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Minutes of Proceedings

44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 54
Tuesday, May 31, 2022, 4:38 p.m. to 5:33 p.m.
Televised
Presiding
Peter Fonseca, Chair (Liberal)

House of Commons
• Jacques Maziade, Legislative Clerk
• Tina Miller, Procedural Clerk
• Émilie Thivierge, Legislative Clerk
 
Library of Parliament
• Sylvain Fleury, Analyst
• Michaël Lambert-Racine, Analyst
The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

It was agreed, — That, in relation to the study of Pre-Budget Consultations in Advance of the 2023 Budget, the proposed budget in the amount of $ 140,209.35, for the committee’s travels to Whitehorse, YT/ Victoria, BC/ Edmonton, AB/ Winnipeg, MB and Regina, SK in Fall 2022, be adopted.

It was agreed, — That, in relation to the study of Pre-Budget Consultations in Advance of the 2023 Budget, the proposed budget in the amount of $ 134,919.05, for the committee’s travels to Fredericton, NB/ Halifax, NS/ Québec, QC/ Charlottetown, PE and Toronto, ON in Fall 2022, be adopted.

Canada Border Services Agency
• Doug Band, Director General, Trade and Anti-dumping Programs Directorate
• Fred Gaspar, Vice-President, Commercial and Trade Branch
• Alexander Lawton, Executive Director, Trade Compliance Division
Canada Revenue Agency
• Robert Greene, Director General, Assessment, Benefit and Service Branch, Individual Returns Directorate
• Guy Lafrance, Director General, Collections Directorate, Collections and Verification Branch
Correctional Service of Canada
• Luc Bisson, Director General, Strategic Policy and Planning
• Chad Westmacott, Director General, Community Safety, Corrections and Criminal Justice Directorate, Crime Prevention Branch
Department of Citizenship and Immigration
• Julie Chassé, Director General, Financial Strategy
• Jonathan Joshi-Koop, Acting Director, Express Entry Policy
• Marcel Poirier, Director, Fees and Activity Based Costing Division
• Philip Somogyvari, Director General, Strategic Policy and Planning
Department of Employment and Social Development
• Annik Casey, Director General, Employment Insurance Benefits Processing, Benefits and Integrated Services Branch
• Steven Coté, Executive Director, Employment Insurance, Skills and Employment Branch
• Rouba Dabboussy, Director General, Benefits and Integrated Services Branch
• Saajida Deen, Director General, Employment Program Policy and Design, Skills and Employment Branch
• Deanne Field, Executive Director, Employment Insurance Benefits Processing, Benefits and Integrated Services Branch
• Cliff C. Groen, Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Benefits and Integrated Services Branch, Service Canada
• Neal Leblanc, Acting Director, Canada Pension Plan Policy and legislation
• Matthew Lye, Senior Policy Analyst, Canada Pension Plan Disbility Directorate
• Anamika Mona Nandy, Acting Director General, Employment Insurance Policy, Skills and Employment Branch
• Lorraine Pelot, Director General, Canada Pension Plan Disability, Income Security and Social Development Branch
• Zia Proulx, Director General, Strategic Policy, Analysis and Workplace Information Directorate, Labour Program
• George Rae, Acting Executive Director, Employment Insurance Policy, Skills and Employment Branch
• Fariya Syed, Director, Employment Program Policy and Design, Skills and Employment Branch
• Kristen Underwood, Director General, Seniors and Pensions Policy Secretariat
• Kevin Wagdin, Director, Old Age Security Policy and Legislation
• Douglas Wolfe, Senior Director, Strategic Policy and Legislative Reform, Strategic Policy, Analysis and Workplace Information Directorate, Labour Program
Department of Finance
• Carlos Achadinha, Senior Director, Public Sector Bodies
• Brent Almond, Director, Indigenous Taxation Policy
• Shane Baddeley, Director, Economic Development
• Stefania Bartucci, Senior Project Leader, Financial Institutions Division, Financial Sector Policy Branch
• Maximilian Baylor, Senior Director, Saving and Investment Section, Business Income Tax Division, Tax Policy Branch
• Marie-Hélène Cantin, Senior Economist, International Trade Policy Division, International Trade and Finance
• Gervais Coulombe, Senior Director, Excise Taxation and Legislation, Sales Tax Division, Tax Policy Branch
• Galen Countryman, Director General, Federal-Provincial Relations and Social Policy Branch
• Darren D'Sa, Advisor, Tax Policy
