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MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS


MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 18, 1995
(Meeting No. 62)
The Evidence for this meeting is not available because it was held in camera.

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The Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade met informally at 11:10 a.m. o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 308, West Block, the Chair, Bill Graham, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Bill Graham, Walt Lastewka and Bob Mills.

Associate Members present: Maud Debien and Ovid Jackson.

In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Gerald Schmitz, Researcher.

In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order (108)(2) the Committee proceeded to convene an informal meeting with Louise Moreau, Member of the National Assembly of France for Alpes-Maritimes.

Witness: Louise Moreau, Member for Alpes-Maritimes of the National Assembly of France.

Louise Moreau made an opening statement and answered questions.

At 11:55 o'clock a.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.


TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 19, 1995
(Meeting No. 63)

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The Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade met at 10:05 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 269, West Block, for the purpose of electing a Chair, pursuant to Standing Order 106(1).

Members of the Committee present: Reg Alcock, Colleen Beaumier, Stéphane Bergeron, John English, Jesse Flis, Bill Graham, Walt Lastewka, Nic Leblanc, Lee Morrison, Bob Mills, Philippe Paré, Charlie Penson, Bob Speller and Joseph Volpe.

Other Member present: Marlene Catterall.

In attendance: From the Committees and Parliamentary Associations Directorate: Christine Fisher, Committee Clerk. From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: James Lee, Researcher.

The Clerk of the Committee presided over the election of a Chair.

On motion of Stéphane Bergeron, seconded by Joseph Volpe, it was agreed,--That Bill Graham be elected Chair of the Committee.

Accordingly, Bill Graham was declared duly elected Chair of the Committee and took the Chair.

On motion of Philippe Paré, it was agreed,--That Stéphane Bergeron be elected Vice-Chair of the Committee.

Accordingly, Stéphane Bergeron was declared duly elected Vice-Chair of the Committee.

On motion of Philippe Paré, it was agreed,--That Joseph Volpe be elected Vice-Chair of the Committee.

Accordingly, Joseph Volpe was declared duly elected Vice-Chair of the Committee.

At 10:20 o'clock a.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.


TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 26, 1995
(Meeting No. 64)
The Evidence for this meeting is not available because it was held in camera.

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The Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade met in camera at 9:16 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 209, West Block, the Vice-Chair, Joe Volpe, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Reg Alcock, Colleen Beaumier, Jesse Flis, Bill Graham, Walt Lastewka, Nic Leblanc, Bob Mills, Lee Morrison, Bernard Patry, Charlie Penson and Joseph Volpe.

Acting Members present: Herb Dhaliwal for John English; and John Loney for Bob Speller.

Other Member present: Ovid Jackson.

Associate Members present: Bill Blaikie, Gurbax Malhi and Keith Martin.

In attendance: From Warren Coutts and Associates: Warren Coutts; From the Parliamentary Centre: Phil Rourke; From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: James Lee, Researcher.

Visiting Delegation from India: Honourable Shivraj Patil, Speaker of the Lok Sabha.

In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 108(2), the Committee commenced its examination of small and medium-sized entreprises (SMEs) in the globalized economy: The Canadian experience.

The research staff, Phil Rourke from the Parliamentary Centre and Warren Coutts proceeded to provide a briefing on the Issues Paper which was prepared as background to the study.

At 9:47 o'clock a.m., the Chair, Bill Graham took the Chair.

The Chair presented the Seventh Report of the Sub-Committee on Agenda and Procedure which is as follows:

Your Sub-committee met on Tuesday, September 19, 1995 to consider the future business of the Committee and agreed to make the following recommendations:

That the Committee, with the assistance of the Canadian Council for International Co-operation, convene a forum on public understanding of foreign affairs issues on Tuesday, November 21, 1995.

That the Committee convene a luncheon meeting with Sir Nicholas Bonsor, Minister of State, Foreign Office of the United Kingdom, on Monday, September 25, 1995.

That the Committee meet with Hon. Shivraj Patil, Speaker of the Lok Sabha of India, on Tuesday, September 26, 1995.

That the Committee meet with a delegation from Africa on Tuesday, September 26, 1995.

That the Committee host a breakfast meeting for Chief Emeka Anyalku, the Secretary General of the Commonwealth, on Friday, September 29, 1995.

That the proposed timetable of Committee hearings be adopted.

That the Committee review the Departmental Outlooks on Priorities and Expenditures 1995-96 to 1997-98 for the Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade and for the Canadian International Development Agency.

It was agreed,--That the Seventh Report of the Sub-Committee on Agenda and Procedure be concurred in.

It was agreed,--That each of the Sub-Committees on Human Rights, International Trade and International Financial Institutions, be granted the power, except as the House otherwise orders, to send for persons, papers and records, to sit while the House is sitting, to sit during periods when the House stands adjourned, to print from day to day such papers and evidence as may be required and to report its conclusions and recommendations to the Committee.

At 10:00 o'clock a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 10:50 o'clock a.m. the sitting resumed in public.

In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 108(2), the Committee proceeded to convene an informal meeting with a delegation from India.

