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MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS


WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 1, 1995
(Meeting No. 47)

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The Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans met at 2:30 o'clock p.m. this day, in Room 701, La Promenade, the Chairman, Ron MacDonald, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Herb Dhaliwal, Ron MacDonald, Jean Payne, Mike Scott, Harry Verran, Derek Wells.

In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Alan Nixon, Research Officer.

Witnesses: By Teleconference: FROM HALIFAX, NOVA SCOTIA: From the Centre for Foreign Policy Studies / Naval Officers Association of Canada: Rear Admiral Fred W. Crickard, RCN (retired), National President, Naval Officers Association of Canada. From the Oceans Institute of Canada: David VanderZwaag, Associate; David Copp, Associate; Phillip Saunders, Associate; Dr. Aldo Chircop, Associate. From the Nova Scotia Legislative Assembly: Robert Chisholm, MLA (Halifax-Atlantic), NDP Fisheries Critic. From Area 18 Snow Crab Fishermen's Association: Cameron MacKenzie, President. From Nova Scotia Fish: Joseph Boudreau, Director, Gulf Region. FROM OTTAWA, ONTARIO: From Area 19 Snow Crab Fishermen's Association: Deborah M. Baker, Barrister & Solicitor. FROM HALIFAX, NOVA SCOTIA: From the Environmental Coalition of P.E.I.: Irene Novaczek, Fisheries Coordinator. Individual presentation: Stuart Beaton. From the Nova Scotia Oceans Initiative: Hugh A. Macpherson, Member, Advisory Council; Fred Guptill, Member, Advisory Council. From West Nova Fishermen's Coalition: Henry Surette, Vice-President. From the Coastal Community Network: Jim Legge. From the Department of Fisheries and Oceans: Barry Rashotte, Director, Resource Management-Atlantic; Camille Mageau, Senior Advisor, Oceans Program Branch; Jack Gallagher, Strategic Planning Group, Canadian Coast Guard.

Pursuant to an Order of Reference of the House dated October 3, 1995, the Committee resumed consideration of Bill C-98, An Act respecting the oceans of Canada (See Minutes of Proceedings dated Thursday, October 5, 1995, Issue No. 27).

The witnesses made opening statements and answered questions.

Barry Rashotte, Camille Mageau and Jack Gallagher answered questions.

At 8:15 o'clock p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.


THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 2, 1995
(Meeting No. 48)

The Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans met at 9:15 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 308, West Block, the Chairman, Ron MacDonald, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Diane Ablonczy, Herb Dhaliwal, Ron MacDonald, Jean Payne, Derek Wells.

In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Alan Nixon, Research Officer.

Witnesses: From the Chamber of Maritime Commerce/Canadian Shipowner's Association: Jim Campbell, General Manager, Chamber of Maritime Commerce; Captain Réjean Lanteigne, Canadian Shipowner's Association. From the World Wildlife Fund: Cheri A. Recchia, Manager, Marine Protected Areas, Endangered Spaces Campaign. From the World Conservation Union (UICN): Tim Lash, Executive Director. From the Department of Fisheries and Oceans: Dr. L. Scott Parsons, Assistant Deputy Minister, Science; Mike Turner, Deputy Commissioner, Canadian Coast Guard.

Pursuant to an Order of Reference of the House dated October 3, 1995, the Committee resumed consideration of Bill C-98, An Act respecting the oceans of Canada (See Minutes of Proceedings dated Thursday, October 5, 1995, Issue No. 27).

Scott Parsons made an opening statement and with the other witness, answered questions.

At 10:05 o'clock a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 10:50 o'clock a.m., the sitting was resumed.

The witnesses made opening statements and answered questions.

At 12:25 o'clock a.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.


THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 2, 1995
(Meeting No. 49)

The Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans met at 3:40 o'clock p.m. this day, in Room 701, La Promenade, the Chairman, Ron MacDonald, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Herb Dhaliwal, Ron MacDonald, Jean Payne.

