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MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS
 
Meeting No. 30
 
Thursday, December 7, 2006
 

The Standing Committee on Transport, Infrastructure and Communities met at 3:46 p.m. this day, in Room 209, West Block, the Chair, Merv Tweed, presiding.

 

Members of the Committee present: Don H. Bell, Robert Carrier, Ed Fast, Hon. Charles Hubbard, Brian Jean, Peter Julian, Mario Laframboise, David J. McGuinty, Brian Storseth, Merv Tweed and Jeff Watson.

 

Acting Members present: Ken Boshcoff for Hon. Andy Scott.

 

In attendance: Library of Parliament: Allison Padova, Analyst.

 

Witnesses: Department of Transport: Helena Borges, Director General, Surface Transportation Policy; Alain Langlois, Legal Counsel, Legal Services.

 
Pursuant to the Order of Reference of Thursday, September 21, 2006, the Committee resumed consideration of Bill C-11, An Act to amend the Canada Transportation Act and the Railway Safety Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts.
 

The Committee resumed its clause-by-clause study of the Bill.

 

On Clause 13,

 
The Committee resumed consideration of the amendment of David J. McGuinty, — That Bill C-11, in Clause 13, be amended by adding after line 4 on page 8 the following:

“(2.1) The guidelines referred to in subsection (2) shall be made public and shall specify the criteria that are to be applied by the Minister in making a decision under subsection (4) or (5). Those criteria must be different from the criteria that are applicable to any assessment that is performed under the Competition Act or any other Act of Parliament.”

The debate continued.

 

The question was put on the amendment of David J. McGuinty and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 4; NAYS: 6.

 
Brian Jean moved, — That Bill C-11, in Clause 13, be amended

(a) by replacing line 1 on page 8 with the following:

“shall be issued and published by the Minister. After receipt of a”

(b) by adding after line 4 on page 8 the following:

“(2.1) The guidelines referred to in subsection (2) shall include factors that may be considered to determine whether a proposed transaction raises issues with respect to the public interest as it relates to national transportation.”

Debate arose thereon.

 

Mario Laframboise moved, — That the amendment be amended by adding the words “shall be elaborated in consultation with the Competition Bureau and” after the words “in subsection (2)”

Debate arose thereon.

 

After debate, the question was put on the subamendment of Mario Laframboise and it was agreed to.

 

The question was put on the amendment of Brian Jean, as amended, and it was agreed to.

 

Clause 13, as amended, carried.

 

Clause 30 carried.

 

Clause 31 carried.

 

Clause 32 carried.

 

Clause 33 carried.

 

Clause 34 carried.

 

Clause 35 carried.

 

Clause 36 carried.

 

Clause 37 carried.

 

Clause 38 carried.

 

On Clause 39,

Peter Julian moved, — That Bill C-11, in Clause 39, be amended by replacing line 40 on page 23 with the following:

“the governments, urban transit authorities and community organizations”

Debate arose thereon.

 

The question was put on the amendment of Peter Julian and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 1; NAYS: 10.

 

The Chair ruled that the following five (5) amendments were consequential to the previous amendment and therefore they were also negatived:

That Bill C-11, in Clause 39, be amended by adding after line 27 on page 24 the following:

“(e) to the head of any community organization that has informed the railway company that it wishes to receive an offer under this section.”

That Bill C-11, in Clause 39, be amended by adding after line 6 on page 25 the following:

“(d) by a community organization, it may accept it within an additional 30 days after the end of the period or periods for acceptance under paragraphs (a), (b), (b.1) and (c), if it is not accepted under those paragraphs.”

That Bill C-11, in Clause 39, be amended by replacing, in the English version, lines 9 to 16 on page 25 with the following:

“(4) Once a government, an urban transit authority or a community organization communicates its written acceptance of the offer to the railway company, the right of any other government, urban transit authority or community organization to accept the offer is extinguished, and the railway company must notify the other governments, urban transit authorities and community organizations of the acceptance.”

That Bill C-11, in Clause 39, be amended

(a) by replacing, in the English version, lines 17 and 18 on page 25 with the following:

“(5) If a government, urban transit authority or community organization accepts the offer, but cannot agree”

(b) by replacing, in the English version, line 22 on page 25 with the following:

“ment, urban transit authority, community organization or the railway”

That Bill C-11, in Clause 39, be amended by adding after line 23 on page 25 the following:

“(6) In this section, “community organization” means a not-for-profit organization serving a community through which a railway line passes and established for the specific purpose of acquiring the property on which the railway line is situated in order to develop the property for use as a bicycle path or linear park.”

