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MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS
 
Meeting No. 46
 
Thursday, May 10, 2007
 

The Standing Committee on Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics met at 9:01 a.m. this day, in Room 371, West Block, the Chair, Tom Wappel, presiding.

 

Members of the Committee present: Sukh Dhaliwal, Carole Lavallée, Pat Martin, Glen Douglas Pearson, Hon. Jim Peterson, Scott Reid, Bruce Stanton, David Tilson, Dave Van Kesteren, Robert Vincent, Mike Wallace and Tom Wappel.

 

Acting Members present: Hon. Carolyn Bennett for Hon. Jim Peterson, Robert Carrier for Carole Lavallée, Robert Carrier for Robert Vincent, Jean-Claude D'Amours for Sukh Dhaliwal, Jean-Claude D'Amours for Glen Douglas Pearson, Rick Dykstra for Scott Reid, Marc Lemay for Carole Lavallée, John Maloney for Sukh Dhaliwal, Massimo Pacetti for Glen Douglas Pearson and Massimo Pacetti for Hon. Jim Peterson.

 

Associate Members present: Colin Mayes.

 

In attendance: Library of Parliament: Kristen Douglas, Analyst; Nancy Holmes, Analyst.

 

Witnesses: Department of Industry: David Clarke, Co-Chair, Identity Theft Working Group, Consumer Measures Committee; Michael Jenkin, Co-Chair, Consumer Measures Committee.

 
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2) and the motion adopted by the Committee on April 24, 2007, the Committee commenced its study on Identity Theft.
 

Micheal Jenkin made a statement and, with the other witness, answered questions.

 

Carole Lavallée moved, — That the Committee proceed to other business.

 

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division: YEAS: Sukh Dhaliwal, Carole Lavallée, Pat Martin, Glen Douglas Pearson, Jim Peterson, Robert Vincent — 6; NAYS: Scott Reid, Bruce Stanton, David Tilson, Dave Van Kesteren, Mike Wallace — 5.

 

Carole Lavallée moved, — That the Committee proceed with the Notice of Motion standing in her name.

 

After debate, the question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division: YEAS: Sukh Dhaliwal, Carole Lavallée, Pat Martin, Robert Vincent — 4; NAYS: Glen Douglas Pearson, Jim Peterson, Scott Reid, Bruce Stanton, David Tilson, Dave Van Kesteren, Mike Wallace — 7.

 

Mike Wallace moved, — That the Standing Committee on Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics address the internal report by the Department of Foreign Affairs entitled Afghanistan 2006: Good Governance, Democratic Development and Human Rights. This review is to occur after the Information Commissioner completes his ruling(s) on any and all ATI requests his office has received regarding this document.

Debate arose thereon.

 

David Tilson challenged the decision of the Chair, that Mike Wallace needed unanimous consent to amend the motion.

The decision of the Chair was sustained on a recorded division:

YEAS: Sukh Dhaliwal, Carole Lavallée, Pat Martin, Glen Douglas Pearson, Jim Peterson, Scott Reid, Robert Vincent — 7; NAYS: Bruce Stanton, David Tilson, Dave Van Kesteren, Mike Wallace — 4.

 

Scott Reid moved, — That the motion be amended by replacing the words “any and all” by the word “current”.

 

The question was put on the amendment of Scott Reid and it was agreed to on the following recorded division: YEAS: Sukh Dhaliwal, Pat Martin, Glen Douglas Pearson, Jim Peterson, Scott Reid, Bruce Stanton, David Tilson, Dave Van Kesteren, Mike Wallace — 9; NAYS: Carole Lavallée, Robert Vincent — 2.

 

After debate, the question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was negatived on the following recorded division: YEAS: Scott Reid, Bruce Stanton, David Tilson, Dave Van Kesteren, Mike Wallace — 5; NAYS: Sukh Dhaliwal, Carole Lavallée, Pat Martin, Glen Douglas Pearson, Jim Peterson, Robert Vincent — 6.

 

Carole Lavallée moved, — That the Standing Committee on Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics, urgently address the internal report by the Department of Foreign Affairs entitled Afghanistan 2006: Good Governance, Democratic Development and Human Rights, consider the matter, gather evidence and report on the apparent violation of the Access to Information Act.

 

Mike Wallace moved, — That the motion be amended by deleting the word “urgently”.

 

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Mike Wallace and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 6.

 

Debate resumed on the motion

 

Scott Reid moved, — That the motion be amended by replacing the words “the apparent violation” with the words “any violations that may have occurred”.

 

The question was put on the amendment of Scott Reid and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 11; NAYS: 0.

 

Debate resumed on the motion as amended

 

Mike Wallace moved, — That the motion be amended by adding the words “by June 8, 2007” after the words “gather evidence”.

 

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Mike Wallace and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 0; NAYS: 11.

 

The question: "The decision of the Chair to adjourn the meeting was overturned by a recorded division" was put and was agreed to on the following recorded division: YEAS: Sukh Dhaliwal, Carole Lavallée, Pat Martin, Glen Douglas Pearson, Jim Peterson, Robert Vincent — 6; NAYS: Scott Reid, Bruce Stanton, David Tilson, Dave Van Kesteren, Mike Wallace — 5.

 

Mike Wallace moved, — That the Committee do now adjourn.

 

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:YEAS: Scott Reid, Bruce Stanton, David Tilson, Dave Van Kesteren, Mike Wallace — 5; NAYS: Sukh Dhaliwal, Carole Lavallée, Pat Martin, Glen Douglas Pearson, Robert Vincent — 5.

 

At 11:12 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 11:30 a.m., the sitting resumed in Room 269 West Block.

 

Debate on the motion, as amended, resumed

 

David Tilson moved, — That the Committee do now adjourn.

 

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 4; NAYS: 6.

 

The Chair ruled that David Tilson had the floor.

The Chair's ruling was challenged.

The Chair's ruling was sustained by a show of hands : YEAS: 6; NAYS: 3.

Debate resumed.

 

After debate, the question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 4.

 

It was agreed, — That the Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure meet on Monday, May 14, 2007.

 

At 2:12 p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

 



Richard Rumas
Clerk of the Committee

 
 
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