Acting Members present: Randy White for Mike Scott; Ron Fewchuk for Derek Wells.

In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Alan Nixon, Research Officer.

Witnesses: By Teleconference: FROM ST. JOHN'S, NEWFOUNDLAND: From the Management and Committee of Action: Environment: Shelley Bryant. From Newfoundland Shipowner's Association: Wayne Davis, Executive Director. From Newfoundland Oceans Industries Association: Frank Smith, President.

Pursuant to an Order of Reference of the House dated October 3, 1995, the Committee resumed consideration of Bill C-98, An Act respecting the oceans of Canada (See Minutes of Proceedings dated Thursday, October 5, 1995, Issue No. 27).

The witnesses made opening statements and answered questions.

At 5:05 o'clock p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.


THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 2, 1995
(Meeting No. 50)

The Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans met at 6:30 o'clock p.m. this day, in Room 701, La Promenade, the Chairman, Ron MacDonald, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Herb Dhaliwal, Ron MacDonald, Jean Payne.

Acting Member present: Jack Frazer for Mike Scott.

In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Alan Nixon, Research Officer.

Witnesses: By Teleconference: VANCOUVER, BRITISH COLUMBIA: From the Pacific Fishermen's Alliance: Philip Eidsvik. From the Canadian Ocean Frontiers Research Initiative: John Madden, Chairman; John Spence, Oceans Coordinator. From the Pacific Institute of Deep Sea Technology: Gerald Hamilton, Chairman. From the West Coast Environmental Law Association: Linda Nowlan, Staff Lawyer. From Greenpeace Canada: Catherine Stewart, Fisheries Campaigner. From the Department of Fisheries and Oceans: Don Kowal, Director, Resource Management Branch - Pacific, Arctic & Island Waters.

Pursuant to an Order of Reference of the House dated October 3, 1995, the Committee resumed consideration of Bill C-98, An Act respecting the oceans of Canada (See Minutes of Proceedings dated Thursday, October 5, 1995, Issue No. 27).

The witnesses made opening statements and answered questions.

Don Rowal answered questions.

At 8:45 o'clock p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.


TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 7, 1995
(Meeting No. 51)

The Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans met at 9:10 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 705, La Promenade, the Chairman, Ron MacDonald, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Yvan Bernier, Herb Dhaliwal, Ron MacDonald, Joe McGuire, Jean Payne, Mike Scott, Derek Wells.

In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Alan Nixon, Research Officer.

Witnesses: From the Department of Fisheries and Oceans: J.K. Thomas, Senior Assistant Deputy Minister and Commissioner, Canadian Coast Guard; Jack Gallagher, Strategic Planning Group, Canadian Coast Guard. From the Shipping Federation of Canada: Captain F.C. Nicol, President; Sonya Simard, Executive Assistant. From the Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society: Dr. N.J. Campbell, Executive Director; Dr. Lawrence Mysak, Member and Professor, Department of Atmospheric and Oceanic Science, McGill University.

Pursuant to an Order of Reference of the House dated October 3, 1995, the Committee resumed consideration of Bill C-98, An Act respecting the oceans of Canada (See Minutes of Proceedings dated Thursday, October 5, 1995, Issue No. 27).

The witnesses made opening statements and answered questions.

Sonya Simard and Jack Gallagher answered questions.

At 11:25 o'clock a.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

Eugene Morawski

Clerk of the Committee


WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 8, 1995
(Meeting No. 52)

The Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans met at 3:32 o'clock p.m. this day, in Room 701, La Promenade, the Chairman, Ron MacDonald, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Herb Dhaliwal, Ron MacDonald, Joe McGuire, Jean Payne, Mike Scott and Derek Wells.

Acting Member present: Jan Brown for Diane Ablonczy.

In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Alan Nixon, Research Officer.

