacy Centre. Marie Vallée, Telecommunication Analyst, ``Fédération des associations de consommateurs du Québec''.
In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 108(3), a study of new technologies and Privacy Rights. (See Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence of Thursday, June 13, 1996, Issue No. 2).
Andrew Reddick and Marie Vallée made opening statements and answered questions.
On motion of Jean Augustine, it was agreed,--That the Clerk, on the instructions of the Steering Committee, make the necessary contractual arrangements for consultant services in relation to the Committee's cross-country hearings on New Technology and Privacy Rights.
It was agreed,--That the deadline for applications for the 1997 Centennial Flame Research Award be March 31, 1997 and that the amount of the award for 1997 be $2,500.
It was agreed,--That a press release be issued inviting candidates for the 1997 Centennial Flame Research Award, and that the press release be posted on the Committee's Internet site.
At 12:57 o'clock p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
Wayne Cole
Clerk of the Committee