• Manuel Dussault, Senior Director, Framework Policy, Financial Institutions Division, Financial Sector Policy Branch
• Jean-François Girard, Senior Director, Markets Policy, Financial Stability and Capital Market
• Jack Glick, Senior Advisor, Sales Tax Division
• Michelle Gouchie, Director, Federal-Provincial Taxation
• Lindsay Gwyer, Director General, Legislation, Tax Legislation Division, Tax Policy Branch
• Émilie Horrocks-Denis, Senior Policy Analyst, Intergovernmental Tax Policy, Evaluation and Research
• Robert Ives, Senior Advisor, Sales Tax Division, Tax Policy Branch
• Phil King, Director General, Sales Tax Division, Tax Policy Branch
• Blaine Langdon, Director, Charities, Personal Income Tax Division, Tax Policy Branch
• Tracy Laufer, Senior Advisor, Financial Institutions Division
• Pierre Leblanc, Director General, Personal Income Tax Division, Tax Policy Branch
• Mark Maxson, Director, Employment and Education, Personal Income Tax Division, Tax Policy Branch
• Trevor McGowan, Director General, Tax Legislation Division, Tax Policy Branch
• Pierre Mercille, Director General, Sales Tax Legislation, Sales Tax Division, Tax Policy Branch
• Nicolas Moreau, Director General, Funds Management Division, Financial Sector Policy Branch
• Amanda Riddell, Director, Real Property and Financial Institutions, Sales Tax Division, Tax Policy Branch
• Jenna Robbins, Senior Director, Strategic Planning and Policy, Business Income Tax Division, Tax Policy Branch
• Oliver Rogerson, Director, Resources, Environment and Special Projects, Business Income Tax Division, Tax Policy Branch
• Barbara Russell, Director, Financial Institutions Division
• Robert Sample, Director General, Financial Stability and Capital Markets Division, Financial Sector Policy Branch
• Gregory Smart, Expert Advisor, Sales Tax Division, Tax Policy Branch
• Lesley Taylor, Senior Director, Social Tax Policy
• David Turner, Senior Advisor, Sales Tax Division
• Roch Vézina, Senior Tax Policy Analyst, Indigenous Taxation Policy
• Ling Wang, Senior Director, Financial Programs and Strategy, Financial Services Division, Financial Sector Policy Branch
• Scott Winter, Senior Director, Trade Rules, International Trade Policy Division, International Trade and Finance Branch
• Kathleen Wrye, Director, Pensions Policy
• James Wu, Senior Director, Debt Management, Funds Management Division, Financial Sector Policy Branch
Department of Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development
• Matina Karvellas, Deputy Executive Director and General Counsel, Legal Services
• Lynn McDonald, Director General, International Economic Policy
Department of Indigenous Services
• Curtis Bergeron, Acting Director, Regional Operations, Indigenous Services
• Rebecca Blake, Manager, Regional Operations
• Douglas Fairbairn, Senior Counsel, Crown-Indigenous Relations and Northern Affairs
Department of Industry
• Patrick Blanar, Director, Copywright and Trademark Policy Directorate
• Erin Campbell, Director, Marketplace Framework Policy Branch, Patent Policy Directorate
• Ian Disend, Expert Advisor, Policy, Research and Analysis
• Shazmin Kanji, Senior Director, International Affairs
• Jennifer Miller, Director General, Marketplace Framework Policy Branch
• Martin Simard, Senior Director, Corporate, Insolvency and Competition Policy, Marketplace Framework Policy Branch
• Jason Wood, Executive Director, Space Exploration Policy
Department of Justice
• Erin Cassidy, Counsel, Criminal Law Policy Section
• Anna Dekker, Acting Director and General Counsel, Judicial Affairs Section
• Nathalie Hébert, Manager and Senior Counsel, Criminal Law Policy Section
• Melissa Moor, Counsel, Judicial Affairs Section, Public Law and Legislative Services Sector
• Lee-Yong Tan, Legal Counsel, Legal Services
Office of the Superintendent of Financial Institutions
• Stéphane Fournier, Senior Manager, Legislative Policy, Interpretations and Compliance Unit, Regulatory Affairs Division
• Joanne Lucas, Manager, Legislative Policy, Interpretations and Compliance, Regulatory Affairs Division
Privy Council Office
• Timothea Gibb, Director of Operations, Legislation and House Planning
Treasury Board Secretariat
• Lucas Cherkewski, Policy Analyst
• Leanne Labelle, Head of Plaftorm Growth
• John Millons, Director of Policy
Pursuant to the order of reference of Tuesday, May 10, 2022, the committee resumed consideration of Bill C-19, An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on April 7, 2022, and other measures.