Witnesses: From the Department of Human Resources Development Canada: Marcel Nouvet, Senior Director General, Human Resource Investment Branch; Paul Touesnard, Senior Policy Analyst, The Atlantic Groundfish Strategy.

In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 108(2), the Committe resumed consideration of the Atlantic Groundfish Strategy (TAGS) (See Minutes of Proceedings, dated April 21, 1994, Issue No. 11).

Marcel Nouvet made an opening statement and with the other witness answered questions.

At 4:51 o'clock p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

Roger Préfontaine

Committee Clerk


THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 9, 1995
(Meeting No. 53)

The Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans met at 9:10 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 536, Wellington Bldg., the Chairman, Ron MacDonald, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Diane Ablonczy, Herb Dhaliwal, Ron MacDonald, Joe McGuire, Jean Payne, Harry Verran and Derek Wells.

In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Alan Nixon, Research Officer.

Witnesses: From Inuit Tapirisat of Canada: Mary Sillett, Vice-President; Angela Stadel, Environment Researcher. From Nunavut Tunngavik Inc.: Paul Okalik, Advisor; Bruce Gillies, Environmental Coordinator; Laurie Pelly, Legal Counsel. From the Department of Fisheries and Oceans: Gerry Swanson, Director General, Habitat Management and Environmental Science; Mary Jean Comfort, Habitat Programs Biologist.

Pursuant to an Order of Reference of the House dated October 3, 1995, the Committee resumed consideration of Bill C-98, An Act respecting the oceans of Canada (See Minutes of Proceedings dated Thursday, October 5, 1995, Issue No. 27).

Mary Sillett made an opening statement and with the other witnesses answered questions.

Paul Okalik made an opening statement and with the other witnesses answered questions.

Departmental Officials answered questions.

It was agreed,--That Departmental Officials from the Department of Fisheries and Oceans and Indian Affairs and a representative from Nunavut Tunngavik Inc. be invited to appear on Tuesday, November 21, 1995.

At 10:35 o'clock a.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

Bill Farrell

Committee Clerk


MONDAY, NOVEMBER 20, 1995
(Meeting No. 54)

The Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans met at 3:35 o'clock p.m. this day, in Room 269, West Block, the Chairman, Ron MacDonald, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Yvan Bernier, Herb Dhaliwal, Ron MacDonald, Joe McGuire, Jean Payne, Mike Scott and Derek Wells.

In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Alan Nixon, Research Officer.

Appearing: The Honourable Brian Tobin, Minister of Fisheries and Oceans.

Witnesses: From the Department of Justice: Clare Beckton, General Counsel, Legal Services, Fisheries and Oceans. From the Department of Fisheries and Oceans: Mike Turner, Deputy Commissioner, Canadian Coast Guard.

Pursuant to an Order of Reference of the House dated October 3, 1995, the Committee resumed consideration of Bill C-98, An Act respecting the oceans of Canada (See Minutes of Proceedings dated Thursday, October 5, 1995, Issue No. 27).

The Minister made an opening statement and with the witnesses, answered questions.

At 5:10 o'clock p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.


TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 21, 1995
(Meeting No. 55)

The Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans met at 9:25 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 536, Wellington Bldg., the Chairman, Ron MacDonald, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Herb Dhaliwal, Ron MacDonald, Joe McGuire, Jean Payne, Mike Scott, Harry Verran and Derek Wells.

In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Alan Nixon, Research Officer.

Witnesses: From the Department of Fisheries and Oceans: Redmond Clarke, Director, Fisheries Management, Central and Arctic Region; Mary Jean Comfort, Senior Advisor, Oceans Act. From the Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development: Terry Henderson, Director General, Claims Implementation Branch; Mary Temple, Legal Counsel, Comprehensive Claims. From Nunavut Tunngavik Inc.: Bruce Gillies, Environmental Coordinator; Laurie Pelly, Legal Counsel; Paul Okalik, Advisor. From Nunavut Wildlife Management Board: Michael D'Eca, Barrister & Solicitor.