 
Mario Laframboise moved, — That Bill C-11, in Clause 39, be amended

(a) by replacing lines 40 and 41 on page 23 with the following:

“the governments, transit agencies or similar bodies mentioned in this section for not more than its”

(b) by replacing lines 21 and 22 on page 24 with the following:

“(c) to the chairperson of every transit agency or similar body through whose territory the railway”

(c) by replacing line 37 on page 24 with the following:

“(b.1) by a transit agency or similar body, it may”

Debate arose thereon.

 

By unanimous consent, the amendment was allowed to stand.

 

By unanimous consent, Clause 39 was allowed to stand.

 

Clause 40 carried.

 

Clause 41 carried.

 

On Clause 42,

Mario Laframboise moved, — That Bill C-11, in Clause 42, be amended by replacing lines 21 and 22 on page 26 with the following:

“that it plans to dismantle, except for sidings and spurs”

Debate arose thereon.

 

By unanimous consent, the amendment was allowed to stand.

 

By unanimous consent, Clause 42 was allowed to stand.

 

Clause 43 carried.

 

Clause 44 carried.

 

Clause 45 carried.

 

Clause 46 carried.

 

On Clause 47,

 
On motion of Brian Jean, it was agreed, — That Bill C-11, in Clause 47, be amended by replacing lines 11 to 15 on page 32 with the following:

“provincial authority to regulate the construction, operation and safety of a railway as well as the rates and conditions of service in the same manner and to the same extent as it may regulate a railway within its jurisdiction.”

 

Clause 47, as amended, carried.

 

On new Clause 47.1,

Brian Jean moved, — That Bill C-11 be amended by adding after line 15 on page 32 the following new clause:

47.1 Section 160 of the Act is replaced by the following:

160. Sections 161 to 169 also apply, with any modifications that the circumstances require, in respect of the rates charged or proposed to be charged by, and in respect of any of the conditions associated with the provision of services by, a railway company to any other railway company that is engaged in passenger rail services, other than a public passenger service provider as defined in section 87.”

 

RULING BY THE CHAIR

The amendment seeks to amend section 160 of the Canada Transportation Act.

House of Commons Procedure and Practice states at page 654:

“… an amendment is inadmissible if it amends a statute that is not before the committee or a section of the parent Act unless it is specifically being amended by a clause of the bill.”

Since section 160 of the Canada Transportation Act is not being amended by Bill C-11, it is inadmissible to propose such an amendment. Therefore, the amendment is inadmissible.

 
David J. McGuinty moved, — That Bill C-11 be amended by adding after line 15 on page 32 the following new clause:

“47.1 The Act is amended by adding the following after section 169:

169.1 (1) Sections 161 to 169 apply, with any modifications that the circumstances require, in the case where more than one shipper is dissatisfied with any charge or rate charged or proposed to be charged by a carrier for the movement of goods or for any incidental services, or with any term or condition associated with the movement of goods or any incidental services.

(2) The matter submitted to the Agency for a final offer arbitration must be common to all the shippers, they must make a joint offer in respect of the matter and the terms of that offer must apply to all of them equally.

(3) In the case of a matter that is submitted to the Agency by more than one shipper, the period referred to in subsection 161.1(1) shall be 20 days.

(4) In the case of a matter that is submitted to the Agency by more than one shipper, the arbitrator may, if he or she considers it necessary, extend any of the periods referred to in subsections 163(3) and (4) and paragraph 164.1(a).

(5) Despite paragraph 165(2)(b), in the case of a matter that is submitted to the Agency by more than one shipper, the decision of the arbitrator shall, unless the parties agree otherwise, be rendered within 120 days or, in the case of an arbitration conducted in accordance with section 164.1, 90 days after the day on which the submission for the final offer arbitration was received by the Agency.

169.2 (1) Sections 161 to 169 apply, with any modifications that the circumstances require, in the case of a person or a group of persons, other than shippers or carriers, who is or are subject to a charge or rate charged or proposed to be charged by a carrier for the movement of goods or for any incidental services, or to any term or condition associated with the movement of goods or any incidental services.