The committee resumed its clause-by-clause study of the Bill.

The committee resumed clause-by-clause consideration on Clause 377 of the Bill.

Daniel Blaikie moved, — That Bill C-19, in Clause 377, be amended

(a) by replacing line 7 on page 371 with the following:

“(h.1) subject to subsection (1.01), the establishment of categories of eligible for-”

(b) by adding after line 32 on page 371 the following:

“(1.01) An instruction given under paragraph (1)(h.1) must not establish a category in respect of which a public consultation process referred to in subsection 10.5(1) has not been given the opportunity to provide advice and recommendations.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Daniel Blaikie and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Dan Albas, Yvan Baker, Terry Beech, Daniel Blaikie, Adam Chambers, Sophie Chatel, Philip Lawrence, Heath MacDonald, Francesco Sorbara, Gabriel Ste-Marie, Jake Stewart — 11;

NAYS: — 0.

Clause 377, as amended, carried on division.

On new Clause 377.1,

Daniel Blaikie moved, — That Bill C-19 be amended by adding after line 2 on page 372 the following new clause:

“377.1 The Act is amended by adding the following after section 10.4:

10.5(1) For the purpose of establishing categories of eligible foreign nationals under sub-paragraph 10.3(1)(h.1)(iii), the Minister must engage in a public consultation process with stakeholders, including provinces and territories, industry, unions, employers, workers, worker advocacy groups, settlement provider organizations and immigration researchers and practitioners, to obtain information, advice and recommendations in respect of the labour market conditions, including occupations expected to face shortage conditions, as well as on how categories can be formed to meet economic goals.

(2) The advice and recommendations from the public consultation process must be based on written submissions provided by relevant industry members and stakeholders.

(3) The Minister shall cause to be tabled before each House of Parliament, not later than the fifth sitting day of that House after January 31 following the end of each fiscal year, a report containing the list of the categories of eligible foreign nationals established in an instruction made under paragraph 10.3(1)(h.1) and the selection criteria and the process applied for the establishment of those categories.

(4) After it is tabled, the report stands referred to the committee of the Senate, the House of Commons or both Houses of Parliament that may be designated or established for the purpose of reviewing the report.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Daniel Blaikie and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Dan Albas, Yvan Baker, Terry Beech, Daniel Blaikie, Adam Chambers, Sophie Chatel, Philip Lawrence, Heath MacDonald, Francesco Sorbara, Gabriel Ste-Marie, Jake Stewart — 11;

NAYS: — 0.

Clause 378 carried on division.

At 5:03 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 5:07 p.m., the sitting resumed.

Clause 379 was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Yvan Baker, Terry Beech, Sophie Chatel, Heath MacDonald, Francesco Sorbara — 5;

NAYS: Dan Albas, Daniel Blaikie, Adam Chambers, Philip Lawrence, Gabriel Ste-Marie, Jake Stewart — 6.

Clause 380 carried on division.

Clause 381 was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Yvan Baker, Terry Beech, Sophie Chatel, Heath MacDonald, Francesco Sorbara — 5;

NAYS: Dan Albas, Daniel Blaikie, Adam Chambers, Philip Lawrence, Gabriel Ste-Marie, Jake Stewart — 6.

By unanimous consent, Clauses 382 to 453 inclusive carried on division severally.

After debate, by unanimous consent, Clauses 454 to 502 inclusive were negatived severally.

Clause 1, Short Title, carried on division.

Schedule 1 carried on division.

Schedule 2 carried on division.

Schedule 3 carried on division.

The Title carried on division.

The Bill, as amended, was adopted on division.

ORDERED, — That the Chair report the Bill, as amended, to the House on division.

ORDERED, — That Bill C-19, as amended, be reprinted for the use of the House of Commons at report stage.

At 5:03 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 5:06 p.m., the sitting resumed.

At 5:33 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Alexandre Roger
Clerk of the committee