Pursuant to an Order of Reference of the House dated October 3, 1995, the Committee resumed consideration of Bill C-98, An Act respecting the oceans of Canada (See Minutes of Proceedings dated Thursday, October 5, 1995, Issue No. 27).

The witnesses made opening statements and answered questions.

It was agreed,--That pursuant to Standing Order 120, the Committee retains the services of Nancy Averell, as a consultant for the Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans study of Bill C-98, An Act respecting the oceans of Canada for the period of November 1 to December 15, 1995 at $85.57 per hour not exceeding $599.00 per day, plus $200.00 for miscellaneous fees for a total amount not exceeding $10,000.00.

At 11:15 o'clock a.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.


TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 28, 1995
(Meeting No. 56)
The Evidence for this meeting is not available because it was held in camera.

The Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans met in camera at 10:00 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 701, La Promenade, the Chairman, Ron MacDonald, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Herb Dhaliwal, Ron MacDonald, Joe McGuire, Jean Payne, Harry Verran, Derek Wells.

Acting Member present: Mike Scott for Jim Gouk.

In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Alan Nixon, Research Officer.

Pursuant to an Order of Reference of the House dated October 3, 1995, the Committee resumed consideration of Bill C-98, An Act respecting the oceans of Canada (See Minutes of Proceedings dated Thursday, October 5, 1995, Issue No. 27).

The Committee proceeded to a briefing session.

At 10:40 o'clock a.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.


TUESDAY, DECEMBER 5, 1995
(Meeting No. 57)

The Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans met at 9:52 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 269, West Block, the Chairman, Ron MacDonald, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Diane Ablonczy, Yvan Bernier, Herb Dhaliwal, Ron MacDonald, Joe McGuire, Jean Payne, Mike Scott, Harry Verran, Derek Wells.

In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Alan Nixon, Research Officer. From the Legislative Counsel Office: Philippe Ducharme, Legislative Counsel.

Witnesses: From the Department of Fisheries and Oceans: Dr. L. Scott Parsons, Assistant Deputy Minister, Science; Mike Turner, Deputy Commissioner, Canadian Coast Guard; Michelle Chartrand, Director General, Program Planning and Coordination; Camille Mageau, Senior Advisor, Oceans Programs Branch; Jack Gallagher, Strategic Planning Group, Canadian Coast Guard. From the Department of Justice: Allan Willis, Senior General Counsel, Constitutional and International Law Section; Hedy Kirkby, Legal Counsel. From Foreign Affairs and International Trade: Robert Rochon, Director General and Deputy Legal Advisor, Bureau of Legal Affairs.

Pursuant to an Order of Reference of the House dated October 3, 1995, the Committee resumed consideration of Bill C-98, An Act respecting the oceans of Canada (See Minutes of Proceedings dated Thursday, October 5, 1995, Issue No. 27).

The Committee proceeded to clause by clause study of Bill C-98, An Act respecting the oceans of Canada.

Pursuant to Standing Order 75(1) the Preamble and Clause 1 stood.

On Clause 2

The witnesses answered questions.

Clause 2 carried.

On new Clause 2.1

Herb Dhaliwal moved,--That new Clause 2.1 be added immediately after line 44, on page 2:

On Clause 3

Yvan Bernier moved,--That Clause 3 be amended by replacing line 2, on page 3, with the following:

After debate, the question being put on the amendment, it was negatived.

Clause 3 carried.

Clause 4 carried.

Clauses 5 to 9 carried severally.

On Clause 10

Herb Dhaliwal moved,--That Clause 10 be amended in the French version only, by striking out lines 27 and 28, on page 5, and substituting the following therefor:

The question being put on the amendment, it was agreed to.

Clause 10, as amended, carried.