The Honourable Shivraj Patil, Speaker of the Lok Sabha, made opening remarks and answered questions.

At 11:32 o'clock a.m., the Committee adjourned until 3:30 o'clock p.m. this afternoon.


TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 26, 1995
(Meeting No. 65)
The Evidence for this meeting is not available because it was held in camera.

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The Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade met informally at 3:38 o'clock p.m. this day, in Room 371, West Block, the Acting Chairman John English, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Colleen Beaumier, John English, Nic Leblanc, Bob Mills, Lee Morrison.

Acting Member present: Beryl Gaffney for Joseph Volpe.

Other Member present: Ovid Jackson.

In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: James Lee, Researcher.

Witnesses: From the North-South Institute: Roy Culpeper, President. From Tanzania: Jonas Kipokola, Deputy Principal Secretary and Deputy Secretary to the Planning Commission of the office of the President; and Delphin Rwegasira, Director of Development Policy for the African Development Bank. From Zimbabwe: Enoch Dumbutshena, Former Chief Justice.

The witnesses made statements and answered questions.

At 4:56 o'clock p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.


THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 28, 1995
(Meeting No. 66)

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The Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade met at 9:13 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 371, West Block, the Chair, Bill Graham, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Reg Alcock, Colleen Beaumier, John English, Jesse Flis, Bill Graham, Walt Lastewka, Bob Mills, Philippe Paré, Charlie Penson and Joseph Volpe

Acting Member present: Beryl Gaffney for Bob Speller.

In attendance: From Warren Coutts and Associates: Warren Coutts; From the Parliamentary Centre: Phil Rourke, Researcher.

Witnesses: From Legacy Storage Systems: David Killins, President and CEO. From Genesis Microchip Inc.: Paul Russo, President. From ATS Aerospatial Inc.: William Friend, President. From Lee Valley Tools Ltd: Leonard Lee, President. From KSI Engineering Ltd.: Knud Simonsen, President.

In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 108(2), the Committee resumed its examination of small and medium-sized businesses (SMEs) in the globalized economy.( See Minutes of Proceedings, dated September 26, 1995, Meeting No. 64, Issue No. 28).

David Killins from Legacy Storage Systems; Paul Russo from Genesis Microchip Inc.; and William Friend, from ATS Aerospatial Inc., each made statements and answered questions.

At 10:45 o'clock a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 10:55 o'clock a.m., the sitting resumed.

Leonard Lee, from Lee Valley Tools Ltd. and Knud Simonsen of KSI Engineering Ltd., each made statements and answered questions.

At 12:10 o'clock p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.


TUESDAY, OCTOBER 3, 1995
(Meeting No. 67)

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The Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade met at 9:40 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 371, West Block, the Vice-Chair, Joseph Volpe, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Reg Alcock, John English, Jesse Flis, Walt Lastewka, Bob Mills, Lee Morrison, Bernard Patry, Charlie Penson and Joseph Volpe.

Acting Members present: Ovid Jackson for Bob Speller; Janko Peric for Bill Graham; and Yves Rocheleau for Stéphane Bergeron.

Other Member present: Jag Bhaduria.

In attendance: From Warren Coutts and Associates: Warren Coutts, Researcher; From the Parliamentary Centre: Peter Dobell.

Witnesses: From OMEID International Inc: Kamyar Peyrow, President. From Gene Barbee and Associates Ltd.: Gene Barbee, President.

In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 108(2), the Committee resumed its study of small and medium-sized businesses (SMEs) in the globalized economy: the Canadian experience. (See Minutes of Proceedings dated September 26, 1995, Meeting No. 64, Issue No. 28).

Kaymar Peyrow from OMEID International Inc. and Gene Barbee from Gene Barbee and Associates, each made statements and answered questions.

Ordered,--That the Committee convene a meeting to discuss its future business relating to the study of small and medium-sized entreprises in the globalized economy: The Canadian experience.

At 11:25 o'clock a.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.


THURSDAY, OCTOBER 5, 1995
(Meeting No. 68)

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The Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade met at 9:08 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 371, West Block, the Chair, Bill Graham, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Reg Alcock, Colleen Beaumier, John English, Jesse Flis, Bill Graham, Walt Lastewka, Philippe Paré, Bernard Patry and Charlie Penson.

Acting Member present: Ovid Jackson for Bob Speller.

Other Member present: Raymond Bonin.

In attendance: From Warren Coutts and Associates: Warren Coutts; From the Parliamentary Centre: Peter Dobell.

Witnesses: From The Canadian Chinese Business Development Inc.: Patrick Wong, Honourary Advisor. From the Baltic Business Council: Regina Pearce, Director General. From the Canadian Council for the Americas: Halina Ostrovski, National President. From the Certified General Accountants Association of Canada: Jean Précourt, Chairman and CEO; and Keith Scott, Senior Vice-President of Public Affairs and CGA International. From Business Centurions Centres Inc: Donald Hillhouse, President.

In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 108(2), the Committee resumed its study of small and medium-sized businesses (SMEs) in the globalized economy: the Canadian experience. (See Minutes of Proceedings, dated September 26, 1995, Meeting No. 64, Issue No. 28).

