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MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS
 
Meeting No. 41
 
Wednesday, February 21, 2007
 

The Standing Committee on Public Accounts met at 3:31 p.m. this day, in Room 269, West Block, the Chair, the Hon. Shawn Murphy, presiding.

 

Members of the Committee present: Paule Brunelle, David Christopherson, Brian Fitzpatrick, Hon. Shawn Murphy, Pierre Poilievre, Pablo Rodriguez, Hon. Judy Sgro, David Sweet, John Williams and Borys Wrzesnewskyj.

 

Acting Members present: Richard Nadeau for Jean-Yves Laforest.

 

In attendance: House of Commons: Graeme Truelove, Committee Clerk. Library of Parliament: Brian O'Neal, Analyst; Alex Smith, Analyst.

 

Witnesses: Office of the Auditor General of Canada: Hugh McRoberts, Assistant Auditor General; Gordon Stock, Principal. Royal Canadian Mounted Police: Beverley Busson, Commissioner; Barbara George, Deputy Commissioner, Human Resources; Paul Gauvin, Deputy Commissioner, Corporate Management and Comptrollership; Brian Aiken, Chief Audit Executive. Ottawa Police Service: Vince Bevan, Chief; Vince Westwick, Consellor. Treasury Board Secretariat: Phil Charko, Assistant Secretary, Pensions and Benefits Sector.

 
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(g), the Committee commenced consideration of Chapter 9, Pension and Insurance Administration - Royal Canadian Mounted Police of the November 2006 Report of the Auditor General of Canada.
 

Hugh McRoberts made an opening statement and answered questions.

 

Beverley Busson made an opening statement and, with Barbara George, answered questions.

 

Vince Bevan made an opening statement and answered questions.

 

Phil Charko and Brian Aiken answered questions.

 
The Committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to Committee business.
 

On motion of Judy Sgro, it was agreed, — That the Ninth Report of the Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure of the Standing Committee on Public Accounts be concurred in, wich reads as follows:

Your Subcommittee met on Monday, February 19, 2007, to consider the business of the Committee and agreed to make the following recommendations:

1. That, following the tabling of the Auditor General's Status Report of February 13, 2007 and the choices of Chapters by Committee Members, that the first three chapters on the submitted list be added to the Agenda of the Committee, and if time permits, the Fourth Chapter may be studied.

2. That Ms. Janice Cochrane, former Deputy Minister of Public Works and Government Services Canada be invited to appear at the same time as Mr. André Gladu, former Deputy Minister of Development Economic Canada to answer questions about Place Victoria, in Montreal.

3. That the document produced by Dr. Ned Franks for the Committee, “A protocol for the Appearance of Accounting Officers as witnesses before the Standing Committee on Public Accounts“ be made available to the Treasury Board Secretariat and to the Privy Council Office for examination and comments to the Committee before March 12, 2007 at the latest. That on Wednesday, March 21, 2007, the Protocol will be presented to the Committee for adoption as the interim protocol governing the appearance of Accounting Officers before the Standing Committee on Public Accounts, with the following motion:

That the Protocol for appearance of Accounting Officers before the Standing Committee on Public Accounts, be adopted by this Committee as the interim protocol governing the appearance of Accounting Officers before this Committee pending the adoption of a final Protocol.

4. That the Committee do examine the possibility of inviting the Treasury Officer of Accounts from Great Britain to make presentation to the Committee on his duties and responsibilities with regard to Accounting Officers and the relationship between Accounting Officers, and the United Kingdom’s Public Accounts Committee.

5. That an extra hour be added to the normal two hours meeting time of the Committee, to hear Mr. André Gladu and Ms. Janice Cochrane on Place Victoria, once the Clerk has come to an agreement on the date of appearance with the witnesses.

 

Mr. Borys Wrzesnewskyj tabled the following documents:

Copy of Memo on Non-disclosure Order;

Copy of e-mail on RCMP/PAC Meeting.

 

Mr. Borys Wrzesnewskyj gave notice of a motion.

 

At 5:34 p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

 



Georges Etoka
Clerk of the Committee

 
 
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