On Clause 11

Herb Dhaliwal moved,--That Clause 11 be amended by striking out lines 35 to 38, on page 5, and substituting the following therefor:

After debate, Mike Scott moved,--That the amendment be amended by striking out the words ``, subject to Canada's international obligations,''.

After debate, the sub-amendment was, by unanimous consent, withdrawn.

The question being put on the amendment, it was agreed to.

Clause 11, as amended, carried.

On Clause 12

Herb Dhaliwal moved,--That Clause 12 be amended by striking out lines 39 to 45, on page 5, and substituting the following therefor:

After debate, the question being put on the amendment, it was agreed to.

Clause 12, as amended, carried.

Clause 13 carried.

On Clause 14

Herb Dhaliwal moved,--That Clause 14 be amended in the French version only,

(a) by striking out lines 22 to 24, on page 6, and substituting the following therefor:

(b) by striking out line 33, on page 6, and substituting the following therefor:

(c) by striking out line 38, on page 6, and substituting the following therefor:

The question being put on the amendment, it was agreed to.

Yvan Bernier moved,--That Clause 14 be amended

(a) by replacing line 28, on page 6, with the following:

(b) by adding after line 5, on page 7, the following:

After debate, the question being put on the amendment, it was negatived on the following recorded vote:

YEAS


Yvan Bernier--(1)

NAYS


Herb Dhaliwal
Mike Scott
Joe McGuire
Harry Verran
Jean Payne
Derek Wells--(6)

Clause 14, as amended, carried.

By unanimous consent, the Committee reverted to Clause 12, as amended.

After debate, Clause 12, as amended, carried.

On Clause 15

After debate Clause 15 carried.

Clause 16 carried.

On Clause 17

Herb Dhaliwal moved,--That Clause 17 be amended in the French version only,

(a) by striking out lines 14 and 15, on page 7, and substituting the following therefor:

(b) by striking out line 20, on page 7, and substituting the following therefor:

The question being put on the amendment, it was agreed to.

Clause 17, as amended, carried.

On Clause 18

Herb Dhaliwal moved,--That Clause 18 be amended in the French version only, by striking out lines 6 and 7, on page 8, and substituting the following therefor:

The question being put on the amendment, it was agreed to.

Herb Dhaliwal moved,--That Clause 18 be amended in the English version only, by striking out line 12, on page 8, and substituting the following therefor:

The question being put on the amendment, it was agreed to.

Clause 18, as amended, carried.

Clause 19 to 22 carried, severally.

On Clause 23

Derek Wells, moved,--That Clause 23 be amended by striking out line 17, on page 11, and substituting the following therefor:

The question being put on the amendment, it was agreed to.

Clause 23, as amended, carried.

On Clause 24

Herb Dhaliwal moved,--That Clause 24 be amended by striking out lines 34 to 38, at page 11.

The question being put on the amendment, it was agreed to.

Clause 24, as amended, carried.

On Clause 25

Herb Dhaliwal moved,--That Clause 25 be amended, in the French version only,

(a) by striking out lines 12 and 13, on page 12, and substituting the following therefor:

(b) by striking out line 23, on page 12, and substituting the following therefor:

(c) by striking out lines 29 and 30, on page 12, and substituting the following therefor:

The question being put on the amendment, it was agreed to.

Clause 25, as amended, carried.

Clause 26 carried.

On Clause 27

Mike Scott moved,--That Clause 27 be amended by striking out line 28, on page 14, and substituting the following therefor:

The question being put on the amendment, it was agreed to.

Clause 27, as amended, carried.

On Clause 29

Herb Dhaliwal moved,--That Clause 29 be amended by striking out lines 36 to 39, on page 14 and substituting the following therefor:

After debate Mike Scott moved,--That the amendment be amended by striking out the words ``aboriginal organizations'' and replacing them with ``affected municipalities and communities, including those of an Indian band or Inuit community''.

After debate, the sub-amendment stood.

After debate, the amendment stood.

Clause 29 stood.