Patrick Wong from the Canadian Chinese Business Development Inc; Regina Pearce from the Baltic Business Council; and Halina Ostrovski from the Canadian Council for the Americas, each made statements and answered questions.

The sitting was suspended at 10:40.

The sitting resumed at 10:48.

Jean Précourt, from the Certified General Accountants Association of Canada; and Donald Hillhouse from Business Centurions Centres Inc., each made statements and answered questions.

At 12:05 o'clock p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.


THURSDAY, OCTOBER 5, 1995
(Meeting No. 69)

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The Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade met at 4:12 o'clock p.m. this day, in Room 371, West Block, the Chairman, Bill Graham, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Colleen Beaumier, Jesse Flis, Bill Graham, Walt Lastewka, Bob Mills, Lee Morrison, Philippe Paré and Joseph Volpe.

Other Member present: Andrew Telegdi.

In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Gerald Schmitz, Researcher.

Witness: From the Palestinian National Authority: Dr. Faisal Husseini, Minister, Palestinian National Authority and Chief Negotiator in the Israeli-Palestinian Peace Talks.

In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 108(2) the Committee convened an informal meeting with Dr. Faisal Husseini, Minister, Palestinian National Authority and Chief Negotiator in the Israeli-Palestinian Peace Talks.

Dr. Faisal Husseini made a statement and answered questions.

At 5:05 o'clock p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.


TUESDAY, OCTOBER 17, 1995
(Meeting No. 70)

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The Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade met at 9:25 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 701, La Promenade Building, the Vice-Chair, Joseph Volpe, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Reg Alcock, Colleen Beaumier, John English, Walt Lastewka, Bob Mills, Charlie Penson, Bob Speller and Joseph Volpe.

In attendance: From Warren Coutts and Associates: Warren Coutts; From the Parliamentary Centre: Phil Rourke and Randolph Gherson.

Witnesses: From Shore Holsteins International Inc.: Robert Shore, President. From Namtrade International: Christine Jalilvand, President. From Abegweit Seafoods Inc.: Garth Jenkins, President. From Info Globe: Jeff Carruthers, Director, Government Information Services. From Prospectus Inc.: Jan Fedorowicz, Senior Partner; Marvin Bedward, Partner. From 11 CORINFO Research and Information: Ron MacSpadyen, Director.

In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 108(2), the Committee resumed its study of small and medium-sized businesses (SMEs) in the globalized economy: the Canadian experience. (See Minutes of Proceedings, dated September 26, 1995, Meeting No. 64, Issue No. 28).

Robert Shore from Shore Holsteins International Inc.; Christine Jalilvand from Namtrade International; and Garth Jenkins from Abegweit Seafoods Inc., each made statements and answered questions.

At 10:45 o'clock a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 10:55 o'clock a.m., the sitting resumed.

Jeff Carruthers from Info Globe; Jan Fedorowicz from Prospectus Inc; and Ron MacSpadyen from 11 CORINFO Research and Information each made statements and, with Marvin Bedward from Prospectus Inc., answered questions.

At 12:06 o'clock p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.


THURSDAY, OCTOBER 19, 1995
(Meeting No. 71)

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The Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade met at 9:08 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 269, West Block, the Vice-Chair, Joseph Volpe, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Reg Alcock, Stéphane Bergeron, Jesse Flis, Walt Lastewka, Bob Mills, Charlie Penson, Bob Speller and Joseph Volpe.

Acting Members present: Dan McTeague for Bill Graham and Ovid Jackson for Bernard Patry.

In attendance: From Warren Coutts and Associates: Warren Coutts. From the Parliamentary Centre: Phil Rourke and Randolph Gherson.

Witnesses: From Caisse centrale Desjardins: Jean-Guy Langelier, President and Trung Nguyen, Vice-President. From the Royal Bank: Doug Williamson, Senior Vice-President, Business Banking. From the Hongkong Bank of Canada: Lindsay Gordon, Executive Vice-President and David Hunter, Vice-President, Trade Services. From Northstar Trade Finance Inc.: Scott Shepherd, President and CEO. From St. Stanislaus/St. Casimir's Polish Parishes Credit Union Ltd.: Stan Krol, General Manager.

In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 108(2), the Committee resumed its study of small and medium-sized businesses (SMEs) in the globalized economy: the Canadian experience. (See Minutes of Proceedings, dated September 26, 1995, Meeting No. 64, Issue No. 28).

Jean-Guy Langelier from the Caisse centrale Desjardins, Doug Williamson from the Royal Bank of Canada and Lindsay Gordon from the Hongkong Bank of Canada, each made statements and, with Trung Nguyen from Caisse centrale Desjardins and David Hunter from the Hongkong Bank of Canada, answered questions.

At 10:45 o'clock a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 10:53 o'clock a.m., the sitting resumed.

Scott Shepherd from Northstar Trade Finance Inc. and Stan Krol from St. Stanislaus/St. Casimir's Polish Parishes Credit Union Ltd., each made statements and answered questions.

At 11:45 o'clock a.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

Janice Hilchie

Clerk of the Committee


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