(2) In the case of a group of persons referred to in subsection (1), the matter submitted to the Agency for a final offer arbitration must be common to all of them, the group must make a joint offer in respect of the matter and the terms of that offer must apply to all members of the group equally.

(3) In the case of a matter submitted to the Agency by a group of persons referred to in subsection (1), the period referred to in subsection 161.1(1) shall be 20 days.

(4) In the case of a matter that is submitted to the Agency by a group of persons referred to in subsection (1), the arbitrator may, if he or she considers it necessary, extend any of the periods referred to in subsections 163(3) and (4) and paragraph 164.1(a).

(5) Despite paragraph 165(2)(b), in the case of a matter that is submitted to the Agency by a group of persons referred to in subsection (1), the decision of the arbitrator shall, unless the parties agree otherwise, be rendered within 120 days or, in the case of an arbitration conducted in accordance with section 164.1, 90 days after the day on which the submission for the final offer arbitration was received by the Agency.

169.3 (1) The parties to a final offer arbitration may, by agreement, refer to a mediator, which may be the Agency, a matter that has been submitted for a final offer arbitration.

(2) All matters relating to the mediation shall be kept confidential, unless the parties otherwise agree, and information provided by a party for the purposes of the mediation shall not be used for any other purpose without the consent of that party.

(3) Unless the parties otherwise agree, the mediation shall be completed within 30 days after the matter is referred for mediation.

(4) The mediation has the effect of

(a) staying the conduct of the final offer arbitration for the period of the mediation; and

(b) extending the time within which the arbitrator must make a decision in the matter of the final offer arbitration by the period of the mediation.”

 

RULING BY THE CHAIR

Bill C-11 creates, among other things, a new mediation process for transportation matters. This amendment proposes a new Clause which would create a separate scheme for multiple shippers within the Final Offer Arbitration process. Bill C-11 does not address any issues relating to the Final Offer Arbitration process.

As House of Commons Procedure and Practice states on page 654:

“An amendment to a bill that was referred to committee after second reading is out of order if it is beyond the scope and principle of the bill.”

In the opinion of the Chair, the introduction of a new scheme for shippers within the Final Offer Arbitration process is a new concept that is beyond the scope of Bill C-11 and is therefore inadmissible.

 

Clause 48 carried.

 

By unanimous consent, Clause 49 was allowed to stand.

 

Clause 50 carried.

 

Clause 51 carried.

 

On Clause 52,

Brian Jean moved, — That Bill C-11, in Clause 52, be amended by replacing, in the French version, lines 9 and 10 on page 34 with the following:

“verbal paie la somme requise dans les délais et selon les modalités qui y sont prévues, le ministre”

 

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Brian Jean and it was agreed to.

 
On motion of Brian Jean, it was agreed, — That Bill C-11, in Clause 52, be amended by replacing lines 5 to 8 on page 35 with the following:

180.4 If a person neither pays the amount of the penalty in accordance with the particulars set out in the notice of violation nor files a request for a review under subsection 180.3(1),”

 

Clause 52, as amended, carried.

 

Clause 53 carried.

 

Clause 54 carried.

 

Clause 55 carried.

 

Clause 56 carried.

 

Clause 57 carried.

 

Clause 58 carried.

 

Clause 59 carried.

 

Clause 60 carried.

 

Clause 61 carried.

 

Clause 62 carried.

 

Clause 63 carried.

 
Mario Laframboise moved, — That Bill C-11, in Clause 64, be amended by replacing lines 30 to 32 on page 42 with the following:

“section 63, come into force 90 days after the day on which it receives royal assent.”

Debate arose thereon.

 

By unanimous consent, the amendment was withdrawn.

 

Clause 64 was negatived by a show of hands: YEAS: 2; NAYS: 7.

 

On Clause 17,

 
The Committee resumed consideration of the amendment of Peter Julian, — That Bill C-11, in Clause 17, be amended by replacing line 11 on page 13 with the following:

“is seasonal in nature in a community with a population of less than 10,000 for eight months or less in a”

 

By unanimous consent, the amendment was withdrawn.

 
On motion of Don H. Bell, it was agreed, — That Bill C-11, in Clause 17, be amended by deleting lines 7 to 12 on page 13.

 

Clause 17, as amended, carried.

 

At 5:37 p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

 



Mark D'Amore
Clerk of the Committee

 
 
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