On Clause 30

Harry Verran moved,--That Clause 30 be amended by adding immediately after line 13, on page 15, the following:

After debate, the amendment stood.

Clause 30 stood.

On Clause 31

Derek Wells moved,--That Clause 31 be amended by striking out lines 14 to 22, on page 15 and substituting the following therefor:

After debate, the amendment stood.

Clause 31 stood.

On Clause 32

Mike Scott moved,--That Clause 32 be amended by striking out lines 29 to 45, on page 15 and lines 1 to 5, on page 16 and substituting the following therefor:

After debate, the amendment stood.

Clause 32 stood.

On new Clause 32.1

Joe McGuire moved,--That new Clause 32.1 be added immediately after line 5, on page 16:

After debate, the questions being put on the amendment, it was agreed to, on division.

New Clause 32.1 carried on division.

On Clause 33

Clause 33 stood.

Clause 34 carried.

On Clause 35

At 1:00 oclock p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 3:40 oclock p.m., the sitting was resumed.

On Clause 35

Joe McGuire moved,--That Clause 35 be amended by striking out lines 35 to 44, on page 16 and lines 1 and 2, on page 17 and substituting the following:

The question being put on the amendment, it was agreed to.

Clause 35, as amended, carried.

On Clause 36

Herb Dhaliwal moved,--That Clause 36 be amended by striking out lines 3 to 7, on page 17 and substituting the following therefor:

The question being put on the amendment, it was agreed to.

Mike Scott moved,--That Clause 36, as amended, be further amended by striking out line 12, on page 17 and substituting the following:

The question being put on the amendment, it was negatived.

Clause 36, as amended, carried.

On Clause 37

Derek Wells moved,--That Clause 37 be amended by striking out line 18 to 29, on page 17 and substituting the following therefor:

The question being put on the amendment, it was agreed to.

Clause 37, as amended, carried.

Clause 38 carried.

On Clause 39

Jean Payne moved,--That Clause 39 be amended by striking out lines 41 to 45, on page 17 and lines 1 to 4, on page 18 and substituting the following therefor:

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The question being put on the amendment, it was agreed to.

Clause 39, as amended, carried.

On Clause 40

Jean Payne moved,--That Clause 40 be amended by striking out line 11, on page 18 and substituting the following therefor:

The question being put on the amendment, it was agreed to.

Clause 40, as amended, carried.

On Clause 41

Jean Payne moved,--That Clause 41 be amended by striking out lines 24 to 35, on page 18 and substituting the following:

After debate, the amendment was stood.

Mike Scott moved,--That Clause 41 be amended by striking out line 36 and 37, on page 18 and substituting the following:

After debate, the amendment was stood.

Clause 41 was stood.

On Clause 42

Jean Payne moved,--That Clause 42 be amended by striking out lines 12 to 14, on page 20 and substituting the following therefor:

After debate, Mike Scott moved,--That the amendment be amended by adding after the word knowledge the following:

The question being put on the amendment, it was negatived.

The questiong being put on the amendment, it was agreed to.

Clause 42, as amended, carried.

On Clause 43

Jean Payne moved,--That Clause 43 be amended by adding immediately after line 39 on page 20 the following:

Clause 43, as amended, carried.

Clause 44 carried.

On Clause 45

Jean Payne moved,--That Clause 45 be amended by striking out lines 14 to 19, on page 21, and substituting the following therefor:

The question being put on the amendment, it was agreed to.

Clause 45, as amended, carried.

Clauses 46 and 47 were negatived.

Clause 48 carried.

On Clause 49

Mike Scott moved,--That Clause 49 be amended by striking out lines 5 to 9, on page 22 and substituting the following therefor:

After debate, the question being put on the amendment, it was negatived on the following recorded vote:

YEAS

Mike Scott--(1)

NAYS

Yvan Bernier
Jean Payne Herb Dhaliwal
Harry Verran--(5) Joe McGuire

After debate Clause 49 carried, on division.

