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MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS

Meeting No. 50

Wednesday, November 25, 2009

The Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights met at 3:34 p.m. this day, in Room 209, West Block, the Chair, Ed Fast, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Joe Comartin, Ed Fast, Hon. Marlene Jennings, Hon. Dominic LeBlanc, Marc Lemay, Rob Moore, Brian Murphy, Daniel Petit, Brent Rathgeber and Stephen Woodworth.

Acting Members present: Bernard Bigras for Marc Lemay, Yves Lessard for Serge Ménard, Joe Preston for Rick Norlock, Francis Scarpaleggia for Brian Murphy and Brian Storseth for Daniel Petit.

Associate Members present: Larry Miller.

In attendance: Library of Parliament: Robin MacKay, Analyst ; Dominique Valiquet, Analyst ; Cynthia Kirkby, Analyst.

Witnesses: Insurance Bureau of Canada: Richard Dubin, Vice-President, Investigative Services; Dennis Prouse, Director, Federal Government Relations. National Pensioners and Senior Citizens Federation: Arthur Kube, President, Head Office; Jim Hayes, Legislative Director, National Office. Canadian Justice Review Board: William Nichol, Chief Executive Officer. Association québécoise des avocats et avocates de la défense: Lucie Joncas, President. As an individual: Simon Roy, Lawyer and Criminal Law Professor, University of Sherbrooke, Faculty of Law, with joint responsibility for the Financial Crimes Prevention Program.

Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2) and the motion adopted by the Committee on Wednesday, November 25, 2009, the Committee resumed its study of the matter concerning a request for documents pertaining to Bill C-36, An Act to amend the Criminal Code.

Debate resumed on Joe Comartin's question of privilege raised on Monday, November 23, 2009.

RULING BY THE CHAIR

The Chair ruled that this matter did not relate to a question of privilege as the Committee had not determined whether withholding of information by the Minister was an intentional act to interfere or obstruct.

Whereupon, Joe Comartin appealed the decision of the Chair.

The question: "Shall the decision of the Chair be sustained?" was put and the decision was overturned on the following recorded division: YEAS: Rob Moore, Joe Preston, Brent Rathgeber, Brian Storseth, Stephen Woodworth — 5; NAYS: Joe Comartin, Marlene Jennings, Dominic LeBlanc, Marc Lemay, Yves Lessard, Francis Scarpaleggia — 6.

The question: "That the Committee present a report to the House relating to the matter concerning a request for documents pertaining to Bill C-36, An Act to amend the Criminal Code" was put and was agreed to on the following recorded division: YEAS: Joe Comartin, Marlene Jennings, Dominic LeBlanc, Marc Lemay, Yves Lessard, Francis Scarpaleggia — 6; NAYS: Rob Moore, Joe Preston, Brent Rathgeber, Brian Storseth, Stephen Woodworth — 5.

ORDERED, — That the Chair present the report to the House.

On motion of Marc Lemay, it was agreed, — That the Committee adjourn at 5:30 p.m.

Pursuant to the Order of Reference of Monday, October 26, 2009, the Committee resumed consideration of Bill C-52, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (sentencing for fraud).

Lucie Joncas made a statement and answered questions.

Richard Dubin, Arthur Kube, William Nichol and Simon Roy made statements and, with Dennis Prouse, answered questions.

At 5:31 p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

Miriam Burke
Clerk of the Committee

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