Clauses 50 to 53 carried severally.

On new Clause 53.1

Mike Scott moved,--That new clause 53.1 be added immediately after line 3, on page 23:

The question being put on the amendment, it was agreed to.

Clauses 54 to 73 carried severally.

On Clause 74

Herb Dhaliwal moved,--That Clause 74, be amended in the French version only, by striking out lines 2 and 3, on page 31, and substituting the following therefor:

The question being put on the amendment, it was agreed to.

Clause 74, as amended, carried.

Clauses 75 to 87 carried severally.

On Clause 88

Herb Dhaliwal moved,--That Clause 88 be amended

(a) by striking out lines 13 to 15, on page 34, and substituting the following therefor:

(b) by striking out lines 34 and 35, at page 34, and substituting the following therefor:

The question being put on the amendment, it was agreed to.

Clause 88, as amended, carried.

Clauses 89 to 102, carried.

On new Clause 102.1

Herb Dhaliwal moved,--That new Clause 102.1 be added immediately after line 17 on page 39:

Clauses 103 to 109 carried severally.

By unanimous consent, the Committee reverted to Clause 29.

By unanimous consent, the sub-amendment was withdrawn.

By unanimous consent, the amendment was withdrawn.

Mike Scott moved,--That Clause 29 be amended by striking out lines 36 to 39, on page 14 and substituting the following:

Clause 29, as amended, carried on division.

By unanimous consent, the Committee reverted to Clause 30.

By unanimous consent, the amendment was withdrawn.

Harry Verran moved,--That Clause 30 be amended by adding immediately after line 13, on page 15 the following:

After debate, the question being put on the amendment, it was agreed to, on division.

Clause 30, as amended, carried on division.

By unanimous consent, the Committee reverted to Clause 31.

By unanimous consent, the amendment was withdrawn.

Derek Wells moved,--That Clause 31 be amended by striking out lines 14 to 17, on page 15 and substituting the following:

After debate, the amendment was agreed to, on division.

Clause 31, as amended, carried, on division.

By unanimous consent, the Committee reverted to Clause 32.

By unanimous consent, the amendment was withdrawn.

Mike Scott moved,--That Clause 32 be amended by striking out lines 23 to 45, on page 15 and line 1, on page 16 and substituting the following therefor:

The question being put on the amendment, it was agreed to.

Clause 32, as amended, carried.

By unanimous consent, the Committee reverted to Clause 33.

Mike Scott moved,--That Clause 33 be amended by striking out lines 8 to 20, on page 16 and substituting the following:

By striking out lines 27 to 30, on page 16, and substituting the following therefor:

The question being put on the amendment, it was agreed to.

Clause 33, as amended, carried.

By unanimous consent, the Committee reverted to Clause 41.

By unanimous consent the sub-amendment was withdrawn.

By unanimous consent, the amendment was withdrawn.

At 5:25 o'clock p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 6:00 o'clock p.m., the sitting was resumed.

Jean Payne moved,--That Clause 41 be amended by striking out lines 24 to 38, on page 18 and lines 1 to 17, on page 19 and substituting the following:

The questions being put on the amendment, it was agreed to.

Clause 41, as amended, carried.

On the Preamble

Herb Dhaliwal moved,--That the Preamble be amended, in the French version only, by striking out line 13, on page 1, and substituting the following therefor:

The question being put on the amendment, it was agreed to.

Herb Dhaliwal moved,--That the Preamble, as amended, be further amended by adding immediately after line 15, on page 1, the following:

The question being put on the amendment, it was agreed to.

The Preamble, as amended, carried.

Clause 1 carried.

The Title carried.

The Bill, as amended, carried.

Ordered,--That the Bill, as amended, be reprinted for use of the House at report stage.

Ordered,--That the Chairman report the Bill, as amended, to the House.

At 6:23 o'clock p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

Eugene Morawski

Clerk of the Committee


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